Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

[robillionaire]

We ain’t getting him anyway. All these wasted keystrokes….like tears in rain lol

Yep it’s been confirmed we are getting towns now.

[spree2kawhi]

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Even if we wanted to I Don't think we could offer 3 FRPS...so it isn't us

I wish it was us lol

[KnixinSix]

KAT rumors probably WWW leaking stuff to make it look like he still has a function, squeeze another year or two out of Dolan

KAT is interesting because he definitely improved defensively last year. And going over the cap is mitigated by if you have a 'locked-in' team.

KAT gives you a guy that can play 4 or 5 for you and is locked up contractually for 4 more years. Randle is about to be a FA in 1 year.

I'm not saying I would do it but man, the team wouldn't be missing much, if we brought him on board.

We would have potential 40% 3 point shooters 1 to 5. That's insane.

[mpharris36]

Hoopshype says the Knicks are interested in Bertans. Could be worse, but also better.

where is bertans playing...certainly not small ball 5

He’s a stretch 5 obviously. Career 39.6 3P%

Hes never played 5 like ever. He is a big wing. He can't rebound or defend. So you can have him guard 5 which means he isn't a stretch 5.

[mpharris36]

We ain’t getting him anyway. All these wasted keystrokes….like tears in rain lol

Ahhh this sounds familiar

[sol537]

Deuce plus a future 2nd for Kessler… is the most I’d pay.

[spree8]

Take this with a grain of salt...CP from KnicksFanTV says knicks still want KAT. Don't shoot the messenger...just was listening to his live stream while working and he seemed pretty adamant...more adamant then I have ever heard him.

Says the knicks wont risk losing Randle for nothing especially since they are offering Brunson an extension...and Randle is extension eligible this year as well. Big tell if they don't offer him an extension.

Obviously Randle + Mitch pretty much work financially...but I don't know how to feel. Offensively the floor would be spaced like crazy and you could have death lineups like Brunson/DD/Mikal/OG/KAT...that would basically be what BOS can put out there on a nightly basis in terms of 5 elite shooters.

Just something to keep an eye on...but gain of salt obviously.

So that’s who he was talking about when hinting at it the past few days. Hmm

I kinda prefer Randle and his bully ball ability over Towns’ elite 3pt shooting, no Mitch and putting OG at the 4 full time, but I dunno. Definitely something to think about. Towns coming back home might make him hit another gear he wouldn’t have playing in Minny too.

Thibs tho, man, that guy had some epic freak outs coaching Towns tho. Dunno how it’d work out this time between them two and if he’d let Towns play the way he wants either. Tough choice.

[Guano]

idk why im doing it. i promised myself rj was the last time i'd go to war over anyone

It's the offseason.

Arguing about the back up C on the jazz checks out for this place.

And it's better than arguing about Gallo vs Chandler.

And if im being honest, I'm looking forward to the og vs mikal days.

Mikal > OG

Maybe cause of health. But og is a better defender who can guard more positions. he also showed his bag during that pacers series before going down. If he can stay healthy all year.

Mikal < og

[mpharris36]

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[VirginiaKnickFan]

I would still get Kessler if the price is fair.

There is no such thing as a "fair price" with Ainge. Any mention of interest in Utah players is a complete waste of time as you would to deal with Ainge, the pick horder.

[mpharris36]

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point blank precious with the way mitch never makes it through a season and might not be able to play in post season games is not enough.

[KnixinSix]

Take this with a grain of salt...CP from KnicksFanTV says knicks still want KAT. Don't shoot the messenger...just was listening to his live stream while working and he seemed pretty adamant...more adamant then I have ever heard him.

Says the knicks wont risk losing Randle for nothing especially since they are offering Brunson an extension...and Randle is extension eligible this year as well. Big tell if they don't offer him an extension.

Obviously Randle + Mitch pretty much work financially...but I don't know how to feel. Offensively the floor would be spaced like crazy and you could have death lineups like Brunson/DD/Mikal/OG/KAT...that would basically be what BOS can put out there on a nightly basis in terms of 5 elite shooters.

Just something to keep an eye on...but gain of salt obviously.

So that’s who he was talking about when hinting at it the past few days. Hmm

I kinda prefer Randle and his bully ball ability over Towns’ elite 3pt shooting, no Mitch and putting OG at the 4 full time, but I dunno. Definitely something to think about. Towns coming back home might make him hit another gear he wouldn’t have playing in Minny too.

Thibs tho, man, that guy had some epic freak outs coaching Towns tho. Dunno how it’d work out this time between them two and if he’d let Towns play the way he wants either. Tough choice.

Depending on who you talk to
Towns is arguably more a team player than Randle.

And Towns is locked in for 4 more years. We could possibly keep the core + OG and Towns for 3-4 years strong.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

So reading the tea leaves did the Knicks offer Ainge the two protected picks and they said no?

I doubt they even bothered to.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Take this with a grain of salt...CP from KnicksFanTV says knicks still want KAT. Don't shoot the messenger...just was listening to his live stream while working and he seemed pretty adamant...more adamant then I have ever heard him.

Says the knicks wont risk losing Randle for nothing especially since they are offering Brunson an extension...and Randle is extension eligible this year as well. Big tell if they don't offer him an extension.

Obviously Randle + Mitch pretty much work financially...but I don't know how to feel. Offensively the floor would be spaced like crazy and you could have death lineups like Brunson/DD/Mikal/OG/KAT...that would basically be what BOS can put out there on a nightly basis in terms of 5 elite shooters.

Just something to keep an eye on...but gain of salt obviously.

So that’s who he was talking about when hinting at it the past few days. Hmm

I kinda prefer Randle and his bully ball ability over Towns’ elite 3pt shooting, no Mitch and putting OG at the 4 full time, but I dunno. Definitely something to think about. Towns coming back home might make him hit another gear he wouldn’t have playing in Minny too.

Thibs tho, man, that guy had some epic freak outs coaching Towns tho. Dunno how it’d work out this time between them two and if he’d let Towns play the way he wants either. Tough choice.

Depending on who you talk to
Towns is arguably more a team player than Randle.

And Towns is locked in for 4 more years. We could possibly keep the core + OG and Towns for 3-4 years strong.

You're dreaming if you think they take on Town's contract.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

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point blank precious with the way mitch never makes it through a season and might not be able to play in post season games is not enough.

Tommy Beer with his astute reasoning.

[G_K_F]

I like Precious but he has bad hands.

Mitch's hands aren't much better.

We need a big man who can at least catch the ball and make a play sometimes.

[KnixinSix]

So reading the tea leaves did the Knicks offer Ainge the two protected picks and they said no?

I doubt they even bothered to.

Sounds like it. Because Kessler is probably not quite worth 2 unprotected firsts.

[KnixinSix]

So that’s who he was talking about when hinting at it the past few days. Hmm

I kinda prefer Randle and his bully ball ability over Towns’ elite 3pt shooting, no Mitch and putting OG at the 4 full time, but I dunno. Definitely something to think about. Towns coming back home might make him hit another gear he wouldn’t have playing in Minny too.

Thibs tho, man, that guy had some epic freak outs coaching Towns tho. Dunno how it’d work out this time between them two and if he’d let Towns play the way he wants either. Tough choice.

Depending on who you talk to
Towns is arguably more a team player than Randle.

And Towns is locked in for 4 more years. We could possibly keep the core + OG and Towns for 3-4 years strong.

You're dreaming if you think they take on Town's contract.

Not dreaming as I'm fine keeping Randle but CP was apparently adamantly reporting this. And he's locked in for 4 years. Randle can bolt after this year if he wants.

[JayTWill]

iHart has nothing to do with anything. He agreed to a deal that was a bet on himself. He won the bet because OKC had the money to spend. That's not poor asset management.

I hate the 2031 pick in the Mikal deal but, that's about it.

ObI is a bench player. No one is thinking about him or Grimes.

The team has gone from 21 wins to 50 wins. They made mistakes along the way but, here we are with a title contender for the first time in a very long time. We should be competing at the top of the league for several more years. So, being able to question the teams asset management is fine but, credit is due for where they took this team in a few short years. No GM has been able to do anything like this without destroying the future in over two decades.

I'm not saying everything they have done is bad. But you do imply lots is bad.

They have done some good and some bad. Kind of you to give Rose & Co. some small recognition, considering how little they've done for the team.

Picking up Brunson was a game changer. I give them credit for that but if Dallas had retained Brunson i'm not sure exactly how things would have played out. Wow, manna from the heavens. Of course, you know we didn't do anything to help make that happen. It was never a tentpole of our strategic planning Right?

It's just interesting watching how many Mikal trades were proposed on this board in the last year that gave up less assets and how strongly they were shot down by many other posters probably including yourself to basically only seeing one guy strongly questioning this trade. Could it not be true that some things needed to happen before others, and we needed to see how our current team was performing?

I still remain optimistic for the team as a fan but I can still see how things could have been handled better. I'm sure there's not a single person here who doubts you could have done a far better job than everything our FO has done.

I'm sure I could pull up posts from the last trade deadline where people are crapping on the idea of giving up a ton of picks for a player of Mikal's status as well as people in support of the idea. I would have wanted him too at that point but I doubted I would be willing to pay the cost to acquire him and I never would have thought it would have cost this much so it would be insincere to change my opinion now.

Nothing has changed in my view of the team since last trade deadline. The peak of the team was in January. If the Knicks would have been healthy and made it to the game 7 of the conference finals I may have been willing to pay more for Mikal since the team was obviously so close but i'm still not sure how close they are because we never got to see the team at full strength.

And 99% of the people on these boards think they can do a better job than their team's front office. I don't know why you are so bothered by me sharing my opinion.

[TrueWarrior]

Hear me out:

Julius and Mitch for Karl Towns

Deuce, Detroit 1st, and a couple 2nds for Walker Kessler

Re-sign Precious

Jalen / Tyler
Mikal / Donte
OG / Josh
Karl
Walker / Precious

Karl will play some backup 5. Lots of versatility here.