Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[76ciology]

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Sounds like Pels would have tried to extract a hefty price had we struck out on PG13. At this point, what teams could even make that financial commitment?

Pelicans: We don't want to give this player a max contract... But we want a team to blow us away in a trade like they're trading for an elite player worthy of a max contract.

Kind of glad now that we signed PG otherwise Morey would have likely sold the farm for Ingram.

According to Windy, the Hawks had the option to trade Dejounte Murray for Brandon Ingram but chose to acquire Dyson Daniels and draft picks instead. It appears that Ingram isn't receiving offers because teams view him not as a player worth $37M per year, but rather as someone with a 4-year, $200M contract.

[Doramas]

Regarding GB talking down the Sixers, I'm okay with them underrating us. I'd rather exceed expectations than convince everyone we're the best team in the league and then face their hot takes again if we start slow.

I’d rather be the hunter than the hunted.

Who is GB? Sorry, but I don't know who you're talking about

General Board

Thank you for the clarification.

[Black Mage]

We need a PF badly

I wouldn’t say badly.

Jayson Tatum played 74 regular-season games for the Celtics, spending 72% of his time at power forward. In the playoffs, he played every game and spent 92% of his time at power forward. The Celtics dominated in both the regular season and the playoffs.

Paul George has similar size to Al Horford, suggesting that we might already be playing a double-big lineup with him at power forward. And we can play small or fast with Kelly Oubre or Caleb Martin at power forward. If this approach doesn’t work, we can use the KJ Martin contract and picks to acquire a PF during the season. For now, I think we’re fine.

Last year we were blowing teams out so badly Joel got to sit most 4th quarters. There's no reason to believe we won't be doing the same this year given the starting 5 improvements. For that reason, I suspect part of Morey/Nurse's plan is to give real minutes to guys like Bona, McCain and Council and see if we can grow our depth internally.

If not, Morey has KJ's balloon to float over to another team and pickup a player to plug whatever hole becomes apparent by the trade deadline.

[Black Mage]

Pelicans: We don't want to give this player a max contract... But we want a team to blow us away in a trade like they're trading for an elite player worthy of a max contract.

Kind of glad now that we signed PG otherwise Morey would have likely sold the farm for Ingram.

According to Windy, the Hawks had the option to trade Dejounte Murray for Brandon Ingram but chose to acquire Dyson Daniels and draft picks instead. It appears that Ingram isn't receiving offers because teams view him not as a player worth $37M per year, but rather as someone with a 4-year, $200M contract.

Atlanta is rebuilding. If they could have found a taker for Trae they probably would have done a deal for him too. They are at least 2-3 years from competing; by that point Ingram is already half way through his next max deal and 29 yrs old. Nance is going to be flipped by the deadline most likely.

[youngcrev]

Assuming KJ gets his balloon payment for a mid season trade, I'd be good with going into the season with him as the backup 4. I think he'd work a little better with this roster playing next to PG at forward.

Morris is whatever. I don't get mad at minimum signings. He's just so damn slow now and is already lacking height/length for the position. But hey, he's tough and can make a shot.

[Arsenal]

Spencer Dinwiddie would be a fantastic get at this point for vet min. We need another PG and he has the size to play with Maxey or McCain. I'd take him over Lowry for that reason, but not opposed to adding both with 2 of our 3 remaining spots. The last spot needs to be a PF of course.

[Arsenal]

Assuming KJ gets his balloon payment for a mid season trade, I'd be good with going into the season with him as the backup 4. I think he'd work a little better with this roster playing next to PG at forward.

Morris is whatever. I don't get mad at minimum signings. He's just so damn slow now and is already lacking height/length for the position. But hey, he's tough and can make a shot.

KJ will be a backup 4 if we sign him so he'll get his chance. Still need a vet option IMO like Morris or Covington for depth.

Morris was getting playoff mins for CLE and Nurse found him useful with us. I'm sure he could help situationally again.

RoCo would be even better but who knows what's up with that mystery injury.

[kriss73]

23/24 -> 24/25

Embiid -> Embiid
Harris -> PG8
Oubre -> Oubre
Maxey -> Maxey
Melton -> Martin

Reed -> Drummond
Batum -> XXX
Lowry -> XXX
Hield ->Gordon
Payne ->McCain

Bamba -> Bona
KJ Martin -> KJ Martin
Council IV -> Coucil V (I expect in improvement in year 2 LOL)
Dowtin -> XXX
Cov -> XXX


Assuming Lowry returns, we need to find a replacement for Batum (no easy task)

Cov and Dowtin replacements will be end-of-the-roster guys

[Kobblehead]

Just get a veteran F that doesn't care about playing time.

Danilo Gallinari
Thad Young
a Morris twin
Bob Covington

[76ciology]

Spencer Dinwiddie would be a fantastic get at this point for vet min. We need another PG and he has the size to play with Maxey or McCain. I'd take him over Lowry for that reason, but not opposed to adding both with 2 of our 3 remaining spots. The last spot needs to be a PF of course.

How will you feel if its Westbrook?

Westbrook and PG played well last season until Harden arrived. Both are also good friend

[Arsenal]

Spencer Dinwiddie would be a fantastic get at this point for vet min. We need another PG and he has the size to play with Maxey or McCain. I'd take him over Lowry for that reason, but not opposed to adding both with 2 of our 3 remaining spots. The last spot needs to be a PF of course.

How will you feel if its Westbrook?

Westbrook and PG played well last season until Harden arrived. Both are also good friend

If Nurse and Morey are down then so am I. But I don't think it's an option since it looks like his deal is more than vet min:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6141/russell-westbrook/contract/cap

[youngcrev]

Assuming KJ gets his balloon payment for a mid season trade, I'd be good with going into the season with him as the backup 4. I think he'd work a little better with this roster playing next to PG at forward.

Morris is whatever. I don't get mad at minimum signings. He's just so damn slow now and is already lacking height/length for the position. But hey, he's tough and can make a shot.

KJ will be a backup 4 if we sign him so he'll get his chance. Still need a vet option IMO like Morris or Covington for depth.

Morris was getting playoff mins for CLE and Nurse found him useful with us. I'm sure he could help situationally again.

RoCo would be even better but who knows what's up with that mystery injury.

I'd love Roco back if he can actually play.

Gordon Hayward feels like the ideal guy out there for us that could potentially play for a minimum and help fill that Batum void. I'm worried he'll end up on the Celtics, but we could clearly offer him a larger role.

Does Trent Jr end up being this year's Oubre on an unexpected minimum? If so, I think there's a reasonable chance he would start on this roster as currently constructed.

[youngcrev]

Spencer Dinwiddie would be a fantastic get at this point for vet min. We need another PG and he has the size to play with Maxey or McCain. I'd take him over Lowry for that reason, but not opposed to adding both with 2 of our 3 remaining spots. The last spot needs to be a PF of course.

How will you feel if its Westbrook?

Westbrook and PG played well last season until Harden arrived. Both are also good friend

Yuck? High usage, low efficiency, no defense, too much ego. No thanks.

[zaz102]

Can Paul re-sign for the min? Probably not happening, but curious

[youngcrev]

Can Paul re-sign for the min? Probably not happening, but curious

Yeah

[Arsenal]

Assuming KJ gets his balloon payment for a mid season trade, I'd be good with going into the season with him as the backup 4. I think he'd work a little better with this roster playing next to PG at forward.

Morris is whatever. I don't get mad at minimum signings. He's just so damn slow now and is already lacking height/length for the position. But hey, he's tough and can make a shot.

KJ will be a backup 4 if we sign him so he'll get his chance. Still need a vet option IMO like Morris or Covington for depth.

Morris was getting playoff mins for CLE and Nurse found him useful with us. I'm sure he could help situationally again.

RoCo would be even better but who knows what's up with that mystery injury.

I'd love Roco back if he can actually play.

Gordon Hayward feels like the ideal guy out there for us that could potentially play for a minimum and help fill that Batum void. I'm worried he'll end up on the Celtics, but we could clearly offer him a larger role.

Does Trent Jr end up being this year's Oubre on an unexpected minimum? If so, I think there's a reasonable chance he would start on this roster as currently constructed.

Trent would be great for vet min if he and Nurse can get over their beef. He's a flawed player but we have enough around him where his shooting provides value, and of course the price is right. Still only 25 so potentially could improve like Oubre did with us.

[Negrodamus]

I wonder if Saddiq Bey can be convinced of a one year deal. If he's able to return by December (8 months), then I think we could ramp him up by the end of the year.

If we're just going to use the spot for someone like RoCo or Morris, then we should at least try to hit a home run with the pick.

[mjkvol]

Regarding GB talking down the Sixers, I'm okay with them underrating us. I'd rather exceed expectations than convince everyone we're the best team in the league and then face their hot takes again if we start slow.

I’d rather be the hunter than the hunted.

Who is GB? Sorry, but I don't know who you're talking about

Trust me, you're much better off not knowing.

[mjkvol]

Yeah man, I realize all that. I'm saying that even though that is probably the plan, I'm not putting it past him to actually be able to contribute to this team.

If the Sixers had plans to make KJ a contributing player, they would just keep him at his cap number. Signing him to a crazy balloon contract with unguaranteed years 2 and 3 is nice for him, as he'll likely never see that kind of money for one year, and good for the franchise to use as an expiring trade chip. Win-win.

I like KJ, but if he could even shoot a little bit I'd be a lot more willing to keep him as a depth piece.

[ProcessDoctor]

I think one of Jarrace Walker or Obi Toppin will be available at the deadline. They may look to get another big piece using one of them, but maybe we can get in as a 3rd team.

Other potential KJ balloon deadline targets:
DFS
Vanderbilt
Portis
G Williams (gets punk'd a lot, everyone hates him)
Avdija (a man can dream)
Eason