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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#581 » by cmoss84 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 2:49 am

Even if RD is an average NBA player or worse, it will not determine if we are a terrible team in 2030. What if he busts and we are still good? There are many possible outcomes.
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Post#582 » by TimberKat » Sun Jul 7, 2024 2:58 am

Could someone explain why/how we are involved in the Klay trade? We somehow got a 2025 2nd pick and cash for it? Did we just trade some exception for picks?
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Post#583 » by wolves_89 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:06 am

TimberKat wrote:Could someone explain why/how we are involved in the Klay trade? We somehow got a 2025 2nd pick and cash for it? Did we just trade some exception for picks?


I assume it is for sign-and-trading Kyle Anderson. It likely just got folded into a bigger deal.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#584 » by Mattya » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:09 am

wolves_89 wrote:
TimberKat wrote:Could someone explain why/how we are involved in the Klay trade? We somehow got a 2025 2nd pick and cash for it? Did we just trade some exception for picks?


I assume it is for sign-and-trading Kyle Anderson. It just got folded into a bigger deal.


Maybe we are getting one of the second rounders from the Klay trade?
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#585 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:14 am

With these free agent deals I'm not going to believe anything until the league approves them and the ink is dried on everything.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#586 » by Klomp » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:43 am

Mattya wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
TimberKat wrote:Could someone explain why/how we are involved in the Klay trade? We somehow got a 2025 2nd pick and cash for it? Did we just trade some exception for picks?


I assume it is for sign-and-trading Kyle Anderson. It just got folded into a bigger deal.


Maybe we are getting one of the second rounders from the Klay trade?

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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#587 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:51 am

Klomp wrote:
Mattya wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
I assume it is for sign-and-trading Kyle Anderson. It just got folded into a bigger deal.


Maybe we are getting one of the second rounders from the Klay trade?

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So we're one of the six? Did we get anything more than we heard before.
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Post#588 » by TimberKat » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:08 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Maybe we are getting one of the second rounders from the Klay trade?

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So we're one of the six? Did we get anything more than we heard before.

I like to know how/why it involve 6 teams. It's like a trade that a RealGM user dream up :D
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#589 » by shrink » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:00 am

wolves_89 wrote:
TimberKat wrote:Could someone explain why/how we are involved in the Klay trade? We somehow got a 2025 2nd pick and cash for it? Did we just trade some exception for picks?

I assume it is for sign-and-trading Kyle Anderson. It likely just got folded into a bigger deal.

Right. Basically, the Warriors created outgoing salary by sending out Klay, and they are taking in Kyle Anderson (and Buddy Hield) with that salary. We have heard all these trades being down with newly created TPE’s, but if they do the transactions simultaneously, they may be avoiding some of the new restrictions for using TPE’s.

This tweet seems to add a 2025 2nd and cash in addition to the the 2031 2nd swap. But the way they simplified it, we don’t know if MIn sent out one of their own future 2nds elsewhere to get someone else’s 2025 2nd. I’m waiting to see the whole trade listed somewhere.
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Post#590 » by minimus » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:33 am

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Post#591 » by Saltine » Sun Jul 7, 2024 10:03 am

We got this out of it;
Timberwolves acquire a 2025 second-round pick, a 2031 second-round pick swap (from Warriors), and cash (from Warriors).

There’s at least one minor adjustment from the original agreements. Because the Warriors benefit most from turning multiple deals into a single trade (they can use Thompson’s outgoing salary to salary-match for both Anderson and Hield, allowing them to give the two players a higher combined salary than what Thompson’s will make), they’re no longer receiving a second-round pick from the Hornets. It appears that pick is being rerouted to the Wolves, who needed to send or receive an asset from another team besides Golden State.

We don’t yet know the exact details of the 2025 second-rounders being acquired by Dallas and Minnesota, but it looks like one of them is the 2025 Nuggets pick that Charlotte initially agreed to acquire as part of the Jackson trade and one of them is the 2025 Sixers pick that Charlotte already controlled. The Hornets were always going to send out two second-round picks for Green — they’re just going to Dallas and Minnesota now, instead of Dallas and Golden State.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/klay-thompson-sign-and-trade-completed-as-six-team-deal.html

and this from trading down in the second;
Timberwolves acquire a future second-round pick (from Grizzlies) and cash ($1MM; from Raptors).
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#592 » by winforlose » Sun Jul 7, 2024 12:37 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Maybe we are getting one of the second rounders from the Klay trade?

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So we're one of the six? Did we get anything more than we heard before.


My understanding is yes. I knew about the pick swap, but I didn’t know we got a 2nd in 2025.

Any idea whose it is?
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#593 » by jpatrick » Sun Jul 7, 2024 12:52 pm

minimus wrote:
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My top5 favorite wolves player

P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?


Gotta admit, this surprises me. I just assumed he’d be back as the emergency point guard. Maybe with Dilly being so tiny, we just wanted size with that last guard spot.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#594 » by Baseline81 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 1:11 pm

minimus wrote:
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My top5 favorite wolves player

P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?

Seriously? How long have you been a fan of this team?

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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#595 » by winforlose » Sun Jul 7, 2024 1:58 pm

minimus wrote:
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My top5 favorite wolves player

P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?


Dozier isn’t a PG. He has never been a PG. At best he is a SG who fills in at PG, at worse he is SG who should be a SF but for his size.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#596 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 2:18 pm

winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:
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My top5 favorite wolves player

P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?


Dozier isn’t a PG. He has never been a PG. At best he is a SG who fills in at PG, at worse he is SG who should be a SF but for his size.

Dozier has never been a pure/true/traditional PG. I seem to recall in the dark recesses of my mind him being a combo guard. If so he can be counted as PG Depth.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#597 » by shrink » Sun Jul 7, 2024 3:55 pm

Timberwolves acquire a 2025 second-round pick, a 2031 second-round pick swap (from Warriors), and cash (from Warriors)….

It appears that pick is being rerouted to the Wolves, who needed to send or receive an asset from another team besides Golden State.

For anyone wondering about the rule that this is referring to, the CBA requires that in any three-team (or larger) trade, that each team must “touch” at least two other teams. What the rule is meant to prevent is monstrously long individual deals where teams keep getting stuck on the end of deals, which would have been the case here for MIN. Constructing this six-team deal under that rule is pretty impressive.

And many know this already, but a deal isn’t official until the NBA front office passes it (which usually has occurred when the team announces it). Here, the SloMo trade was agreed to by GSW and MIN a few days earlier, but before it was official, teams look around to see if they can cobble other things together to get more value out of it before they send it to the NBA to be accepted.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#598 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:06 pm

winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:
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My top5 favorite wolves player

P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?


Dozier isn’t a PG. He has never been a PG. At best he is a SG who fills in at PG, at worse he is SG who should be a SF but for his size.


He played PG for the Celtics G League team. Did quite well.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#599 » by shrink » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:09 pm

Does the lack of signing a vet back up PG signal that Ant will be asked to focus his development on having the ball in his hands?
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#600 » by TimberKat » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:28 pm

shrink wrote:Does the lack of signing a vet back up PG signal that Ant will be asked to focus his development on having the ball in his hands?

It is amazing how good and raw Ant still is. He definitely needs to improve decision making and when/how to pass the ball and how to leverage other players. Other areas of improvement are more efficient at mid range and team defense. I really wanted to see him handle the ball less (take it slow in development) but yes, no additional PG means he needs to be better as a facilitator.

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