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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade 

Post#1941 » by Riot Randolph » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:19 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:It’s gonna be interesting to see Brunson actually extends this summer or not. That could alleviate some of the worst cap situation and allow us to bring everyone back. The cap and aprons are rising like 10% a year. As long as we don’t blow past the 2nd apron the cap could just end up catching us and solving itself.

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Post#1942 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:23 pm

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It just takes away flexibility and puts us in bad situations where like let’s say we want to cut salary, teams can use that penalty as leverage to take more picks from us. I think how Boston approaches the next two offseasons will tell us a lot.



True, my only thing is that I don’t think that’s enough justification to trade someone of Randle’s caliber. Just can’t wrap my head around that


Only 1 player comes to mind that has similar accolades. That player would most likely have to have their team be super disappointing going into the deadline and he would have to be vocal about being unhappy. A 3 team deal would need to take place to make it work salary / player wise, but Devin Booker is the name. Not sure we have all what Phoenix would want (Ju, Duece, Precious, protected 1st and 2nds would more than likely need involved) but the lingering interest by Leon in the past just seems to bring him to mind.


Even if the suns are disappointing, and if he demands a trade:

Why would the suns trade him here for Julius Randle and Josh hart when they could easily get better packages for him

What kind of fit would he be here when we already have Mikal and Donte

And would the teams even be able to get a deal that works with all the apron stuff

All these scenarios seem highly unlikely. Meanwhile we can just lock in our all star PF
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Post#1944 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:41 pm

I can not see us downgrading the team because of money issues.

I can see us trading Randle to upgrade the team before hitting the second apron.

But I think it's not very likely now. The target would have to be a star center (we lack a reliable 5) who would be an upgrade over Randle.

Like trading in mid-season Randle + Mitch + Precious (assuming he re-signs) + Deuce for Towns. The results are unknown and the cost is very high.
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Post#1946 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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Chanel Bomber wrote:Because reaching the second apron doesn't only affect Dolan's pockets.

It also affects our ability to build the roster.



That’s my point tho, the roster is pretty much built already.



Brunson and Randle have extensions due.


Their intentions towards Randle is the only question mark left.

If Brunson agrees to an early extension that would set the tone for what Randle can expect.
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Post#1947 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:56 pm

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1st round picks end up getting frozen and then eventually moved to the end of the 1st round.


That's not very logical.

Problem: If we over the second apron, we can not upgrade the team anymore (cant trade picks, and hard to make trades).

Solution: let's downgrade the team now cutting salaries!

My opinion is that the best version of this team will likely feature Mikal and OG at the forward spots. With everyone healthy, I think Randle's best role on this team will be to be a 6th man.

So I think the Knicks should consider trading Randle for other assets or to strengthen another position so that they avoid 1. Losing him for nothing 2. Giving him a big extension as he enters his 30s that may take us over the apron.

I'm not suggesting we should just get rid of Randle. I'm saying the FO should consider getting value back early.

And an argument can be made that contending teams may consider that the penalties that come with hitting the second apron are worth it. But if Randle's contract proves to be a bad one, it will be nearly impossible for us to get out of it.


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Post#1948 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:13 pm

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:It’s gonna be interesting to see Brunson actually extends this summer or not. That could alleviate some of the worst cap situation and allow us to bring everyone back. The cap and aprons are rising like 10% a year. As long as we don’t blow past the 2nd apron the cap could just end up catching us and solving itself.

Cap increases MAXIMUM 10% yty


Correct and I think the severe tax penalties happen after 3 seasons. So hopefully that 30% increase in those many years would get us out of the 2nd apron.
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Post#1949 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:26 pm

Any new rumors? Was drunk all weekend and haven't paid attention. Might go out again tonight.
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Post#1950 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:30 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:Any new rumors? Was drunk all weekend and haven't paid attention. Might go out again tonight.


Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend
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Post#1951 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:32 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Any new rumors? Was drunk all weekend and haven't paid attention. Might go out again tonight.


Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend


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Post#1952 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:36 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Any new rumors? Was drunk all weekend and haven't paid attention. Might go out again tonight.


Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend


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Post#1953 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:41 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend


Went glamping out on the North Fork in Greenport for the holiday. 4 days of drunken debauchery and fireworks!


Don't forget to douche the sand out of your ass crack before going to work otherwise the phrase back to the grind will have a whole new meaning


I'm off for another week most likely. Being self employed has its benefits I think I'll wash my ass at some point before going back to work. :lol:
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Post#1954 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:43 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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Went glamping out on the North Fork in Greenport for the holiday. 4 days of drunken debauchery and fireworks!


Don't forget to douche the sand out of your ass crack before going to work otherwise the phrase back to the grind will have a whole new meaning


I'm off for another week most likely. Being self employed has its benefits I think I'll wash my ass at some point before going back to work. :lol:


Cool. Good practice is to do that at least once a week whether you need it or not
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Post#1955 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:46 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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Don't forget to douche the sand out of your ass crack before going to work otherwise the phrase back to the grind will have a whole new meaning


I'm off for another week most likely. Being self employed has its benefits I think I'll wash my ass at some point before going back to work. :lol:


Cool. Good practice is to do that at least once a week whether you need it or not


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Post#1956 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:53 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
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I'm off for another week most likely. Being self employed has its benefits I think I'll wash my ass at some point before going back to work. :lol:


Cool. Good practice is to do that at least once a week whether you need it or not


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Post#1957 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:54 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Any new rumors? Was drunk all weekend and haven't paid attention. Might go out again tonight.


Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend


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Post#1958 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:55 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
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Clyde_Style wrote:
Yes, there is some buzz in the life sciences community that a new study proves staying drunk every weekend increases your odds of staying drunk every weekend


Went glamping out on the North Fork in Greenport for the holiday. 4 days of drunken debauchery and fireworks!

Glamping = soft skinned hotel


They probably hired a glamping aide to set up an IV drip for their Laphroig
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Post#1959 » by sol537 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:00 pm

One route could be to try to turn Randle into you ger, cheaper pieces with high upsides. For example, Randle to HOU for Smith and Eason (and one of their expiring contracts. Those two are cost controlled for several seasons and Smith can play some small ball 5 with a 5-out offense. Our scouts would have to believe in the fit and upside of those two guys in NY
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Post#1960 » by N Y K » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:12 pm

sol537 wrote:One route could be to try to turn Randle into you ger, cheaper pieces with high upsides. For example, Randle to HOU for Smith and Eason (and one of their expiring contracts. Those two are cost controlled for several seasons and Smith can play some small ball 5 with a 5-out offense. Our scouts would have to believe in the fit and upside of those two guys in NY

If this trade ever happened, I’d be sad because of all of the Tari Eason rookie cards I’ve sold, but happy because of all the Jabari Smith Jr rookie cards I’ve hoarded :lol:

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