Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF

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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#41 » by babyjax13 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 11:53 pm

OGSactownballer wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:UTA trades: John Collins, 2029 UTA 2nd, 2030 UTA 2nd
in: Tim Hardaway Jr., Trey Lyles (released)
Utah cuts future salary and gets worse for the tank.

SAC trades: Kevin Huerter, Trey Lyles, 2025 POR 2nd
in: John Collins
Sacramento gets a starting caliber power forward without using a first round pick or swap (because he is overpaid).

DET trades: Tim Hardaway Jr.
in: Kevin Huerter, 2025 POR 2nd, 2029 UTA 2nd, 2030 UTA 2nd
Detroit takes on another year of salary, but gets some second round picks and the player is one who is a bit more consistent shooter, creates more for others, and is a better fit with the team since he can more credibly play small forward for stretches.


I like the premise and we can immediately resign the waived Lyles for BAE.

But the POR 2nd is gone already. It would have to be a Sac future 2nd.

I don't envy whoever updates realgm's list of picks lol. I don't think you'll be able to resign Lyles in the year you traded him unless another team signs him then also waives him.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#42 » by Apz » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:04 am

They should take the sac 1st. Kings and hornets are the safest bet to have high draftpicks in the league, hardly think that will change
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#43 » by SNPA » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:18 am

Carter is being reported at missing 6+ months. That’s his season. Too hard to catchup.

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I don’t think that affects the PF hole though. That means Monk and DDR are going to have to play down a position a lot, which isn’t that bad.

Sac still needs to fill the hole. Stew has a 7’4’’ wingspan. The fact Detroit fans seemed mixed on the offer tells me it’s fairly close.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#44 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:25 am

Still feel Bobby Portis is the man here.
Huerter for Portis/Beauchamp
Or Huerter/Lyles for Portis/Connaughton

Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.
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Post#45 » by gswhoops » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:32 am

OxAndFox wrote:Still feel Bobby Portis is the man here.
Huerter for Portis/Beauchamp
Or Huerter/Lyles for Portis/Connaughton

Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.

The Bucks are over the second apron, they can't aggregate salaries.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#46 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:52 am

OxAndFox wrote:
Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.


No interest in Huerter after we drafted walters. Our 2/3 rotation is full with Barrett/Dick/Walters/Agbaji
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#47 » by HeatIn5 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 12:56 am

Isn't Keegan the starting PF ?
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#48 » by pillwenney » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:10 am

HeatIn5 wrote:Isn't Keegan the starting PF ?



Idea would be to keep him at SF. He's better at guarding down than up, and the team in general just needs better composite length around Sabonis.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#49 » by tester551 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:17 am

nzahir wrote:Any interest in Rui?

Honestly, as an outsider - I think Rui would be a perfect fit.

If a Grant to LAL trade materializes, I would flip Rui to SAC for Heurter. I don't think any picks need to be exchanged between Rui/Heurter.

Or would Vando be of more interest to the Kings?
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Post#50 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:29 am

gswhoops wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:Still feel Bobby Portis is the man here.
Huerter for Portis/Beauchamp
Or Huerter/Lyles for Portis/Connaughton

Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.

The Bucks are over the second apron, they can't aggregate salaries.


Oh damn. I thought they were just under. Oh well.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#51 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:34 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.


No interest in Huerter after we drafted walters. Our 2/3 rotation is full with Barrett/Dick/Walters/Agbaji


Huerter is better than all of them except Barrett, and Lyles would be a good fit off the bench to spread the floor with Barnes IMO.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#52 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:37 am

tester551 wrote:
nzahir wrote:Any interest in Rui?

Honestly, as an outsider - I think Rui would be a perfect fit.

If a Grant to LAL trade materializes, I would flip Rui to SAC for Heurter. I don't think any picks need to be exchanged between Rui/Heurter.

Or would Vando be of more interest to the Kings?


Neither guy would be of interest. Rui would have been if DDR didn't happen. But that would damage any spacing left on the Kings team.
I know someone will say he shot over 40% from 3 last season, but IMO that is an outlier on only 3.4 attempts per game. He isn't a true 3pt threat and does his best work in the midrange.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#53 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:41 am

OxAndFox wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
Or Collins.
Sac:
Collins
Utah:
Bruce Brown
Raptors:
Huerter/Lyles

Work out picks for yourselves.


No interest in Huerter after we drafted walters. Our 2/3 rotation is full with Barrett/Dick/Walters/Agbaji


Huerter is better than all of them except Barrett, and Lyles would be a good fit off the bench to spread the floor with Barnes IMO.


Don't really care that he's better when we are rebuilding. Makes no sense to block our prospects' playing time/development.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#54 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:43 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
No interest in Huerter after we drafted walters. Our 2/3 rotation is full with Barrett/Dick/Walters/Agbaji


Huerter is better than all of them except Barrett, and Lyles would be a good fit off the bench to spread the floor with Barnes IMO.


Don't really care that he's better when we are rebuilding. Makes no sense to block our prospects' playing time/development.


That's fair. I mean Huerter is a full year older than Barrett so it makes sense.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#55 » by RiotPunch » Mon Jul 8, 2024 2:42 am

Lyles/1st for Portis? Can SAC take on the difference there? Gets Milwaukee under the 2nd apron.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#56 » by tmorgan » Mon Jul 8, 2024 2:48 am

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tmorgan wrote:
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West is too competitive to believe in the Kings strongly. They might be top 6, might be play in and very well could be 12th or 13th if the pieces fail to fit. 1 good defensive perimeter player in their rotation and no rim protection and theyve traded shooting for more perimeter creation. Im not sure theyve gotten better and would not be surprised if their worse (relatively) with the talent upgrade.

If i could get SACtowns uprotected 1st for Stewart, i jump on it. Too much upside not to roll the dice.


Except they’d have Stewart that year as well. Despite not being a shot blocker, he is a rim protector and a switchable defender.

Again, I get it, but I think I’d pass. The far most likely outcome, trading Stewart for a player we don’t need and an 18th pick three years from now, isn’t enough for the damage it does to our perpetual rebuild.


I sill feel the reward is far too juicy to pass up. Kings are for sure more favoured to miss the playoffs than make it, even with Stewart. I dont see a big drop off from anybody that made the PS last year except maybe the Clips, and i still expect them to make top 10.

Then you have Houston/Spurs/Memphis all improving and at least 2 of them pushing for the playoffs (and Houston was right there with SAC to end last year), and who knows with Wemby, i genuinely wouldnt be surprised if he had top 5 impact next year and pushed SAS o to the bubble too.

And uprotected 1st for Stewart in a deep draft from a team favoured to miss the playoffs is an absolute no brainer


You are aware it’s the 2027 draft, right? None of this analysis seems relevant.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#57 » by AaronB » Mon Jul 8, 2024 3:56 am

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AaronB wrote:Sac should just sign Chuma. He has really never had a chance and yet I think he would be better than anything that you can get for that package.


A decent player on an expiring deal and a first round pick absolutely would return a better player than Chuma Okeke


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Chuma is an unrestricted FA since the Magic renounced him. He can go to Sac for free.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#58 » by SNPA » Mon Jul 8, 2024 4:31 am

With Carter being out 6-8 months (could easily be the season) what has Monte accomplished for on court upgrades? He turned Barnes/Sasha/Mitchell/Duarte into DDR.

Is that enough in the West?

I don’t see how it can be, he has to move Huerter for an upgrade. He simply hasn’t done enough yet to win more games this season.
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Re: Heurter + SAC27 = Your Team’s PF 

Post#59 » by zimpy27 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 4:32 am

Rui for Huerter straight up
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Post#60 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 8:21 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I would definitely take an unprotected SAC 1st for Stewart. I like some of the pieces but I see zero defense on that SAC squad and I don’t think they are going to be able to get into the higher seeds in the West.


Nobody is giving an unprotected pick for a player that’s not a top 3 option let alone a role player like Stewart. Sac defense when ellis was inserted was top 10 y’all gotta stop this nonsense of assuming if you didn’t watch the team that’s espn stuff

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