Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

[HeatIn5]

No draft picks next year. Can’t tank this year. Still hoping they trade Jimmy though. The drop off hasn’t been that big record wise when he doesn’t play in the regular season. Not going far in the playoffs anyway. Unless there are multiple injuries to other teams ahead of the Heat.

FYI-we own our pick if it is lottery. We can def tank. And should. One season. Everyone sell your soul.

If we get a lottery pick this year, we give up two unprotected first round picks, one to OKC and one to the Hornets to complete the Terry trade. Dont think thats a good idea.

We owe Charlotte a 1st anyways. The only thing is we'd go from a protected 25 and protected 27 to unprotected 26 and 28.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I just can’t stop thinking about how much Trae would single handedly fix this teams offense and how he is literally the best fit of any guard in the league outside of maybe Haliburton next to Bam and Ware and while his value is at the lowest it’s ever been we’re not even rumored to be interested. Just baffling to me

I think he’s not rumored here because even if his value is low the Hawks would be reluctant to deal him here and made there bed choosing him over Murray. They would probably deal him to the Spurs if they get their pick back but Spurs are not interested in that which puts the Hawks in win now territory.

They protected themselves a bit by trading Murray for that 2025 Pels pick while getting a big young PG in Daniels who can tandem with Young. They also got a vet PF in Larry Nance Jr to solidify there backup behind the very talented Jalen Johnson at the 4.

[HeatIn5]

I wonder who says no to

DFS and Schroeder for Herro

Seems that would balance us out tremendously and Herro would likely be their leading scorer.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I wonder who says no to

DFS and Schroeder for Herro

Seems that would balance us out tremendously and Herro would likely be their leading scorer.

Not a bad thought. But you are forgetting they already have a Herro who makes basically nothing in Cam Thomas. They also want to give Dariq Whitehead minutes behind him this year. BK is one team that has heavy incentive to tank. If BK does make a deal it’s going to be for expiring contracts with picks attached. Don’t see them taking on Herro’s long term money with Cam Thomas having developed with them.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/sports/cam-thomas-positioned-for-massive-role-in-nets-rebuild/

[Wiltside]

I wonder who says no to

DFS and Schroeder for Herro

Seems that would balance us out tremendously and Herro would likely be their leading scorer.

Not a bad thought. But you are forgetting they already have a Herro who makes basically nothing in Cam Thomas. They also want to give Dariq Whitehead minutes behind him this year. BK is one team that has heavy incentive to tank. If BK does make a deal it’s going to be for expiring contracts with picks attached. Don’t see them taking on Herro’s long term money with Cam Thomas having developed with them.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/sports/cam-thomas-positioned-for-massive-role-in-nets-rebuild/

I guess it depends on how high they rate Thomas. Last year of his cheap deal before he gets paid too.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I wonder who says no to

DFS and Schroeder for Herro

Seems that would balance us out tremendously and Herro would likely be their leading scorer.

Not a bad thought. But you are forgetting they already have a Herro who makes basically nothing in Cam Thomas. They also want to give Dariq Whitehead minutes behind him this year. BK is one team that has heavy incentive to tank. If BK does make a deal it’s going to be for expiring contracts with picks attached. Don’t see them taking on Herro’s long term money with Cam Thomas having developed with them.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/sports/cam-thomas-positioned-for-massive-role-in-nets-rebuild/

I guess it depends on how high they rate Thomas. Last year of his cheap deal before he gets paid too.

I think they ride it out with Thomas. Herro doesn’t seem like a match at this time over there. I could see them dealing some of there spare parts for another expiring with bird rights. Maybe even D’Angelo Russell if they can get a draft pick back from the Lakers. They own two picks in the 2025. They’ll let Cam Thomas chuck his heart out while they tank.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Might be able to get Schroder with Duncan and a pick. I still think Brogdan makes more sense considering the contracts.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we can’t make a trade for a PG we really need to be calling Spencer Dinwiddie to see if he’ll take the 5.2 million. He would be a solid rotation guard at 6’5 with both Rozier and Herro.

[Beenie]

[insfo]

No draft picks next year. Can’t tank this year. Still hoping they trade Jimmy though. The drop off hasn’t been that big record wise when he doesn’t play in the regular season. Not going far in the playoffs anyway. Unless there are multiple injuries to other teams ahead of the Heat.

FYI-we own our pick if it is lottery. We can def tank. And should. One season. Everyone sell your soul.

Have Pat spend some time with his family, and come back in time to draft Flagg or Harper. Sold!

[Wiltside]

Why would the Kings deal a lottery pick and Kevin Huerter for a bad contract and Bruno Fernando?

They already have Keegan Murray at the 3/4 longer term too.

Trae and Tyler is an awful defensive backcourt that would get abused too.

Sorry Beenie, don’t see this one.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Hawks have Bogdonovic back as the starting two at a great rate for 3 more years and are ready to give Kobe Bufkin minutes this year now that Murray was traded. They don’t need Herro and his 30 million next to Trae and they don’t need to trade Trae for Herro and other pieces we have either.

[Beenie]

Why would the Kings deal a lottery pick and Kevin Huerter for a bad contract and Bruno Fernando?

They already have Keegan Murray at the 3/4 longer term too.

Trae and Tyler is an awful defensive backcourt that would get abused too.

Sorry Beenie, don’t see this one.

Because they are rumored to want more wings even after getting Derozan and that’s probably because they are void of any wing defenders

They just signed monk to a big contract so KH would presumably be on the outs.

Carter is having surgery so his value may never be lower than it is right now.

Btw, this is a shell of an offer. Swaps and or picks could very well also be involved

[MettaWorldPanda]

Why would the Kings deal a lottery pick and Kevin Huerter for a bad contract and Bruno Fernando?

They already have Keegan Murray at the 3/4 longer term too.

Trae and Tyler is an awful defensive backcourt that would get abused too.

Sorry Beenie, don’t see this one.

Because they are rumored to want more wings even after getting Derozan and that’s probably because they are void of any wing defenders

They just signed monk to a big contract so KH would presumably be on the outs.

Carter is having surgery so his value may never be lower than it is right now.

Btw, this is a shell of an offer. Swaps and or picks could very well also be involved

They took Carter knowing full and well about his shoulder. No way he’s getting dealt any time soon.

[Beenie]

Hawks have Bogdonovic back as the starting two at a great rate for 3 more years and are ready to give Kobe Bufkin minutes this year now that Murray was traded. They don’t need Herro and his 30 million next to Trae and they don’t need to trade Trae for Herro and other pieces we have either.

They are rumored to be interested in moving off of Hunter.

And up and down their lineup, ATL pretty much has depth at every position so it’s more complicated projection to say that they have Bogdon already thus they probably aren’t interested in Herro.

Herro is better than Bogdon and has the greater upside so there’s that.

Unless they trade Hunter for picks to a cap space team, which there are only a few remaining, they are gonna have to take back salary and deal with the positional clutter that they are faced with if in fact they are determined to move Hunter.

[Beenie]

Why would the Kings deal a lottery pick and Kevin Huerter for a bad contract and Bruno Fernando?

They already have Keegan Murray at the 3/4 longer term too.

Trae and Tyler is an awful defensive backcourt that would get abused too.

Sorry Beenie, don’t see this one.

Because they are rumored to want more wings even after getting Derozan and that’s probably because they are void of any wing defenders

They just signed monk to a big contract so KH would presumably be on the outs.

Carter is having surgery so his value may never be lower than it is right now.

Btw, this is a shell of an offer. Swaps and or picks could very well also be involved

They took Carter knowing full and well about his shoulder. No way he’s getting dealt any time soon.

Maybe not but it was reported during the draft that they were engaged in trade talks to move off that pick.

They are in win now mode obviously. I suspect that they’d be willing to move him for the right deal. Don’t know if Hunter qualifies but the archetype of a young wing defender role player certainly fits the bill, I’d guess.

[Beenie]

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[HeatIn5]

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Heat could do the funniest thing getting Kuzma

IYKYK

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If you don't know, just google Tyler Herro Kyle Kuzma

[DayofMourning]

Thats kind of interesting Beenie. Get another productive offensive player. A top athlete. Who can defend.

Im down. Sactown wouldnt do it.

[Pokuokic]

Hawks have Bogdonovic back as the starting two at a great rate for 3 more years and are ready to give Kobe Bufkin minutes this year now that Murray was traded. They don’t need Herro and his 30 million next to Trae and they don’t need to trade Trae for Herro and other pieces we have either.

They are rumored to be interested in moving off of Hunter.

And up and down their lineup, ATL pretty much has depth at every position so it’s more complicated projection to say that they have Bogdon already thus they probably aren’t interested in Herro.

Herro is better than Bogdon and has the greater upside so there’s that.

Unless they trade Hunter for picks to a cap space team, which there are only a few remaining, they are gonna have to take back salary and deal with the positional clutter that they are faced with if in fact they are determined to move Hunter.

He's not better than Bogdan , Bogdan got a 7 foot plus wingpsan/strong as hell meaning much better defender and a way better passer/pick n roll player and he has no upside due to his physical limitations/limited IQ. Shooting is about the same other than that Bogdan superior in every aspect aside from chucking I guess.