LETS GO!
Summer league is gonna be awesome. Baylor Scheierman gonna go all Kelly Olynyk up in here, let’s do it!!
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redslastlaugh wrote:Alright, great news, love JD.
LETS GO!
Summer league is gonna be awesome. Baylor Scheierman gonna go all Kelly Olynyk up in here, let’s do it!!
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hugepatsfan wrote:Meh, I don't see it with him. Just doesn't seem like an NBA player. I definitely agree with signing a ball handler to one of those two way spots. If any 2 of Holiday/White/Pritchard miss the same game, we'll have to resort to the square peg in the round hole that is Jaden Springer playing PG. Probably still a better option than JD, but nice to have another layer of depth.
phincsfan wrote:If he was an NBA player a team would have picked him up already. I watched most of the Maine games this season and I thought Steward was the better player in that backcourt. It's nice that the organization is giving DJ every possible chance to succeed, but eventually you gotta.....
165bows wrote:Hal14 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:
JB was never a high turnover guy, that is a myth. He doesn’t rack up assists, I think that is where people get lost.
Turnovers were a huge problem for him in college, as evidenced by his scouting report video by Box and One (which I can't post on here since Adam Spinella, Box and One guy took down all of his old vids when he got hired by the Sixers).
He was also a turnover machine in summer league last year..
And has had some turnover issues in the G league.
Turnovers, shooting and defense are his main weaknesses..as well as being kind of undersized for a guard..
JB not JD
phincsfan wrote:If he was an NBA player a team would have picked him up already. I watched most of the Maine games this season and I thought Steward was the better player in that backcourt. It's nice that the organization is giving DJ every possible chance to succeed, but eventually you gotta.....
Hal14 wrote:165bows wrote:Hal14 wrote:Turnovers were a huge problem for him in college, as evidenced by his scouting report video by Box and One (which I can't post on here since Adam Spinella, Box and One guy took down all of his old vids when he got hired by the Sixers).
He was also a turnover machine in summer league last year..
And has had some turnover issues in the G league.
Turnovers, shooting and defense are his main weaknesses..as well as being kind of undersized for a guard..
JB not JD
Oh whoops, lol..thought that said JD.
Dogen wrote:Why is everyone so bearish on JD? I mean, I understand we're spoiled now with a bevy of great signings and extensions. JD helped bring the Maine team to the G-Finals as a starter. Now he's back with that team to follow up from last year in Maine. The team brought him back, and he still has a job in the league.
It's OK just to say "congrats JD, good luck in Maine this year, maybe see ya for a few minutes in Boston!" and let it be. Instead, it's "Oh look at him dribbling away our precious lives!" Kind of petty.
There's still a roster spot open. If the team needs a backup vet PG, they can get one. We're not dependent on Davison.
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Froob wrote:Dogen wrote:Why is everyone so bearish on JD? I mean, I understand we're spoiled now with a bevy of great signings and extensions. JD helped bring the Maine team to the G-Finals as a starter. Now he's back with that team to follow up from last year in Maine. The team brought him back, and he still has a job in the league.
It's OK just to say "congrats JD, good luck in Maine this year, maybe see ya for a few minutes in Boston!" and let it be. Instead, it's "Oh look at him dribbling away our precious lives!" Kind of petty.
There's still a roster spot open. If the team needs a backup vet PG, they can get one. We're not dependent on Davison.
Not like we are saying it directly to the guy lol. The board is for discussion is it not?
Curious from the folks that enjoy JD’s game what they specifically see in it. Would love to be wrong about him.
Froob wrote:Dogen wrote:Why is everyone so bearish on JD? I mean, I understand we're spoiled now with a bevy of great signings and extensions. JD helped bring the Maine team to the G-Finals as a starter. Now he's back with that team to follow up from last year in Maine. The team brought him back, and he still has a job in the league.
It's OK just to say "congrats JD, good luck in Maine this year, maybe see ya for a few minutes in Boston!" and let it be. Instead, it's "Oh look at him dribbling away our precious lives!" Kind of petty.
There's still a roster spot open. If the team needs a backup vet PG, they can get one. We're not dependent on Davison.
Not like we are saying it directly to the guy lol. The board is for discussion is it not?
Curious from the folks that enjoy JD’s game what they specifically see in it. Would love to be wrong about him.
cloverleaf wrote:Hal14 wrote:165bows wrote:JB not JD
Oh whoops, lol..thought that said JD.
Our eyes weren't lying when we saw JB repeatedly dribbling the ball off his foot or throwing the ball away at those rare times he tried to pass it to a teammate. But he of course has made himself a dramatically better player now.
And good move for a still very young Mr. Davison. I hope he's matured in his focus and that he'll earn his way up from the 2-way during the season.
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:If Brad Stevens signed a 21 year old point guard that was top five in total points and assists scored in the G-League last year from another team roster to a two way deal everybody would be praising him for stealing that guy from the rest of the league. But for some reason JD Davison already being in the Celtics system is being held against him. I don't get that.
I understand that he isn't an NBA player today and that might be slightly disappointing after two years in Maine but he got much better from year 1 to year 2 and he deserves another chance to improve into an NBA guy. Last year Stevens cycled through Jay Scrubb and Nathan Knight on two ways before settling on Drew Peterson. If Davison doesn't cut it, I trust Brad to sort it out and find someone who will. Until then let JD show he deserves the opportunity.
The turnovers issue is so overstated by the way. He has the ball in his hands all the time, of course his raw totals of turnovers are going to look bad. His assist to turnover ratio is a very solid 2.5. He had a 39.4 AST% in the G-League last season which only Young, Haliburton, Doncic and Jokic exceeded at the NBA level last year. As a reference point, nobody on Boston topped 22% except JD in his very limited run where he was at 32.9%. He is a special passer.
Shak_Celts wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Hal14 wrote:Oh whoops, lol..thought that said JD.
Our eyes weren't lying when we saw JB repeatedly dribbling the ball off his foot or throwing the ball away at those rare times he tried to pass it to a teammate. But he of course has made himself a dramatically better player now.
And good move for a still very young Mr. Davison. I hope he's matured in his focus and that he'll earn his way up from the 2-way during the season.
Your eyes may not have been lying, those few times, but your analysis that it was a lot is a problem that a lot of people have. Terrible turnovers at times, absolutely, but he just wasn’t and isn’t a high turnover guy. This isn’t me just liking the guy either.
It’s all good, it doesn’t really matter now, he can go out next year and turn it over 10 times a game, he’s forever a Celtics champion. If Ray Allen can bring his turncoat behind back then anyone can… well, not Perk (still a champ)!