Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

[F N 11]

Kessler showing Ihart tendencies. Getting bodied then getting get back .

[mpharris36]

Kessler showing Ihart tendencies. Getting bodied then getting get back .

shot blockers get dunked on...it happens

he also has 4 blocks in the game once they reverse this call.

[DaGawd]

Kessler showing Ihart tendencies. Getting bodied then getting get back .

he’ll fit right in then.. hope duece likes skiing

[WargamesX]

He would be good for what we need but he isn’t a starting center. Not on a good team.

Mitch/Sims/Kessler should be enough bodies at the 5, and creates the “play hard defense because we got 18 fouls to give” dynamic we need from that position.

[Ghetto Gospel]

idk can we just send them like 4 2nds for kessler

[aggo]

go get Marcus Landry

[Ghetto Gospel]

what about kenny lofton jr? can we just get that dude some ozempic and call it

[WargamesX]

idk can we just send them like 4 2nds for kessler

A protected 1st is still a 1st

[3toheadmelo]

Kessler reminds me of Whiteside. Situational big off the bench

[R-DAWG]

I do have my thoughts on this. I think a lot of potential moves are being held up on the Jazz decision with Lauri Markkanen. For example I don't think the Jazz are making any other offloading moves before they figure out what they will do with him.

Food for thought

Utah and Golden State are talking Marakkanen

Golden State can only trade 2 future 1’s unless they amended the pick they owe Washington (2030 top-20 protected). If they get that back, they can trade 4 future 1’s under the Stepin rule.

We own a WAS pick protected for the next 2 years turning into 2 2nds in 26 and 27. So most likely this is back to back picks in the mid 30’s

How can we enter this deal where we essentially return Washington’s pick, end up with Kessler and help Utah get more value from golden state in a Lauri deal.

hmmm that is interesting. Maybe us sending the Wasington pick back to washington allows washington to send the GS pick back to GS...to open up more 1st for GS to trade...to then somehow re-route Kessler to us.

That was my thought.

Washington gets likely two high 2nds back in exchange for a pick that conveys anywhere between 20-50 in 2030.

By GS getting control of their 2030 1st back it frees them up to trade 29 and 31 to Utah.

They need to find a way to get us Kessler for the protected WAS pick. Something Utah won’t do outside of a larger trade

Need a windhorst photo here

[F N 11]

Kessler is back ahaha

Game saving block

[mpharris36]

this game is wildly entertaining!

[DaGawd]

Kessler reminds me of Whiteside. Situational big off the bench

nice luxury to have as a contender

[Deeeez Knicks]

I wouldn't want to give up much more than Duece for him (or 3 team whatever dueces value in terms of re-routing draft picks to utah). But its just about minutes and NEED more right now.

Brunson is 34-36 mins
Mikal is 34-36 mins
OG is 34-36 mins
DD is 24 mins at least
Hart is 24 mins at least
Randle is 34-36 mins

Our center rotation of Mitch and whoever else is playing center is going to be another 48.

That leaves what 8-10 minutes for Duece a night just backing up Brunson. With DD coming off the bench that certainly complicated Dueces role. And we have insurance with Kolek and potentially the TPMLE to get a vet guard as well.

Mitch being injury prone could derail our season if we don't get a viable backup/spot starter big.

I just wouldn't panic based on need right now. Seems like Walker is getting a little overrated too. He's fine, just don't think I'd pay the asking price which is probably Deuce plus a pick or even multiple picks. Ainge won't have an interest in crappy picks either.

Not even sure we can play Kessler big minutes against teams like the Celtics, Sixers, Bucks in the playoffs anyway. He doesn't really match up well against those teams... Embiid averages 45ppg against Walker. Celtics will pull him out of the paint rendering him a liability. We probably need to learn to play small ball to beat them.

I looked that up because that seemed a bit crazy . That was Embiid vs the Jazz. Kessler in the game that embiid dropped 59 was the backup and was a +13 in 12 minutes with 3 blocks (seemed like the only guy that defended him decently). Jazz like to play really small with there starters I think Vanderbilt was there starting 5 and got cooked.

I don't think anyone is "overrating him" he is what he is...good rebounding, good rim protection and can finish around the basket. I wouldn't call it a panic move unless we way overpaid which I think at this point Leon wouldn't do. If its too rich we look for other scenarios.

This is Ainge so we know the asking price will be high and it'll take an overpay.

In terms of Kessler, he protects the paint but is a pretty big liability in other areas. It does make him tough to play in certain matchups. Id just roll with the free players like Prescious or Paul Reed. Play some small ball too. Save our assets for something else.

[dukeknicksirish]

If GSW trade for Kessler & Lauri, we need Trayce Jackson Davis please and thank you . Mitch/TJD/Precious/Sims is bueno

[R-DAWG]

idk can we just send them like 4 2nds for kessler

How many seconds do we have left?

[Spandau]

Deuce >>> Kessler

Don't let Ainge rip us off

I wouldn't want to give up much more than Duece for him (or 3 team whatever dueces value in terms of re-routing draft picks to utah). But its just about minutes and NEED more right now.

Brunson is 34-36 mins
Mikal is 34-36 mins
OG is 34-36 mins
DD is 24 mins at least
Hart is 24 mins at least
Randle is 34-36 mins

Our center rotation of Mitch and whoever else is playing center is going to be another 48.

That leaves what 8-10 minutes for Duece a night just backing up Brunson. With DD coming off the bench that certainly complicated Dueces role. And we have insurance with Kolek and potentially the TPMLE to get a vet guard as well.

Mitch being injury prone could derail our season if we don't get a viable backup/spot starter big.

Agreed. I’m not trying to sound like the sky is falling, but I just cannot go into another season with Mitch’s health being such a massive factor in whether we contend.

With the massive talent boost this team has seen, our window has just begun to open and we really need to take advantage of that. Wrap it up — get the team built. Cash in some chips.

This is EXACTLY why the team-friendly contracts Leon has handed out are so great: when you find a better fit to move towards a championship, you can actually get value for that player.

I love Deuce, but I want to see a title in my lifetime.

[mpharris36]

I just wouldn't panic based on need right now. Seems like Walker is getting a little overrated too. He's fine, just don't think I'd pay the asking price which is probably Deuce plus a pick or even multiple picks. Ainge won't have an interest in crappy picks either.

Not even sure we can play Kessler big minutes against teams like the Celtics, Sixers, Bucks in the playoffs anyway. He doesn't really match up well against those teams... Embiid averages 45ppg against Walker. Celtics will pull him out of the paint rendering him a liability. We probably need to learn to play small ball to beat them.

I looked that up because that seemed a bit crazy . That was Embiid vs the Jazz. Kessler in the game that embiid dropped 59 was the backup and was a +13 in 12 minutes with 3 blocks (seemed like the only guy that defended him decently). Jazz like to play really small with there starters I think Vanderbilt was there starting 5 and got cooked.

I don't think anyone is "overrating him" he is what he is...good rebounding, good rim protection and can finish around the basket. I wouldn't call it a panic move unless we way overpaid which I think at this point Leon wouldn't do. If its too rich we look for other scenarios.

This is Ainge so we know the asking price will be high and it'll take an overpay.

In terms of Kessler, he protects the paint but is a pretty big liability in other areas. It does make him tough to play in certain matchups. Id just roll with the free players like Prescious or Paul Reed. Play some small ball too. Save our assets for something else.

In a vacuum again that may be fine but we are talking about mitch...we are an injury away from Precious or Sims playing huge roles for a contender.

If its too rich its too rich. But he's a niche player he is a good offensive rebounder, great rim protector. And your right vs stretch bigs he probably won't play as much but that is matchup driven. In an idea world I would want a Kessler and then Precious back with bird rights as our 5th big. Just like last year with Ihart/Mitch and then precious in case we need him.

[mpharris36]

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5 blocks in the game. Also had a big block vs Edey they overturned. Edey is huge.

That was a fun game.

[ctorres]

Does Rokas have any value?

I would trade his rights for Kessler

I'm shocked that the Jazz are dangling Kessler though. Do the Jazz have a better center on their squad?