Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[NearingZero]

With these new trading rules, I bet at some point in the near future we're going to see more teams going to a kind of standardized salary scale, where it's easier to match salaries at 100% so neither team gets hard capped because of a trade.

Because the idea of taking a dollar more back in a trade hard capping you at the 1st apron is ridiculous.

This is a great point. It's basically impossible now for 2 teams to make a trade without one of them getting hard-capped.

It wouldn't exactly be a simple thing to work out though because of year-to-year salary increases.

[sixers hoops]

With these new trading rules, I bet at some point in the near future we're going to see more teams going to a kind of standardized salary scale, where it's easier to match salaries at 100% so neither team gets hard capped because of a trade.

Because the idea of taking a dollar more back in a trade hard capping you at the 1st apron is ridiculous.

This is a great point. It's basically impossible now for 2 teams to make a trade without one of them getting hard-capped.

The CBA should have prob made it so you couldn’t take back more than 5% or something. It would seem more practical.

[youngcrev]

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The way that is worded, wouldn't shock me if the Sixers tried to get him on the minimum, though he probably gets a better offer.

My knee jerk assumption would be that throw that amount at him to retain him, but they might want some breathing room for a trade. Hard to imagine them just wanting to run that team back, right? I have a hard time reconciling their playoff success over the Jimmy era with their regular season mediocrity.

[GoSixersBro]

Why wouldn't you want him (aside from the cap complexity)? He'd arguably be our 4th best player and fills a need at PF both positionally and fit-wise.

If that was even remotely true we could pencil in the 2025 second round exit today.

You think Oubre and Martin are better than him I presume? I don't think the league agrees with that evaluation. He's a more limited offensive player, but is better at the skills that are more valued when it comes to being a role player (catch and shoot 3s and defense)

Maybe if he was actually still a top threat from three you could make that argument, but no, he's not helping this team in a playoff series more than Oubre. I don't even care for comparing the two, but my point is we are literally **** if he's our consensus 4th best player.

[NYSixersFan]

I'm not wasting our few remaining assets to trade for DFS, That is complete lunacy.

Give me someone like Tari Eason. Give me someone over 6 foot 7 who can rebound. Give me a Guard who can create and pass.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m still intrigued by Chuma Okeke as a vet min addition. His confidence & jumper have fallen off since his rookie year but he’s a good rebounder & defender. A worthy reclamation project if we don’t have better options.

[eyeatoma]

Let me ask again...Why the F do we need DFS?

Starting PF?

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[eyeatoma]

YossiGozlan said that Cam Johnson or Kuzma would be possible at the deadline if you paired KJ with Caleb but I like the defense of Caleb.

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[NYSixersFan]

Let me ask again...Why the F do we need DFS?

Starting PF?

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Nah. Can we get a guy who can actually grab rebounds?

[zaz102]

Besides the fact that it doesn't make much logical sense from what I think I understand about the cap rules, I don't think I would blow my last move on DFS unless he was free and even then I would have to think about it.

They have the luxury of not being in a rush. Unless you feel there's a really good deal for what you're looking for, wait until we get closer to the trade deadline.

[SixthStreet]

Assuming health, they should be stacking wins at a 60 win pace to the deadline. I don't think there's much urgency to make that last addition (aside from vet mins) until the deadline.

[NearingZero]

Besides the fact that it doesn't make much logical sense from what I think I understand about the cap rules, I don't think I would blow my last move on DFS unless he was free and even then I would have to think about it.

They have the luxury of not being in a rush. Unless you feel there's a really good deal for what you're looking for, wait until we get closer to the trade deadline.

I'd probably do it now if his salary was $4-5M less and the Nets accepted the 2026 OKC 1st. Having good depth right from the start of the season would be very beneficial, IMO.

[Sixerscan]

I don't see how the DFS trade would work until January so it doesn't seem worth debating. They wouldn't be blowing all of their assets in that trade though.

It'd be nice to make whatever trade you're gonna make now so you have the guy in the building, who knows who will be available during the year. Doesn't seem realistic though. At least it will probably make the team more attractive to minimum guys who would have a clear path to minutes, like Oubre last year.

[ProcessDoctor]

Besides the fact that it doesn't make much logical sense from what I think I understand about the cap rules, I don't think I would blow my last move on DFS unless he was free and even then I would have to think about it.

They have the luxury of not being in a rush. Unless you feel there's a really good deal for what you're looking for, wait until we get closer to the trade deadline.

I think it will be tough to find a better "last" move (assuming we are acquiring one player, are not aggregating players in said trade, and want to stay under the 2nd apron). You're looking at guys about $18ish mil or less (depending on our final vet min signings) who are made available by their teams. With all this in mind, it's easy to see why DFS's name is being brought up.

[NearingZero]

Besides the fact that it doesn't make much logical sense from what I think I understand about the cap rules, I don't think I would blow my last move on DFS unless he was free and even then I would have to think about it.

They have the luxury of not being in a rush. Unless you feel there's a really good deal for what you're looking for, wait until we get closer to the trade deadline.

I think it will be tough to find a better "last" move (assuming we are acquiring one player, are not aggregating players in said trade, and want to stay under the 2nd apron). You're looking at guys about $18ish mil or less (depending on our final vet min signings) who are made available by their teams. With all this in mind, it's easy to see why DFS's name is being brought up.

I think $18M is definitely too high without moving someone else (at least McCain, possibly Oubre).

I expect Caleb Martin's Apron Salary to be about $9.3M this year, give or take a few hundred thousand. I believe all incentives, likely or not, are included in Apron Salary. Given reports of a max value of 4/40 for Martin, and assuming 5% annual increases with the incentives spread evenly, about $9.3M in the first year would be the expected amount.

In that case, adding Bona and 3 vet minimums to the already reported salaries would give $173.4M for 13 players, leaving about $15.5M below the 2nd apron.

[FireMorey]

Oubre signing made official.

[zaz102]

Besides the fact that it doesn't make much logical sense from what I think I understand about the cap rules, I don't think I would blow my last move on DFS unless he was free and even then I would have to think about it.

They have the luxury of not being in a rush. Unless you feel there's a really good deal for what you're looking for, wait until we get closer to the trade deadline.

I think it will be tough to find a better "last" move (assuming we are acquiring one player, are not aggregating players in said trade, and want to stay under the 2nd apron). You're looking at guys about $18ish mil or less (depending on our final vet min signings) who are made available by their teams. With all this in mind, it's easy to see why DFS's name is being brought up.

You might be right. I'd also be looking for Advdija, Eason, Portis. But those all seem varying degrees of much more unlikely.

[the_process]

Would Houston be interested in Markkanen I wonder?

[ckchen]

Let me ask again...Why the F do we need DFS?

Starting PF?

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Except that DFS is a SF that can kind of masquerade as a PF if you're really desperate, basically not much different than Caleb Martin. The moment they signed Caleb Martin, I frankly think that made DFS pointless/redundant. Is he a better defender? Maybe. But other than that, what are you getting out of this guy that you didn't just sign Caleb Martin to do? Certainly not enough to hard cap your team, or be the last and final move to finish this team.

[ckchen]

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The way that is worded, wouldn't shock me if the Sixers tried to get him on the minimum, though he probably gets a better offer.

My knee jerk assumption would be that throw that amount at him to retain him, but they might want some breathing room for a trade. Hard to imagine them just wanting to run that team back, right? I have a hard time reconciling their playoff success over the Jimmy era with their regular season mediocrity.

I honestly think that's exactly why they mentioned that amount. It might be slightly different now that they waived Orlando Robinson today, but I think basically we're more than likely going to see the Heat just give Highsmith something under that number, but more than other team can offer him, to retain him. Every article keeps saying that there is mutual interest in him returning, I honestly think at this point, it's just his agent trying to get the most they possibly can out of the Heat at this point, or if some mystery team that has an exception comes through with a better offer. Either way, if the Sixers have nothing more than a minimum salary to offer him, I don't see why he would come here.