Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[the_process]

Upgrading the announcers would be nice.

As an aside, on the T&T board both the Kings and Clippers are also fishing for PF's. Assuming this is an accurate reflection of those teams needs, it's likely going to be a sellers market at PF. I would be trying to get ahead of this and look around now at younger, undervalued guys who might be ready to take a leap rather than possibly pay absurd prices like 2 1sts for DFS or three for Portis.

[mjkvol]

This team is cooking so hard this Summer. Those jerseys should never be our main jerseys but, as an alt? Especially for what should be a good team... Fantastic. Morey is about to **** my wallet up.

Next, we need Malik Rose and Marc Zumoff back! At the very least, let's bring Tom McGinnis and Marc Jackson! That will drive away the bad luck on our team.

Yeah, this x 1000.

The organization hasn't been on an upswing like this in ages. Please get rid of the clownshow broadcast team and let a pro like McGinnis do the PBP.

Regarding the analyst job, bring in Marc Jackson's friend's brother's friend's friend. That way, we get insider info during games as well.

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[NearingZero]

I will say I trust Morey on this. I'm sure he has lawyers, Actuaries... working on all scenarios.

Right. For us, this is just guesswork. I've learned a lot actually reading parts of the CBA and discussing things here, but there's still a vast gulf to the professionals.

At the same time, I think it's a good idea as fans to set expectations based on the information we do have access to. Obviously we could just have patience and not speculate at all, but where's the fun in that?

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[Jailblazers7]

Sixers staff should get some huge props for pulling off two great moments to celebrate Tyrese & build the sales pitch for Paul George. I’m sure there are behind the scenes folks that put in a ton of hours to make those events special & they absolutely nailed it.

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[ckchen]

Upgrading the announcers would be nice.

As an aside, on the T&T board both the Kings and Clippers are also fishing for PF's. Assuming this is an accurate reflection of those teams needs, it's likely going to be a sellers market at PF. I would be trying to get ahead of this and look around now at younger, undervalued guys who might be ready to take a leap rather than possibly pay absurd prices like 2 1sts for DFS or three for Portis.

Realistically though all of those teams (including us) have zero/not much cap space/room under the 2nd apron to work with, so I'm not really that concerned about overpaying for a PF.

[Iscull]

Upgrading the announcers would be nice.

As an aside, on the T&T board both the Kings and Clippers are also fishing for PF's. Assuming this is an accurate reflection of those teams needs, it's likely going to be a sellers market at PF. I would be trying to get ahead of this and look around now at younger, undervalued guys who might be ready to take a leap rather than possibly pay absurd prices like 2 1sts for DFS or three for Portis.

Realistically though all of those teams (including us) have zero/not much cap space/room under the 2nd apron to work with, so I'm not really that concerned about overpaying for a PF.

I think it's more likely we resign K Martin (TBD) and add a vet min PF like Morris. That will bring our roster up to 13.

Add Lowry/Payne at PG and I feel pretty good about the roster. This is a great opporunity for Council to step up and take 15-18 mpg on the wing.

Maxey / Vet Min / McCain
Oubre / Gordon / Edwards
C Mart / Council
George / Morris / K Mart
Embiid / Drummond / Bona

[Covi_Marsh]

Sixers made all their announcements except Eric Gordon. Taking our time with these vet minimums I see.

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He said he would stay put if LAC gave him the same contract of Leonard and that he was really close to be traded to GSW.

We are the third option, for money.
Let's hope for good.

[youngcrev]

I don't mean to get in your face about this, 'cause we're both rooting for the same thing and I know you just want the team to be better.

So please take the following in that spirit of a fan just trying to get at the truth:

(1) If all that matters is for our top 3 to outperform all other teams' top 3s, then it doesn't matter whether we trade assets for DFS (and it doesn't matter much whatever else we do).

(2) If a lot of other stuff DOES indeed matter besides how our top 3 perform (as I think will be the case), then we can't be getting tricked into overspending for mediocre role players.

(3) Back to my original point, if your 4th best player is mediocre-- not even a good NBA player-- then you're pretty much screwed. The 2022 champion Warriors' 4th through 7th players were, in no particular order, Kevon Looney, Jonathan Kuminga, Andrew Wiggins, and Draymond Green, all of whom are good NBA players. The 2021 champion Bucks' 4th and 5th best players (in whichever order you prefer) were Bobby Portis and Brook Lopez, who at the time were both good NBA players.

To find a title caliber team with a 4th player as "meh" as DFS, I think you'd have to go all the way back to the 2012 Miami Heat and Udonis Haslem (or Mario Chalmers, take your pick), and that Heat team had two of the top 5 or 6 players in the past 25 years as well as a third who was the league's top 1 or 2 at his position, all in their primes.

In short: if we're to have any chance at a title in the next year or two we're going to need to acquire another good player-- perhaps with a KJ Martin S&T -- or else need one of our existing crew to take a big step up (Oubre or Council or Martin, although I doubt that Martin's going to become an entirely different-level player than he's been for the past several years). It won't be accomplished by adding one or more mediocre players.

My point was that we're never going to match up to the Celtics 4th and 5th best guys, not that our 4th and 5th don't matter. Our top-3 is where we need to make up that difference. That's where the bulk of our production is going to be coming from. You need to fill in the best you can around that, with defense and shooting being the primary needs. DFS would give us a 3rd guy in that Martin/Oubre tier of players, and would represent the most reliable one of the group in those 2 primary needs.

They should absolutely be aiming higher than DFS... But adding him is also not nothing. He'd be a helpful player here. Is he enough to get them over the top? I don't know. I also don't know what else is available to them. He represents an improvement over what they have, and thus increases their odds in the playoffs.

[ProcessDoctor]

Sounds like we really benefited from the incompetence of another organization. Isn’t it common knowledge that stars have egos, and if you offend them they’re halfway out the door?

I still find the whole Harden and PG swap hilarious. Like the fact that LA balked at trading PG to us for Harden, when they were planning to lowball PG is just comical. Thanks for the picks and PG

[LloydFree]

So we initially thought the Clippers lost PG over the 4th year, but it turns out it was over a series of insulting offers, and finally a refusal to give a No-trade clause.

The Clippers fumbled this badly, if negotiations were going like this, they should have traded him for whatever they could get.

[Arsenal]

Clippers decided they didn’t want him awhile ago most likely due to 2nd Apron issues. They made offers they knew he wouldn’t accept just to save face.

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[FireMorey]

Couldn't fit that even if they wanted to.

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He said he would stay put if LAC gave him the same contract of Leonard and that he was really close to be traded to GSW.

We are the third option, for money.
Let's hope for good.

This makes it clear that Morey, in the end, was very lucky. If the Clippers had given him a better contract, George would not be in Philadelphia today. If the Clippers had accepted the Warriors' terms, George would now be in his second choice, which was San Francisco. I'm glad Morey got lucky, as his luck is the luck of us all, but really, it didn't have that much merit.

That said, I really like the way the squad is shaping up, and I thought the acquisition of Caleb was a very good one. He was also lucky though.

[Sixerscan]

Upgrading the announcers would be nice.

As an aside, on the T&T board both the Kings and Clippers are also fishing for PF's. Assuming this is an accurate reflection of those teams needs, it's likely going to be a sellers market at PF. I would be trying to get ahead of this and look around now at younger, undervalued guys who might be ready to take a leap rather than possibly pay absurd prices like 2 1sts for DFS or three for Portis.

A bigger issue is there just really aren’t that many power forwards in the league anymore. Most of them just become small ball centers.

[ckchen]

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The way that is worded, wouldn't shock me if the Sixers tried to get him on the minimum, though he probably gets a better offer.

My knee jerk assumption would be that throw that amount at him to retain him, but they might want some breathing room for a trade. Hard to imagine them just wanting to run that team back, right? I have a hard time reconciling their playoff success over the Jimmy era with their regular season mediocrity.

I honestly think that's exactly why they mentioned that amount. It might be slightly different now that they waived Orlando Robinson today, but I think basically we're more than likely going to see the Heat just give Highsmith something under that number, but more than other team can offer him, to retain him. Every article keeps saying that there is mutual interest in him returning, I honestly think at this point, it's just his agent trying to get the most they possibly can out of the Heat at this point, or if some mystery team that has an exception comes through with a better offer. Either way, if the Sixers have nothing more than a minimum salary to offer him, I don't see why he would come here.

Why look, exactly as expected. 2 yrs/$11M back to Miami.