Cooper Flagg

[12footrim]

Just heard Brian Windhorst say on his podcast some of his NBA scout friends he trust weren't 100% sold Flagg would even be the #1 pick next year.

I don't think it's a knock on Flagg. Traore, Bailey, Harper are also very good prospects and could wind up #1 with strong years. I think it would be an upset if Flagg wasn't the number one pick next year but it's a long time between now an the draft.

See my other post. My point is if you are being billed like the best draft prospect since LeBron which I've seen some hype him up to the level of being, it's still an indictment of that. You can't hype him up like that and then say he might not be number one because VJ Edcomb (who they mentioned by name) or Harper are "so good" based on anything we know today. The fact it's even in the conversation with actual NBA scouts should tell you people need to chill on the hype machine if his high school stats didn't.

[___Rand___]

I have him as more similar to AD than healthy Josh McRoberts

You’re gonna be disappointed

I don't really have set in stone expectations of Flagg yet. Since there's typically limited footage (beyond mixtapes/highlights) of high school players, I never feel a strong sense of anything besides how much more big and athletic they are than a normal high school kid.

That's just it. I haven't seen a full game of him against better competition. Kid's got some skills for someone his age for sure. He's not 6'10" YET based on that USA scrimmage tape, but he's close to it, and he's got a full summer and fall to grow into his projected height. I'll watch him against college competition and make a judgement then.

[Mbrahv0528]

Last time I really heard guys hyping up a high school kid for playing well in half effort pro runs, being a physically special defensive monster, and getting drafted 1st overall from Duke, we got Marvin Bagley

Of course Bagley got exposed (defensively) in college, Flagg may or may not

I can see Cooper's skillsets and why he's being touted best talent in a few years. It is impressive that a high school sr can hang with all-stars from the NBA. But you're right, the Senior team USA weren't playing seriously at all. This was non-sense story made up to hype up Cooper.

You guys are drunk if you really think they willingly let a 17 year old kid upstage them. That's not how those dudes roll.

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[Mbrahv0528]

I don't know if he's 6'10" because standing next to Bam who's 6'9", Cooper looks slightly shorter. I think he's 6'8". Which is still tall for someone with his skillset.

13 is Bam. 31 is cooper.

Except Bam is standing a good a half a foot further out to the basket than Flagg is, which would mean they are the same height or Flagg is taller.

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Basically impossible to guess height from photos where the subjects are standing at different depth points. Might as well say the ref is 7'8" and AD is 9 feet tall compared to Flagg.

Agreed, but I was just giving a counterpoint to the post I quoted who was pretty confident he could team heights based on that picture.

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[JustBuzzin]

Flagg is gonna be this years Caitlin Clark isn't he?

[7r5ur]

USA Basketball already listed Cooper Flagg at 6-8. He's not 6-10. These guys always have slightly juiced height numbers. He's 17 though, may he'll grow into it.

[bigboi]

Flagg is gonna be this years Caitlin Clark isn't he?

Nah. Not anywhere near Clark as a player

[azcatz11]

Flagg is gonna be this years Caitlin Clark isn't he?

Welcome to the dark side bro

[bigboi]

They play nothing alike. MPJ was a bouncy sharpshooter who was an extremely high volume scorer and was not known for his defense or facilitating.

Flagg is an elite defender and many think of him as one of the better defensive prospects to come out of American high school since AD. Flagg is also more of a fill up the stat sheet kind of player, not a high volume scorer. His 3pt shot is viewed as one of the weaker aspects of his game.

MPJ before the back injuries was a stud in high school. I just think him and Flagg are almost polar opposite kinds of players coming out of high school.

This is exactly what Flagg is touted to be. His handle is unimpressive and his distribution ability is unimpressive.

Uhm, no.... that is not what he is touted to be at all....

Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

[OkcSinceSGA]

From the limited film I've watched I like the KG comp. The main difference between he does far less back to the basket, but KG was primarily a faceup guy anyway. My one concern from watching is his first step and speed don't look NBA worthy, but film can be misleading. Obviously Jokic is slow as hell and the best player in the game, so it's not everything, but as a wing I hope he works on the first step.

[12footrim]

USA Basketball already listed Cooper Flagg at 6-8. He's not 6-10. These guys always have slightly juiced height numbers. He's 17 though, may he'll grow into it.

I'm more interested in what he's weighing in at these days, as it pertains to trying to project him next season in college basketball. A skinny kid can hit a couple of stepback three pointers on anyone, which was pretty much what the reports said he did. That's not even his game, he made 36 in 33 games in high school on a shorter line. That's not dominating, or even beating them off the dribble a couple of times if you are 6-8 200lbs playing in the post or SF.

I heard the CBS guys talking about him today and considering how dominate he would be. He's listed anywhere from 195 to 205 pounds from what I've seen. So 6-8 or 6-9 and 200lb pounds the way he plays around the rim is a bean pole. I just don't see how that works at the level some people think it will.

I'm sure he will get some blocks regardless, and eventually, he will gain weight, but not in the next 3 months before the season, I just don't see him crushing college basketball and 5th year super seniors. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'll believe a 17 year old 200lb post tweener that average 16, 7, 4 in high school is dominating when I see it I guess.

[UcanUwill]

This is exactly what Flagg is touted to be. His handle is unimpressive and his distribution ability is unimpressive.

Uhm, no.... that is not what he is touted to be at all....

Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...

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People praying for this dudes downfall makes me laugh.

[JustBuzzin]

This is exactly what Flagg is touted to be. His handle is unimpressive and his distribution ability is unimpressive.

Uhm, no.... that is not what he is touted to be at all....

Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

[12footrim]

Uhm, no.... that is not what he is touted to be at all....

Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...

I think you hope he's Andrei Kirilenko with better three point shooting eventually and go from there. That seems like one of the most positive realistic outcomes IMO. That would be a great career and worth #1 pick too. However is that really the style of player who leads a team to the championship though as the best player top option in this offensive-driven version of the NBA? He seems more like a good fit guy, than a guy you build your team around like Luka or SGA etc.

[JustBuzzin]

People praying for this dudes downfall makes me laugh.

Try dealing with this for 2 decades.

King James still waiting to fall off the cliff.

[12footrim]

People praying for this dudes downfall makes me laugh.

Try dealing with this for 2 decades.

King James still waiting to fall off the cliff.

You really think LeBron and Flagg are comparable? Seriously. This is what I'm talking about.

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Nowhere near as hyped. I’d argue Zion was more hyped than Flagg.

[JustBuzzin]

People praying for this dudes downfall makes me laugh.

Try dealing with this for 2 decades.

King James still waiting to fall off the cliff.

You really think LeBron and Flagg are comparable? Seriously. This is what I'm talking about.

Brudda what are you talking about?

I made a statement about people praying on LeBron downfall for 2 decades and you turned that into they are comparable.

You making up stuff just so you can go off lmao

Chill out brudda.

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Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...

I think you hope he's Andrei Kirilenko with better three point shooting eventually and go from there. That seems like one of the most positive realistic outcomes IMO. That would be a great career and worth #1 pick too. However is that really the style of player who leads a team to the championship though as the best player top option in this offensive-driven version of the NBA? He seems more like a good fit guy, than a guy you build your team around like Luka or SGA etc.

So you disagree with the KG and AK47 comparisons.

Who do you think he most compares to?

I’m legitimately asking because I haven’t even really looked too far into him.