Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[mjkvol]

Spencer Dinwiddie would be a fantastic get at this point for vet min. We need another PG and he has the size to play with Maxey or McCain. I'd take him over Lowry for that reason, but not opposed to adding both with 2 of our 3 remaining spots. The last spot needs to be a PF of course.

Tyus Jones wouldn't be a terrible backup PG option, either.

[mjkvol]

Assuming KJ gets his balloon payment for a mid season trade, I'd be good with going into the season with him as the backup 4. I think he'd work a little better with this roster playing next to PG at forward.

Morris is whatever. I don't get mad at minimum signings. He's just so damn slow now and is already lacking height/length for the position. But hey, he's tough and can make a shot.

KJ will be a backup 4 if we sign him so he'll get his chance. Still need a vet option IMO like Morris or Covington for depth.

Morris was getting playoff mins for CLE and Nurse found him useful with us. I'm sure he could help situationally again.

RoCo would be even better but who knows what's up with that mystery injury.

I'd love Roco back if he can actually play.

Gordon Hayward feels like the ideal guy out there for us that could potentially play for a minimum and help fill that Batum void. I'm worried he'll end up on the Celtics, but we could clearly offer him a larger role.

Does Trent Jr end up being this year's Oubre on an unexpected minimum? If so, I think there's a reasonable chance he would start on this roster as currently constructed.

I'd take Trent and Hayward in a heartbeat as our two vet min moves. Almost seems too good to be true.

[Arsenal]

Yeah man, I realize all that. I'm saying that even though that is probably the plan, I'm not putting it past him to actually be able to contribute to this team.

If the Sixers had plans to make KJ a contributing player, they would just keep him at his cap number. Signing him to a crazy balloon contract with unguaranteed years 2 and 3 is nice for him, as he'll likely never see that kind of money for one year, and good for the franchise to use as an expiring trade chip. Win-win.

I like KJ, but if he could even shoot a little bit I'd be a lot more willing to keep him as a depth piece.

The balloon contract provides optionality whether KJ is in the future plans or not. If he is in the plans and he plays well, then they can keep him and restructure his contract next summer since everything after this upcoming season will not be guaranteed.

Or if a good trade option presents itself, they can trade him by the deadline.

Optionality is the key for guys like Morey and Hinkie.

[Arsenal]

I'd kick the tires on Talen Horton-Tucker. He has been steadily improving and is only 23. Looks like he provides everything we need except shooting, but he's over 80% at the line so perhaps there's potential there.

Aside from a bad 2PT percenage his numbers look great. The key is if they can coach him out of taking bad shots.

[ProcessDoctor]

Haywood Highsmith still out there. The longer he goes without a contract the better. Lowry, Highsmith, Covington, balloon KJ.

[ckchen]

I wonder if Saddiq Bey can be convinced of a one year deal. If he's able to return by December (8 months), then I think we could ramp him up by the end of the year.

If we're just going to use the spot for someone like RoCo or Morris, then we should at least try to hit a home run with the pick.

Didn't he tear his ACL? Normal recovery time is like a year. I don't think the Sixers would have any interest in wasting a roster spot on someone who just sits for likely 50-75% of the season at best. He likely won't even be playing until after the All-star break/trade deadline and then you have to figure out mid/late season how to integrate him into the team. I just don't see it. I like him as a player, but I can't imagine would sign him just to see if maybe he can play at a high level coming off major injury late in the season.

[Black Mage]

Just get a veteran F that doesn't care about playing time.

Danilo Gallinari
Thad Young
a Morris twin
Bob Covington

Are you going to push them around in a wheelchair on the court? Outside of Morris, all of those guys are freaking cooked and plod like a dinosaur.

[mithrandir17]

Read on Twitter

The KJ Martin baloon contract will not be happening. They had to renounce his cap hold to give every last dollar remaining to Caleb Martin.

[ckchen]

Haywood Highsmith still out there. The longer he goes without a contract the better. Lowry, Highsmith, Covington, balloon KJ.

Better for who? Heat have already made it known they want him back and he wants to go back. If all we can offer is the minimum, he's almost definitely just going to stay there. They were trying to make a play for DeRozan, but that's gone, I think he's more than likely just going back there, and I imagine since they have his rights, they can actually give him at least a modest bump over the minimum for sure, since they still have room under the 2nd apron.

[Black Mage]

Looks like Martin deal was 4 for 35, not 32. Might explain KJ's vanishing balloon deal.

[GoSixersBro]

I'd kick the tires on Talen Horton-Tucker. He has been steadily improving and is only 23. Looks like he provides everything we need except shooting, but he's over 80% at the line so perhaps there's potential there.

Aside from a bad 2PT percenage his numbers look great. The key is if they can coach him out of taking bad shots.

Would've bet he was at least 26. Dude not only looks/is built like an Unc but feels like he's been in the league forever.

[ProcessDoctor]

Haywood Highsmith still out there. The longer he goes without a contract the better. Lowry, Highsmith, Covington, balloon KJ.

Better for who? Heat have already made it known they want him back and he wants to go back. If all we can offer is the minimum, he's almost definitely just going to stay there. They were trying to make a play for DeRozan, but that's gone, I think he's more than likely just going back there, and I imagine since they have his rights, they can actually give him at least a modest bump over the minimum for sure, since they still have room under the 2nd apron.

Are we sure he's the last contract they want to add though? You never know with the heat. I still can't believe that team's roster is so close to the 2nd apron. A few horrible contracts in there.

[76ciology]

Regarding GB talking down the Sixers, I'm okay with them underrating us. I'd rather exceed expectations than convince everyone we're the best team in the league and then face their hot takes again if we start slow.

I’d rather be the hunter than the hunted.

Who is GB? Sorry, but I don't know who you're talking about

Trust me, you're much better off not knowing.

It wasn’t that of a cesspool before.

[PhillyFan11]

I wonder if Saddiq Bey can be convinced of a one year deal. If he's able to return by December (8 months), then I think we could ramp him up by the end of the year.

If we're just going to use the spot for someone like RoCo or Morris, then we should at least try to hit a home run with the pick.

Didn't he tear his ACL? Normal recovery time is like a year. I don't think the Sixers would have any interest in wasting a roster spot on someone who just sits for likely 50-75% of the season at best. He likely won't even be playing until after the All-star break/trade deadline and then you have to figure out mid/late season how to integrate him into the team. I just don't see it. I like him as a player, but I can't imagine would sign him just to see if maybe he can play at a high level coming off major injury late in the season.

Surgery for his torn ACL was March 28th. A optimistic/speedy recovery puts him on track for a late January return. In the best case scenario that’s not the worst timeline. He could be started off slow and play his way into the rotation by the beginning of April. Fully integrated to the team by the time the playoffs start.

But of course that’s best case scenario and he might not be able to fully return until April and its essentially too late.

10 month recovery from an ACL isn’t crazy for an NFL player, but I feel like it doesn’t happen enough in the NBA to have a great feel for it.

[ProcessDoctor]

Is Chuma Okeke a bust? Former 16th overall pick still out there unsigned.

Same with Usman Garuba. 21st overall in the same draft.

[76ciology]

I'd kick the tires on Talen Horton-Tucker. He has been steadily improving and is only 23. Looks like he provides everything we need except shooting, but he's over 80% at the line so perhaps there's potential there.

Aside from a bad 2PT percenage his numbers look great. The key is if they can coach him out of taking bad shots.

Would've bet he was at least 26. Dude not only looks/is built like an Unc but feels like he's been in the league forever.

THT is Lakers and LeBron’s one of the more recent pump and dump project.

[zaz102]

Read on Twitter

The KJ Martin baloon contract will not be happening. They had to renounce his cap hold to give every last dollar remaining to Caleb Martin.

Hmm. I wonder why? Seemed like a solid plan to add a meaningful player.

[FireMorey]

I don't know if Keith's info is official. No one else has reported it yet. We'll see.

[mithrandir17]

Read on Twitter

The KJ Martin baloon contract will not be happening. They had to renounce his cap hold to give every last dollar remaining to Caleb Martin.

Hmm. I wonder why? Seemed like a solid plan to add a meaningful player.

Maybe Caleb's camp pushed for that last $800k to $900k. Over the span of 4 years that's still around 3M-4M+ in total.

[jstross]

Where are you seeing the new contract numbers on Martin?

Looks like Martin deal was 4 for 35, not 32. Might explain KJ's vanishing balloon deal.