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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#281 » by JRoy » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:16 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Think of AK47 with a more consistent jumpshot and offensive mentality. That's Cooper Flagg.


That would be a fantastic player. I see that more than the KG comparisons.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#282 » by CP3nthusiast » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:21 am

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ok, I didn't realize you were specifically referring to CF as the freshman avging 30ppg. In which case I'd agree he would be incredibly highly rated(up there with KD probably and a few others but not above Shaq, DRob, Walton, etc). He wouldn't be 17 doing that though, he'll turn 19 just as his first college season begins. Glenn Robinson also did that as a sophomore but he didn't project as the defensive player Cooper likely will become.


He was born in 2006. He's turning 18 at the end of the year, which means he'll be 18 when the college season ends.


He should be a Sr in high school assuming his age is legit.


Not sure about the NCAA eligibility requirements (Tim Duncan played through his whole freshman season as a 17 year old) but to qualify for the NBA draft, you have to turn 19 by the end of the calendar year, which Flagg will. He'll be the youngest player since Josh Primo if he plays in the season opener.
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Post#284 » by LakerLegend » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:38 am

BDM22 wrote:USA Basketball already listed Cooper Flagg at 6-8. He's not 6-10. These guys always have slightly juiced height numbers. He's 17 though, may he'll grow into it.


Whoa. Gamechanger.
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Post#285 » by DaddyCool19 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:04 am

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BDM22 wrote:USA Basketball already listed Cooper Flagg at 6-8. He's not 6-10. These guys always have slightly juiced height numbers. He's 17 though, may he'll grow into it.


Whoa. Gamechanger.


Don't they get listed w/o shos for the olympics?

6'8 would be ok. He is only 17. Maybe he gets closer to 6'9 which would make him long enough to be a full time 4
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Post#286 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:06 am

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He was born in 2006. He's turning 18 at the end of the year, which means he'll be 18 when the college season ends.


He should be a Sr in high school assuming his age is legit.


Not sure about the NCAA eligibility requirements (Tim Duncan played through his whole freshman season as a 17 year old) but to qualify for the NBA draft, you have to turn 19 by the end of the calendar year, which Flagg will. He'll be the youngest player since Josh Primo if he plays in the season opener.


Yes Primo and Flagg will/were both start their rookie seasons as 18 year olds. They’re a class ahead.

Also he’s still growing so “only” measuring at 6’8” isn’t big deal.
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Post#287 » by nzd07 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:29 am

I can already tell his guy's race is going to be a problem lol, the mainstream media is salivating
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#288 » by rockmanslim » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:32 am

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JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
Coopers never going to be 400lbs


You said prospect which means pre draft. And Zion was superior in pretty much every way other than shooting. His season in Duke, he was viewed as elite offensively, elite defensively, a good passer, and high motor.



17 years old and cooking the national team. You wanna retract your statement?

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GregOden wrote:Cooper looked shorter than Bam (6’8.75) and noticeably shorter than AD (6’9.75) in game. He looked very similar in height to Trayce (6’8.25) and Keegan (6’8) when lined up at the foul line. But hey the kid is young, he could still keep growing.


Stupid question, is there a way to watch that scrimmage, I assume we are talking about team USA camp? How did my guy Nigel Hayes do, did he play?

Dissapointing to hear he is still shoeter than Bam, I thought he would be taller by now.




This is probably the longest footage currently available.


Just watched this video, and I didn't see where he "stole the show" or looked dominant, unless they cut those parts out. :dontknow:
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#289 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:35 am

nzd07 wrote:I can already tell his guy's race is going to be a problem lol, the mainstream media is salivating

He's going to Duke so you know the hype will be extra.

UNC will humble them real quick! 8-)
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Post#290 » by MiltownMadness » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:40 am

rockmanslim wrote:Just watched this video, and I didn't see where he "stole the show" or looked dominant, unless they cut those parts out. :dontknow:

He definitely looked great in that video, I mean he is 17 playing with and against pros
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Post#291 » by UcanUwill » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:42 am

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Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous


He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...


I think you hope he's Andrei Kirilenko with better three point shooting eventually and go from there. That seems like one of the most positive realistic outcomes IMO. That would be a great career and worth #1 pick too. However is that really the style of player who leads a team to the championship though as the best player top option in this offensive-driven version of the NBA? He seems more like a good fit guy, than a guy you build your team around like Luka or SGA etc.


Maybe you are right, but what do you mean leading his team to a championship? I also, probably do not see him as first offensive option on championship tesm, but I see him as best player on championship team. Thats why I compared him to KG, he was exactly that. In think person you describing can be that too.

And obviously, kid can bust and everything, but I think we are being conservative here, because and I mentioned prior, the exciting thing about Flagg is how rapid his game growth is. Defense is already there, by next season, we might even see a top offense. We will see. 2 years his offense was very bad, jump in two years was vomparable to Victor.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#292 » by UcanUwill » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:44 am

nzd07 wrote:I can already tell his guy's race is going to be a problem lol, the mainstream media is salivating


We really do not need SAS level comments here...
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#293 » by Los_29 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:14 am

There are lots of things to like. I don’t like those shot mechanics though. A bit of a slow release as well. Not a can’t miss, generational prospect in my opinion but certainly better than anything this past draft.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#294 » by magee » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:03 am

He's young and protects the ball on his shot.

**** if you're draining 3's over Anthony Davis, you're doing something right.
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Post#295 » by 12footrim » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:46 pm

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He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...


I think you hope he's Andrei Kirilenko with better three point shooting eventually and go from there. That seems like one of the most positive realistic outcomes IMO. That would be a great career and worth #1 pick too. However is that really the style of player who leads a team to the championship though as the best player top option in this offensive-driven version of the NBA? He seems more like a good fit guy, than a guy you build your team around like Luka or SGA etc.


Maybe you are right, but what do you mean leading his team to a championship? I also, probably do not see him as first offensive option on championship tesm, but I see him as best player on championship team. Thats why I compared him to KG, he was exactly that. In think person you describing can be that too.

And obviously, kid can bust and everything, but I think we are being conservative here, because and I mentioned prior, the exciting thing about Flagg is how rapid his game growth is. Defense is already there, by next season, we might even see a top offense. We will see. 2 years his offense was very bad, jump in two years was vomparable to Victor.


The NBA had changed into a much more offensive league now and it was a much different NBA back then. Teams played much bigger, they shot much less threes etc etc. You could get away with a KG at PF. Today Perkins would certainly wouldn't start and KG would be a center like he was a few years later.

KG could do that at 3 inches and 40lbs bigger than Flagg and you can impact defense much more from the center spot. I don't think in 2025+ a 6-8 thin guy really impacts defense that much playing PF. Centers like Gobert are the ones that impact defense enough to make a team a title contender, and he's never going to be a full time center. It's also questionable how much even the best defensive player in the world or one ever like Gobert would even really make you a contender if he's your best or most important player. It's just a very different NBA driven by wings and primary ball handlers or offensive centers who are scoring and assisting a lot, and where three's are almost necessary for anyone but centers.

If you aren't a plus plus three point shooter you better be assisting like a madman or doing other things on offense at a high level IMO. Flagg is just a weird prospect if you think his value is mostly defense and he's just a passable on ball guy, shooter etc. It's going to be really hard to be a generational talent if you project more like an over qualified three and D tweener wing/ PF.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#296 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:49 pm

That haircut makes him look like the Mustard and Bud Light guy from youtube.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#297 » by Ayt » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:51 pm

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bigboi wrote:Flagg doesn’t impress me at all lol. I still don’t see the hype. His high school tape reminded me of high school MPJ


They play nothing alike. MPJ was a bouncy sharpshooter who was an extremely high volume scorer and was not known for his defense or facilitating.

Flagg is an elite defender and many think of him as one of the better defensive prospects to come out of American high school since AD. Flagg is also more of a fill up the stat sheet kind of player, not a high volume scorer. His 3pt shot is viewed as one of the weaker aspects of his game.

MPJ before the back injuries was a stud in high school. I just think him and Flagg are almost polar opposite kinds of players coming out of high school.


This is exactly what Flagg is touted to be. His handle is unimpressive and his distribution ability is unimpressive.

All I see with Flagg is a high motor guy. I don’t view his athleticism as elite at all either. He looks ridiculously slow and not slow like Luka who has elite change of direction. Just looks like a generic player


You think he's like MPJ but all you see is a high motor guy???????
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#298 » by Ayt » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:02 pm

Hair Jordan wrote:
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Johnny Dawkins, Billy Owens, Waymon Tisdale, Pervis Ellison, Stacy King etc were all “can’t miss” prospects who missed big time :lol:


Wow, you telling me not every prospect pan out? Gee thats crazy... If you dont like the kid, give good scouting report, not just be usual Hair Jordan guy, aka a troll.


I don’t scout 17 year old boys. Sorry. His highlight reel tells me he’s a poor man’s Brent Barry at best with less athleticism and more height. Barry was a nice role player who could hit 3’s and dunk from the FT line but never sniffed multiple All Star teams or an All NBA type of career. Let’s be honest here, if Flagg was a black kid nobody would be impressed. He’d be just another prospect. People pay attention cause he’s a white kid with a little athleticism. Lots of white kids excel in Duke’s college ball system but don’t do sh-t in the NBA (Gminski, Alarie, Bilas, Laettner, Parks, Hurley, Redick) etc. Hitting a couple buckets against Team USA in what amounts to a glorified walk thru doesn’t impress me. That was like a summer league game yesterday. People need to get a fuc-ing grip :lol:


I'd love to read what this dude thought about Luka before his draft. :lol:
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Post#299 » by jfs1000d » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:13 pm

Kid is gonna be great.


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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#300 » by GSWFan1994 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:15 pm

At 6'8'' and 17 years old, he's certainly not done growing. I know for a fact, I grew 2 inches after I went to college.

Most importantly, guy has huge, broad, AD-esque shoulders. He could put up a lot of muscle when he's physically mature.

Plus that pterodactyl-like wingspan.

Think about a 17 year old guy playing in the same court with some of the current best NBA players.

And not only that, at some moments he was the best player on the court.

The sky is the limit.

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