Miami Heat Summer League 2024 Thread

[dshearn]

Poor mans Orlando Robinson based on summer league play lol let’s see him do it when it matters! I like the pick and have been hype about it but watching him I’m thinking I need to pump the brakes a little bit on him playing next to Bam this coming season and potentially working his way into being a starter. Hes clearly very raw which should always be expected but idk about him being matched up with the Embiid, Jokic, KP and getting switched on to defending nba level guards or Gianni’s lebron etc. hes clearly nowhere near ready for that but maybe in 2 years

Ware has shown more promise from his first 2 Summer league games than Robinson had in his stint in Miami.

I would agree with that....

He is making the easy shots close in ...well....loook easy.... This week's edition of the Webster's Dictionary should have a photo of Ware under the definition of "soft touch"


maybe next week will be different....but it has been a minute since we have seen a big be unstoppable around the rim.

[DayofMourning]

I was today years old when I found out that Ware was named after Superman

How nerdy of his parents lol

Well, they spelled it wrong, and as luck would have it, theyve been saying it wrong too.

[contract]

Is Ware giving shades of Whiteside a good or bad thing?

To me it's good, cause Whiteside had elite tools and athleticism, we just got him when when he was too mature. His flaws were cooked in. We're getting Ware when there's time to fix him. Whiteside at his peak was all defense and near allstar level. If Ware reaches that and gets rid of a lot of his flaws, that's a great get at 15.

Whiteside's biggest problem was always his attitude. As long as this kid doesn't have that problem, he should be OK with some coaching and physical development.

[Wiltside]

Twix’s guy Boogie Ellis had a nice game for the Kings.

[twix2500]

Twix’s guy Boogie Ellis had a nice game for the Kings.

Trajedy that the Heat didn't make him the 2nd two way contract. He knows how the to play defensively and offensive. And he has ELITE shooting potential

[greg4012]

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[twix2500]

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how you not get this kid. He is only signed to an exhibit 10

[heater4life]

Wares jumpshot, footwork, quickness, and handle is far ahead of anything Whiteside had.

From his over the shoulder turn around jumper, Nowitzki-esque one legged fade away, even his blocked attempt against GS, he put the ball on the deck crossed his defender and spun baseline. Whiteside couldn’t remotely do any of those in his prime.

I think people are getting lost in mesurables and similarities in physique.

[Hoops3355]

Wares jumpshot, footwork, quickness, and handle is far ahead of anything Whiteside had.

From his over the shoulder turn around jumper, Nowitzki-esque one legged fade away, even his blocked attempt against GS, he put the ball on the deck crossed his defender and spun baseline. Whiteside couldn’t remotely do any of those in his prime.

I think people are getting lost in mesurables and similarities in physique.

Agreed look at his combine times. It's pretty clear he can move. Was quicker than BAM was coming out of college. Now footwork is it's own skillset and we've shown an ability to polish so I'm not even worried about the defensive side of the game he'll figure it out.

The sample we got last night was exciting. That Dirk jumper, the Bosh Elbow Jumper, and that post up where he just used his length to flip it in after turning into the middle of the paint from the low block were all things he'd should be able to get at the NBA level. Imagine Bam sitting the corner there waiting for a 3 ball!

Ware was such a legit pick. I'm still surprised he dropped given the MASSIVE improvement he made from Freshman to Sophomore year. I'm curious how the heat value existing skills vs improvement rate or if they even consider it.

[carnageta]

Wares jumpshot, footwork, quickness, and handle is far ahead of anything Whiteside had.

From his over the shoulder turn around jumper, Nowitzki-esque one legged fade away, even his blocked attempt against GS, he put the ball on the deck crossed his defender and spun baseline. Whiteside couldn’t remotely do any of those in his prime.

I think people are getting lost in mesurables and similarities in physique.

This is just incorrect. Go Youtube Hassan Whiteside highlight reel and you'll see many instances of jumpshots, hook shots, shoulder-turn shots, fadeaways, etc.

Not saying Ware won't be better, just saying that Hassan definitely showed the same flashes during his first 2 years with us. Of course, he was already 25-26 by then, whereas Ware is only 20, so that's a great sign.

[carnageta]

"Hassan has never made a baby hook, or a jumpshot".

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[heater4life]

After watching his performance last night, I firmly believe we’re best bringing him off the bench and letting him work on his craft with the second unit.

Playing big minutes alongside Bam will slow his development imo. All the things he did last night is what he needs to become great and consistent at. Many things Bam already does well.

The jump shot and spot up shooting will come with time,which will open up an expanded role next to Bam, but I would hate for him to be religated to that role in a starting unit. Better role for Jovic imo.

[carnageta]

Kal'el dominated a bunch of dudes that probably won't make an NBA roster.

Hassan had actual dominance against NBA players.


Love Ware, but the Hassan disrespect is real lol (probably warranted though so I don't mind).

[heater4life]

"Hassan has never made a baby hook, or a jumpshot".

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Your making my point. “Hassan had a soft touch, made a baby hook, caught lobs, and hit a jump shot” theyre the same player.

Hassan had ugly form and a hitch on his jumper. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t hit one on occasion, it means he was less a natural and less efficient a shooter.

Your tieing together the things that made/will make both players good and not seeing the differences that will possibly make the other very good and altogether a different player on the court than the later.

[carnageta]

"Hassan has never made a baby hook, or a jumpshot".

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Your making my point. “Hassan had a soft touch, made a baby hook, caught lobs, and hit a jump shot” theyre the same player.

Hassan had ugly form and a hitch on his jumper. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t hit one on occasion, it means he was less a natural and less efficient a shooter.

Your tieing together the things that made/will make both players good and not seeing the differences that will possibly make the other very good and altogether a different player on the court than the later.

Based off of a 1 game sample size in the summer league (against players that will likely not make an NBA roster), you've said the following:

Wares jumpshot, footwork, quickness, and handle is far ahead of anything Whiteside had.


I hope you're correct because I want Ware to turn out great, but that's a pretty bold statement to make. It's easy to look great against non NBA-level players.

[greg4012]

"Hassan has never made a baby hook, or a jumpshot".

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You made up a quote to refute it

[heater4life]

"Hassan has never made a baby hook, or a jumpshot".

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Your making my point. “Hassan had a soft touch, made a baby hook, caught lobs, and hit a jump shot” theyre the same player.

Hassan had ugly form and a hitch on his jumper. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t hit one on occasion, it means he was less a natural and less efficient a shooter.

Your tieing together the things that made/will make both players good and not seeing the differences that will possibly make the other very good and altogether a different player on the court than the later.

Based off of a 1 game sample size in the summer league (against players that will likely not make an NBA roster), you've said the following:

Wares jumpshot, footwork, quickness, and handle is far ahead of anything Whiteside had.


I hope you're correct because I want Ware to turn out great, but that's a pretty bold statement to make. It's easy to look great against non NBA-level players.

No, I said the following based off of those same qualities that were present during his last collegiate season and that are again flashing against non-nba talent.

Qualities that were not present in Whitesides game in the entirety of his career. Which at times he forced inefficiently because he was “different”.

My point is, they look similar but one has potential to be much more well rounded and talented.

[dolphinatik]

Hassan came from nothing to getting 100mil contract. Life changing. Good for him buthe started feeling himself too much and demanding too much and now is outta this league. Leverage is a heel of a thing and only 2% on the players have it. It's a privilege to get paid to ball. Heat players are all sacrifice guys... that's the real culture.

[ZoStrong]

Is Ware giving shades of Whiteside a good or bad thing?

To me it's good, cause Whiteside had elite tools and athleticism, we just got him when when he was too mature. His flaws were cooked in. We're getting Ware when there's time to fix him. Whiteside at his peak was all defense and near allstar level. If Ware reaches that and gets rid of a lot of his flaws, that's a great get at 15.

Whiteside's biggest problem was always his attitude. As long as this kid doesn't have that problem, he should be OK with some coaching and physical development.

Ya, nothing wrong w Whiteside except his brain. Imagine if you replace his brain w Zo or Bam's. If Ware has the work ethic n can be coachable, Ware will have a much much better career than that knucklehead, lol

[heater4life]

Again doesn’t mean Ware will develop but, the potential and mechanics are there. Look at the difference in shooting mechanics. Ware lightyears ahead in natural shooting ability.

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