Kawhi Leonard Injury update

Clemenza · Post #161 » by **Clemenza** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:06 pm

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SMH, he can barely walk. Go home home and rest man, wtf?

KL2 · Post #162 » by **KL2** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 9:31 pm

He always walks with a limp. Replies saying he was using the luggage as a crutch. Team USA officials flew to LA to make sure he was healthy. The private workout was enough for them.

In these practice clips he looks good to go. Fingers crossed it carries over but that’s the concern right?

In this practice it’s AD/Bam/Leonard/Jrue/Curry as the starters.

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esqtvd · Post #163 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 9:49 pm

KL2 wrote:He always walks with a limp. Replies saying he was using the luggage as a crutch. Team USA officials flew to LA to make sure he was healthy. The private workout was enough for them.

In these practice clips he looks good to go. Fingers crossed it carries over but that’s the concern right?

In this practice it’s AD/Bam/Leonard/Jrue/Curry as the starters.

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Philly feels the same way about Embiid. After they go into the knee and start scooping out loose cartilage, there's only so much tread left on those tires.

By a doctor, In 2019.

https://www.3cbperformance.com/2019/12/10/kawhi-leonard-knee-injuries-load-management/

Kawhi is dealing with bilateral knee-related tendinopathy that has to be effectively and proactively managed by modulating activity intensity and load, aka load management. It’s a very sensitive balance and tightrope of risk/reward. That tightrope and possibly ongoing discomfort may be reflected in Kawhi currently putting up some of the worst TS%’s of his career and a stark drop-off from last season, thus far.

It behooves Kawhi and the Clippers to be smart about his knees and sit out games as needed, especially when the alternative is playing a constant game of catch-up and potentially progressing towards or worsening a degenerative tendon.

Kawhi’s already experienced what happens when he tries to push through the discomfort and that’s clearly not a lesson he’s forgotten, particularly now that he’s dealing with it on both knees. Frankly, not implementing load management at this stage would be irresponsible to his health and career.

KL2 · Post #164 » by **KL2** » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:13 am

Driving by Booker and scoring over Lebron. Please let him be healthy this season.

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donemilio21 · Post #165 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 8, 2024 3:04 am

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40516466/optimistic-kawhi-leonard-knows-injuries-part-my-journey

Leonard said that the Clippers weren't concerned about him taking part after missing the end of the season.

"Not really," he said. "They were positive about the situation. So, yeah, they wasn't too worried about it."

esqtvd · Post #166 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Jul 8, 2024 4:01 am

donemilio21 wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40516466/optimistic-kawhi-leonard-knows-injuries-part-my-journey

Leonard said that the Clippers weren't concerned about him taking part after missing the end of the season.

"Not really," he said. "They were positive about the situation. So, yeah, they wasn't too worried about it."

What choice does Ballmer have? It's like trying to train a cat. It's been that way since Day One with his private dressing room, showing up late for the team plane, and playing only when he feels well enough.

At this point, anything that lights Kawhi's basketball fire is better than not, I suppose. Me, I think he already has his 2 NBA rings, 2 Finals MVPs, $200+ million in the bank and is now guaranteed $150 million more, so he's flush.

But an Olympic medal would be nice. Otherwise, it's just a job. I mean seriously, would you drag your ass into the office at 6AM with a raging cold when it really doesn't matter one way or the other? Like any other lottery winner, if never plays another day in the NBA, I don't believe he'd care much.

KL2 · Post #167 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:55 pm

Interesting. He looks awesome and healthy. Sounds like Clippers might have stepped in? Why wait until now though? They were there when officials came to LA for the private workout. They’ve been there in Vegas even. I don’t blame them just curious as to the last minute decision.

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Captain Ballmer · Post #168 » by **Captain Ballmer** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:03 pm

KL2 wrote:Interesting. He looks awesome and healthy. Sounds like Clippers might have stepped in?

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Or he just felt pain again after workouts and now its official he has one week of expire date label after any intense basketball activities.

Clemenza · Post #169 » by **Clemenza** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:06 pm

Unfortunately, Clipper Nation can't blame PG for this one. His scapegoat and security blanket bolted for Philly, so go home, heal up, and be at least 70% to start the season

KL2 · Post #170 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:06 pm

He was doing intense workouts yesterday. Oh well. Fingers crossed he’s healthy for the season.

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LamarWho · Post #171 » by **LamarWho** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:10 pm

Vintage Kawhi. Looking impressive during the game, during practice.... Next day hopping back on that wheelchair.

KL2 · Post #172 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:21 pm

His injury history is nothing new. Not sure why the Clippers allowed him to accept, go through all the photos and media, not to mention grueling workouts and practices just to pull the plug last minute. I haven’t seen him smile and laugh this much since Toronto.

I don’t blame the Clippers. It’s the smart move. I just think the timing is questionable.

Colbinii · Post #173 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:23 pm

KL2 wrote:His injury history is nothing new. Not sure why the Clippers allowed him to accept, go through all the photos and media, not to mention grueling workouts and practices just to pull the plug last minute. I haven’t seen him smile and laugh this much since Toronto.

I don’t blame the Clippers. It’s the smart move. I just think the timing is questionable.

The timing is worse than questionable. It isn't like they just decided to do this last minute. It was clearly pre-meditated, which makes me think this was the plan all along.

KL2 · Post #174 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:42 pm

Colbinii wrote:The timing is worse than questionable. It isn't like they just decided to do this last minute. It was clearly pre-meditated, which makes me think this was the plan all along.

For what gain though? Leonard and the Clippers have a great relationship. It’s not a good media look for either side. Not that they care, I’m sure, but still a bad look.

Colbinii · Post #175 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:47 pm

KL2 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:The timing is worse than questionable. It isn't like they just decided to do this last minute. It was clearly pre-meditated, which makes me think this was the plan all along.

For what gain though? Leonard and the Clippers have a great relationship. It’s not a good media look for either side. Not that they care, I’m sure, but still a bad look.

There are a few scenario's but I am guessing something like this happened.

1) Kawhi and LAC had an agreement that any sort of discomfort or soreness would be met with withdrawing from the USA Team
2) Kawhi woke-up the day after the scrimmages and had knee soreness
3) Kawhi withdraws and LAC releases statement

KL2 · Post #176 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:59 pm

Colbinii wrote:There are a few scenario's but I am guessing something like this happened.

1) Kawhi and LAC had an agreement that any sort of discomfort or soreness would be met with withdrawing from the USA Team
2) Kawhi woke-up the day after the scrimmages and had knee soreness
3) Kawhi withdraws and LAC releases statement

All plausible.

Leonard will have this the rest of his life. Hell he’s been dealing with it since the Spurs. Longer likely. He doesn’t risk his health. He’s talked about wanting to walk and play ball with his kids after he retires. I don’t know how either side thought he could do Olympic competition just to test if his knee could go or not.

If he was feeling pain/discomfort a couple days ago he shouldn’t have continued practicing/scrimmaging.

He was off two months and after 4 days of practices/scrimmages/workouts he felt enough discomfort/pain to withdraw? Not a good outlook. Now we have to cross fingers another 3 months off will have him good to go?

They better find another scorer. Especially after letting PG go. Because it don’t sound like Leonard will play 20 games at this rate.

I really hope it’s a case he’s healthy (or as healthy as he can be) and Clippers pulled the plug but I’m suspicious of an injury that they’re hiding. Again.

Bobbymcgee · Post #177 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:21 pm

Great. Three more years of this.

jengmann3 · Post #178 » by **jengmann3** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:35 pm

Definitely not good news. It does suck for him cuz this was probably his last chance at the Olympics. I do think ideally he would've played this summer. I think it's problematic when a player has to constantly think about playing. Like it should be natural, not a measured thing. I also big picture worry about building a team around that, which I think is an issue or topic the clippers seem to be avoiding. I think kawhi is a great player but I just don't get how u plan or build around that. And then it's still a bit ambiguous and weird the headlines. Kawhis camp reached out two days ago... unbeknownst to kawhi? So it wasn't his call? Jvg and ty lue r there, couldn't they make the call?

KL2 · Post #179 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:04 pm

In my previous post I said after 4 days but it was only 2 before his camp reached out. 2 days. That’s not encouraging moving forward.

Any hope of trading him is out the door. Teams will want to see him play before taking that gamble.

Clippers are well aware of all this. Letting PG go was a no brainer from a financial stand point. But what about a team one? They have to find another scorer.

KL2 · Post #180 » by **KL2** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:11 pm

Are you kidding me? We heard Hill and Kerr along with Frank were impressed with Leonard’s private workout the week before camp started. Now we’re gearing differently. USA should have put a stop to this before it got here.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/story/2024-07-10/kawhi-leonard-withdraws-team-usa-olympic-basketball-team

People not authorized to speak publicly on the matter told The Times last week that there was concern about Leonard’s knee after Grant Hill, the managing director of Team USA; Steve Kerr, the coach of Team USA; and Lawrence Frank, the Clippers president of basketball operations, watched him work out at the Clippers’ practice facility recently.

Kerr told The Times after practice Tuesday that Leonard has been “up and down” during the practices with Team USA.

“I thought the first day he was moving well early, not so much later, and it makes perfect sense because he’s coming off that injury,” Kerr told The Times. “The tricky part here is that you have an accelerated timeline for preparation. So, that’s what we have to determine and he has to help us determine. Can with this accelerated timeline — can he be at his best a couple of weeks from now when this thing starts?”

The answer turned out to be no.

Skip has been the one on target it’s Leonard news.

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