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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#261 » by 165bows » Tue Jul 9, 2024 6:17 pm

Hal14 wrote:Here's how I would rank the players on the Summer C's..based on a combination of expected mins during SL + probability of getting some rotational mins for the big club this upcoming season + overall how much the C's are prioritizing that player's development in the short term and long term:

1) Queta (got way more rotational mins for the C's last season than anyone else on this squad)

2) Springer (Like Queta, Springer also has 3 yrs of NBA experience and a guaranteed contract with the Celtics. If you include his time in Philly, he had the 2nd most rotational mins last season compared to the others on this squad - after Queta

3) Walsh (2nd year with a guaranteed standard contract with BOS. Did have that 1 game last year where he got some rotational mins..so that's more than the other guys on this squad who are ranked below him)

4) Scheierman (out of the remaining players, he is the only one who has a guaranteed contract and standard roster spot. Plus he was a 1st round pick, so went higher in the draft than the other guys ranked below him

5) Anton Watson (ranked ahead of JD and Peterson because the vibes just seem like he's got a better chance to contribute for the big club than JD and Peterson do. JD and Peterson are only on a 2-way..Watson might get a 2-way but he does at least have a shot at getting that last standard roster spot. Peterson wasn't drafted..Watson and JD were late 2nd round picks but JD has been w/ the C's for 2 yrs and still hasn't contributed anything yet.

6) JD (put him over Peterson because he's younger and was drafted by the C's..Peterson is about 3 yrs older and was not drafted. Both seem like long shots but JD seems like slightly less of a long shot to contribute one day for the big club

7) Peterson (unlike all the other players ranked below him, Peterson is under a standard or 2-way contract with BOS

8) Enaruna (he's the only player left who has a contract with Boston..it's an exhibit 10, but that's still something! Also, he was considered one of the better undrafted players in the 2024 draft..and got signed by BOS literally *right* after the draft ended

9) Ron Harper Jr (doesn't have a contract with BOS, but was on a 2-way with TOR for each of the past 2 seasons..and was considered 1 of the better undrafted players in the 2022 draft...he can play..a guy like this as your 9th best player on a SL team? Stacked

10) Ramsey (no contract with anyone. But the dude has 3 yrs of NBA experience under his belt + 1 additional season where he played G league but not any NBA games..and yet he's still only 23 yrs old..just turned 23 last month too..again, a guy like this as your 10th best player on a SL team? Stacked

11) Killian Tillie (I don't know much about him but he's a center and we need center depth on this team so figure he'll get some mins. And he's played some pro ball overseas

12) Jaelen House (pretty good player..gives us some depth in the back court. Worked out for the Celtics before the 2024 draft. Scheierman was quoted the other day saying that other than him, House has been the most competitive player in camp for this SL team..so def seems pretty darn good if he's your 12th man

13) Cook (I know nothing about him, assuming he's last and will not really play much..)

With that being said, I figure at least for this first game or 2, I figure they'll prioritize mins (and starting lineup spot) for guys who were with the team last season. So wouldn't be surprised if the starting lineup are the 5 guys who were with last year's team since those guys put in the work here last year, have more familiarity with the system/schemes, familiarity playing with each other, etc.

C Queta
PF Walsh
SF Peterson
SG Springer
PG JD

Tillie from what I've gathered was a solid stretch 4/small ball 5 at Gonzaga, sort of a Maxi Kleiber type. Shoots the three well and based on his pre-draft scouting reports, guards the perimeter pretty well also. So a pretty valid archetype. Sounds like he had a string of injuries after he got his shot with the Grizzlies and washed out, he doesn't even have any intl stats on BBref.

Happy to give him a flier though based on his profile, a few sites had him a borderline first round pick a few years back.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#262 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 9, 2024 8:22 pm

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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#264 » by sam_I_am » Tue Jul 9, 2024 8:32 pm

Hal14 wrote:Here's how I would rank the players on the Summer C's..based on likelihood to have a contract with BOS this upcoming season (standard contract being stronger than a 2-way) and likelihood of contributing this season for the big club..and to a lesser extent, factoring in how much playing time they're likely to get for the SL team

1) Queta (got way more rotational mins for the C's last season than anyone else on this squad)

2) Springer (Like Queta, Springer also has 3 yrs of NBA experience and a guaranteed contract with the Celtics. If you include his time in Philly, he had the 2nd most rotational mins last season compared to the others on this squad - after Queta

3) Walsh (2nd year with a guaranteed standard contract with BOS. Did have that 1 game last year where he got some rotational mins..so that's more than the other guys on this squad who are ranked below him)

4) Scheierman (out of the remaining players, he is the only one who has a guaranteed contract and standard roster spot. Plus he was a 1st round pick, so went higher in the draft than the other guys ranked below him

5) Anton Watson (ranked ahead of JD and Peterson because the vibes just seem like he's got a better chance to contribute for the big club than JD and Peterson do. JD and Peterson are only on a 2-way..Watson might get a 2-way but he does at least have a shot at getting that last standard roster spot. Peterson wasn't drafted..Watson and JD were late 2nd round picks but JD has been w/ the C's for 2 yrs and still hasn't contributed anything yet.

6) JD (put him over Peterson because he's younger and was drafted by the C's..Peterson is about 3 yrs older and was not drafted. Both seem like long shots but JD seems like slightly less of a long shot to contribute one day for the big club

7) Peterson (unlike all the other players ranked below him, Peterson is under a standard or 2-way contract with BOS

8) Enaruna (he's the only player left who has a contract with Boston..it's an exhibit 10, but that's still something! Also, he was considered one of the better undrafted players in the 2024 draft..and got signed by BOS literally *right* after the draft ended

9) Ron Harper Jr (doesn't have a contract with BOS, but was on a 2-way with TOR for each of the past 2 seasons..and was considered 1 of the better undrafted players in the 2022 draft...he can play..a guy like this as your 9th best player on a SL team? Stacked

10) Ramsey (no contract with anyone. But the dude has 3 yrs of NBA experience under his belt + 1 additional season where he played G league but not any NBA games..and yet he's still only 23 yrs old..just turned 23 last month too..again, a guy like this as your 10th best player on a SL team? Stacked

11) Killian Tillie (I don't know much about him but he's a center and we need center depth on this team so figure he'll get some mins. And he's played some pro ball overseas

12) Jaelen House (pretty good player..gives us some depth in the back court. Worked out for the Celtics before the 2024 draft. Scheierman was quoted the other day saying that other than him, House has been the most competitive player in camp for this SL team..so def seems pretty darn good if he's your 12th man

13) Cook (I know nothing about him, assuming he's last and will not really play much..)

With that being said, I figure at least for this first game or 2, I figure they'll prioritize mins (and starting lineup spot) for guys who were with the team last season. So wouldn't be surprised if the starting lineup are the 5 guys who were with last year's team since those guys put in the work here last year, have more familiarity with the system/schemes, familiarity playing with each other, etc.

C Queta
PF Walsh
SF Peterson
SG Springer
PG JD


I like this list but I think Baylor Scheierman should be #2. If he isn’t obviously #2 I’ll be disappointed. I’ll also be disappointed if he is #1 because I’m a big believer in Queta’s potential.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#267 » by threrf23 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:08 pm

165bows wrote:Tillie from what I've gathered was a solid stretch 4/small ball 5 at Gonzaga, sort of a Maxi Kleiber type. Shoots the three well and based on his pre-draft scouting reports, guards the perimeter pretty well also. So a pretty valid archetype. Sounds like he had a string of injuries after he got his shot with the Grizzlies and washed out, he doesn't even have any intl stats on BBref.

Happy to give him a flier though based on his profile, a few sites had him a borderline first round pick a few years back.


He was kind of popular here years back. A few posters wanted us to draft him.

He was an excellent shooter in college. Granted he was a tall guy putting up 3s in a weaker conference where opposing players maybe weren't tall enough to contest his shots, he shot 48% from 3 as an underclassman. Was above 40% all four seasons despite being affected by injury later on I think.

Basically, he projected as a good shooter who was potentially a liability on defense. Like Watson he had a rep as a smart player who did a good job of working around his limitations on D, but he averaged 4.6 fouls per 40 throughout his four years at Gonzaga.

Potentially a great shooter, potentially a passable defender, maybe injury prone. Might have gone lottery in this year's draft simply because he is French.
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Post#268 » by darrendaye » Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:14 pm

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165bows wrote:Tillie from what I've gathered was a solid stretch 4/small ball 5 at Gonzaga, sort of a Maxi Kleiber type. Shoots the three well and based on his pre-draft scouting reports, guards the perimeter pretty well also. So a pretty valid archetype. Sounds like he had a string of injuries after he got his shot with the Grizzlies and washed out, he doesn't even have any intl stats on BBref.

Happy to give him a flier though based on his profile, a few sites had him a borderline first round pick a few years back.


He was kind of popular here years back. A few posters wanted us to draft him.

He was an excellent shooter in college. Granted he was a tall guy putting up 3s in a weaker conference where opposing players maybe weren't tall enough to contest his shots, he shot 48% from 3 as an underclassman. Was above 40% all four seasons despite being affected by injury later on I think.

Basically, he projected as a good shooter who was potentially a liability on defense. Like Watson he had a rep as a smart player who did a good job of working around his limitations on D, but he averaged 4.6 fouls per 40 throughout his four years at Gonzaga.

Potentially a great shooter, potentially a passable defender, maybe injury prone. Might have gone lottery in this year's draft simply because he is French.


LOL, you know I was purposely not touching Tillie in this thread because I knew there were receipts out there. To be fair, he's had tough injury luck/history.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#269 » by snowman » Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:48 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Here's how I would rank the players on the Summer C's..based on likelihood to have a contract with BOS this upcoming season (standard contract being stronger than a 2-way) and likelihood of contributing this season for the big club..and to a lesser extent, factoring in how much playing time they're likely to get for the SL team

1) Queta (got way more rotational mins for the C's last season than anyone else on this squad)

2) Springer (Like Queta, Springer also has 3 yrs of NBA experience and a guaranteed contract with the Celtics. If you include his time in Philly, he had the 2nd most rotational mins last season compared to the others on this squad - after Queta

3) Walsh (2nd year with a guaranteed standard contract with BOS. Did have that 1 game last year where he got some rotational mins..so that's more than the other guys on this squad who are ranked below him)

4) Scheierman (out of the remaining players, he is the only one who has a guaranteed contract and standard roster spot. Plus he was a 1st round pick, so went higher in the draft than the other guys ranked below him

5) Anton Watson (ranked ahead of JD and Peterson because the vibes just seem like he's got a better chance to contribute for the big club than JD and Peterson do. JD and Peterson are only on a 2-way..Watson might get a 2-way but he does at least have a shot at getting that last standard roster spot. Peterson wasn't drafted..Watson and JD were late 2nd round picks but JD has been w/ the C's for 2 yrs and still hasn't contributed anything yet.

6) JD (put him over Peterson because he's younger and was drafted by the C's..Peterson is about 3 yrs older and was not drafted. Both seem like long shots but JD seems like slightly less of a long shot to contribute one day for the big club

7) Peterson (unlike all the other players ranked below him, Peterson is under a standard or 2-way contract with BOS

8) Enaruna (he's the only player left who has a contract with Boston..it's an exhibit 10, but that's still something! Also, he was considered one of the better undrafted players in the 2024 draft..and got signed by BOS literally *right* after the draft ended

9) Ron Harper Jr (doesn't have a contract with BOS, but was on a 2-way with TOR for each of the past 2 seasons..and was considered 1 of the better undrafted players in the 2022 draft...he can play..a guy like this as your 9th best player on a SL team? Stacked

10) Ramsey (no contract with anyone. But the dude has 3 yrs of NBA experience under his belt + 1 additional season where he played G league but not any NBA games..and yet he's still only 23 yrs old..just turned 23 last month too..again, a guy like this as your 10th best player on a SL team? Stacked

11) Killian Tillie (I don't know much about him but he's a center and we need center depth on this team so figure he'll get some mins. And he's played some pro ball overseas

12) Jaelen House (pretty good player..gives us some depth in the back court. Worked out for the Celtics before the 2024 draft. Scheierman was quoted the other day saying that other than him, House has been the most competitive player in camp for this SL team..so def seems pretty darn good if he's your 12th man

13) Cook (I know nothing about him, assuming he's last and will not really play much..)

With that being said, I figure at least for this first game or 2, I figure they'll prioritize mins (and starting lineup spot) for guys who were with the team last season. So wouldn't be surprised if the starting lineup are the 5 guys who were with last year's team since those guys put in the work here last year, have more familiarity with the system/schemes, familiarity playing with each other, etc.

C Queta
PF Walsh
SF Peterson
SG Springer
PG JD


I like this list but I think Baylor Scheierman should be #2. If he isn’t obviously #2 I’ll be disappointed. I’ll also be disappointed if he is #1 because I’m a big believer in Queta’s potential.


I say this with green colored font glasses, but I really expect big things from these 3 players from our summer league team. Here are my hot takes at this point.

Queta:
Going out on a limb here, but I expect that by all-star game break, Queta will have taken most of Kornet's minutes.
Scheierman:
Baylor will work his way into the rotation as our 8th man will and will become one of our second team along with Pritchard, Hauser, Horford and Queta.
Walsh:
Walsh will make that 2nd year leap into spot duty rotation minutes.
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Post#270 » by fallguy » Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:59 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Here's how I would rank the players on the Summer C's..based on likelihood to have a contract with BOS this upcoming season (standard contract being stronger than a 2-way) and likelihood of contributing this season for the big club..and to a lesser extent, factoring in how much playing time they're likely to get for the SL team

1) Queta (got way more rotational mins for the C's last season than anyone else on this squad)

2) Springer (Like Queta, Springer also has 3 yrs of NBA experience and a guaranteed contract with the Celtics. If you include his time in Philly, he had the 2nd most rotational mins last season compared to the others on this squad - after Queta

3) Walsh (2nd year with a guaranteed standard contract with BOS. Did have that 1 game last year where he got some rotational mins..so that's more than the other guys on this squad who are ranked below him)

4) Scheierman (out of the remaining players, he is the only one who has a guaranteed contract and standard roster spot. Plus he was a 1st round pick, so went higher in the draft than the other guys ranked below him

5) Anton Watson (ranked ahead of JD and Peterson because the vibes just seem like he's got a better chance to contribute for the big club than JD and Peterson do. JD and Peterson are only on a 2-way..Watson might get a 2-way but he does at least have a shot at getting that last standard roster spot. Peterson wasn't drafted..Watson and JD were late 2nd round picks but JD has been w/ the C's for 2 yrs and still hasn't contributed anything yet.

6) JD (put him over Peterson because he's younger and was drafted by the C's..Peterson is about 3 yrs older and was not drafted. Both seem like long shots but JD seems like slightly less of a long shot to contribute one day for the big club

7) Peterson (unlike all the other players ranked below him, Peterson is under a standard or 2-way contract with BOS

8) Enaruna (he's the only player left who has a contract with Boston..it's an exhibit 10, but that's still something! Also, he was considered one of the better undrafted players in the 2024 draft..and got signed by BOS literally *right* after the draft ended

9) Ron Harper Jr (doesn't have a contract with BOS, but was on a 2-way with TOR for each of the past 2 seasons..and was considered 1 of the better undrafted players in the 2022 draft...he can play..a guy like this as your 9th best player on a SL team? Stacked

10) Ramsey (no contract with anyone. But the dude has 3 yrs of NBA experience under his belt + 1 additional season where he played G league but not any NBA games..and yet he's still only 23 yrs old..just turned 23 last month too..again, a guy like this as your 10th best player on a SL team? Stacked

11) Killian Tillie (I don't know much about him but he's a center and we need center depth on this team so figure he'll get some mins. And he's played some pro ball overseas

12) Jaelen House (pretty good player..gives us some depth in the back court. Worked out for the Celtics before the 2024 draft. Scheierman was quoted the other day saying that other than him, House has been the most competitive player in camp for this SL team..so def seems pretty darn good if he's your 12th man

13) Cook (I know nothing about him, assuming he's last and will not really play much..)

With that being said, I figure at least for this first game or 2, I figure they'll prioritize mins (and starting lineup spot) for guys who were with the team last season. So wouldn't be surprised if the starting lineup are the 5 guys who were with last year's team since those guys put in the work here last year, have more familiarity with the system/schemes, familiarity playing with each other, etc.

C Queta
PF Walsh
SF Peterson
SG Springer
PG JD


I like this list but I think Baylor Scheierman should be #2. If he isn’t obviously #2 I’ll be disappointed. I’ll also be disappointed if he is #1 because I’m a big believer in Queta’s potential.


I say this with green colored font glasses, but I really expect big things from these 3 players from our summer league team. Here are my hot takes at this point.

Queta:
Going out on a limb here, but I expect that by all-star game break, Queta will have taken most of Kornet's minutes.
Scheierman:
Baylor will work his way into the rotation as our 8th man will and will become one of our second team along with Pritchard, Hauser, Horford and Queta.
Walsh:
Walsh will make that 2nd year leap into spot duty rotation minutes.


That's a best case scenario for all three. It would be huge for us if even one of those happened. But I like the optimism.
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Post#271 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jul 9, 2024 9:59 pm

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Post#272 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 10:17 pm

Bobby manning shares some insight on what he's hearing about each SL player..along with some quotes form Austin Ainge on some of the players..

https://www.clnsmedia.com/celtics-announce-2024-las-vegas-summer-league-roster/

Kind of sounds like Walsh is still a ways away from being ready to contribute significantly for the big club.

Also seems like there's some positive buzz going on about JD..the team like the trajectory he is on..he didn't contribute anything for the big club in year 1 or year 2..but it sounds like there's optimism that he could contribute a bit in year 3..
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Post#275 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:18 am

Baylor is the best player on the Summer League team.
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Post#276 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:21 am

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Post#277 » by shackles10 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 am

Baylor Swift about to go on a 10 day long Vegas tour of nothing but hits! Maybe if Bronny is lucky he’ll get a song written about him once he’s an ex ex-NBA player that is
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Post#278 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:53 am

Why do we have to wait so long and why aren’t the games all b2b with one day in between each b2b?! I need ball, Celts ball! :lol:
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Post#279 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:12 am

Shak_Celts wrote:Why do we have to wait so long and why aren’t the games all b2b with one day in between each b2b?! I need ball, Celts ball! :lol:

lol yeah this waiting is killing me ..and we still have 4 more days to go.
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