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Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#461 » by Guano » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:39 am

Fat wrote:
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Fat wrote:KAT would be the best player on the team


:lol:
Your posting quality really peaked on a blow up doll thread.


Towns 4 allstar appearances
Brunson 1 allstar appearance

Towns WCF
Brunson 2nd round exit

I’m just saying


Just saying some nonsense.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#462 » by Guano » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:46 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Surprised that the wolves would be open to this right after a conference finals run. You’d figure they’d want to run it back and see if they can make the finals before moving things around


Trying to dump their weak link


He’s was an absolute nightmare in the western conference finals. Hadn’t hit a 3 all series was trying step backs and pulling up behind screens. Normally I don’t care about shot selection of players not on the Knicks but he had me yelling at the tv


And then hid from the media during it. He isn't built for the knicks.

And on top of all that playing him as a 5 would be terrible. I don't care how great our wing defense is if we don't have a big who protects the paint.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#463 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:52 am

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SelbyCobra wrote:I'm wagering all the monies right now that If KAT becomes a Knick he gets in a physical confrontation with Josh Hart at some point.




Seems like a good wager. That said, Josh doesn't seem to have a temper.


No, no - I'm wagering TOWNS blow up and tries to fight him. Josh is an unbridled assh*le, especially about picking on/bullying type stuff, by all accounts of those that are close to him, and KAT is both an easy target and sensitive about that kind of stuff.

Donte, Jalen, and Mikal have all said earnestly that they hated Josh when they met him because he was just such an assh*le. Donte even tried to kill him in the weight room at Nova :lol:. He's the classic snarky, aggressively disrespectful to be funny, why are you so mad, go ahead and do something about it then, type guy.

I think there's a great chance he's the natural successor to Jimmy's work with KAT. Like, if Jimmy was Pusha, Hart is Kendrick. :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#464 » by Davis18 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:24 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:
Davis18 wrote:3 way deal with NO might work.
Mitch to NO and Randle & Herb Jones + filler to Min.

Mitch / Randle / OG / Mikal / Brunson
vs.
KAT / OG / Mikal / Divo / Brunson


Top team is better than the bottom team. If we have to give up Randle and Mitch then it’s not worth it.

We either trade for an upgrade at the 4 to replace Randle which is basically only giannis at this point. Or we try to move Mitch and deuce for an upgrade at the 5


Bottom team definitely has more offense.
We were basically playing 4 against 5 when Mitch was on the floor.

We are not getting Giannis and what C upgrade can we get for Mitch & Deuce?
I don't mind keeping the roster as is with back up 5 but I definitely will mind paying Randle max money.. NO freakin way.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#465 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:50 am

Fat wrote:
Guano wrote:
Fat wrote:KAT would be the best player on the team


:lol:
Your posting quality really peaked on a blow up doll thread.


Towns 4 allstar appearances
Brunson 1 allstar appearance

Towns WCF
Brunson 2nd round exit

I’m just saying


What does this have to do with blow up dolls? Give the people what they want!!!
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#466 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:09 am

This is what most Knicks fans think about a KAT trade...
…and what melo thinks about salad
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#467 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:15 am

Suddenly we’re talking KAT again :lol: I don’t wanna hear any BS about how nonsensical this is. It isn’t. It makes a lot of sense.

Is it a perfect trade? No.
Is KAT a complete player? No.

But…

Is Randle a perfect player? No.
Is Randle better? No.
Is the contract really that bad in the new NBA? No.
Is Randle’s extension going to feel great? No.

If you look past the numbers, a player like Towns is what we need basketball-wise. Unselfish, huge frame, legit 7-footer, pure shooter, unlimited talent.

Most importantly, and I want to stress this, Thibs knows all the players involved really well and if the Knicks do this deal, you can assume that Thibodeau signed off on this and maybe even pushed for it, so y‘all should really stfu and live with the fact that Towns may simply be better. I’ll do the same if non of it happens.

I’m not a fan of Towns and Randle is even more likable to me despite all the foolish turnovers. But Towns is clearly better.

I doubt anything that big really goes down after all we’ve already seen, but it does make perfect sense for both teams involved.
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Post#468 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:56 am

Davis18 wrote:
NiceLikeChrist wrote:
Davis18 wrote:3 way deal with NO might work.
Mitch to NO and Randle & Herb Jones + filler to Min.

Mitch / Randle / OG / Mikal / Brunson
vs.
KAT / OG / Mikal / Divo / Brunson


Top team is better than the bottom team. If we have to give up Randle and Mitch then it’s not worth it.

We either trade for an upgrade at the 4 to replace Randle which is basically only giannis at this point. Or we try to move Mitch and deuce for an upgrade at the 5


Bottom team definitely has more offense.
We were basically playing 4 against 5 when Mitch was on the floor.

We are not getting Giannis and what C upgrade can we get for Mitch & Deuce?
I don't mind keeping the roster as is with back up 5 but I definitely will mind paying Randle max money.. NO freakin way.

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Post#469 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:44 am

spree2kawhi wrote:Suddenly we’re talking KAT again :lol: I don’t wanna hear any BS about how nonsensical this is. It isn’t. It makes a lot of sense.

Is it a perfect trade? No.
Is KAT a complete player? No.

But…

Is Randle a perfect player? No.
Is Randle better? No.
Is the contract really that bad in the new NBA? No.
Is Randle’s extension going to feel great? No.

If you look past the numbers, a player like Towns is what we need basketball-wise. Unselfish, huge frame, legit 7-footer, pure shooter, unlimited talent.

Most importantly, and I want to stress this, Thibs knows all the players involved really well and if the Knicks do this deal, you can assume that Thibodeau signed off on this and maybe even pushed for it, so y‘all should really stfu and live with the fact that Towns may simply be better. I’ll do the same if non of it happens.

I’m not a fan of Towns and Randle is even more likable to me despite all the foolish turnovers. But Towns is clearly better.

I doubt anything that big really goes down after all we’ve already seen, but it does make perfect sense for both teams involved.


The big piece here few are talking about is the potential reality of the situation.

What if the team either doesn't like the spectre of a potential Randle extension -or- even more importantly thinks Randle could bolt after his contract is over after this season?

So it becomes basically lose Randle for nothing after the season or get very little in an S&T or get KAT who is under contract for 4 more years.

In that case, give me KAT for 4 more years vs Randle for 1.

KAT is not perfect by any means but while he didn't have a great Western finals he was good before that and Randle's postseason performances career wise probably are even worse.

That said,
If I knew I can lock up Randle for another few years I would probably keep him. However if not give me KAT for 4 vs losing Randle after 1 for nothing or very little.
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Post#470 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:01 am

This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
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Post#471 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:28 am

3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter

That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.
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Post#472 » by Knick4Real » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:36 am

A lot of posters are thinking under the old rules. However, the new rules will force a lot of teams to make certain moves they never would have made a year or more ago.

Minny is carrying too much salary and likely needs to dump someone.

KNICKS are contemplating if they should/can pay Julius $300 mil while paying everyone else AND extending Brunson AND staying under the aprons.

KNICKS also need size and shooters who space the floor and can go up against Boston and Philly (which got better this year).

With that said, it's clear something is cookin' in the KNICKS' kitchen. The addition of Rokas to the front office makes me think it's KAT -- but, it could be someone(s) else. I'm pretty sure we won't keep the team as constructed today. We're not done making moves.
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Post#473 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:38 am

spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter

That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

i’d rather just roll with towns at the 5 if this is what happens.. richard isn’t exactly a rim protector
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Post#474 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:40 am

Knick4Real wrote:A lot of posters are thinking under the old rules. However, the new rules will force a lot of teams to make certain moves they never would have made a year or more ago.

Minny is carrying too much salary and likely needs to dump someone.

KNICKS are contemplating if they should/can pay Julius $300 mil while paying everyone else AND extending Brunson AND staying under the aprons.

KNICKS also need size and shooters who space the floor and can go up against Boston and Philly (which got better this year).

With that said, it's clear something is cookin' in the KNICKS' kitchen. The addition of Rokas to the front office makes me think it's KAT -- but, it could be someone(s) else. I'm pretty sure we won't keep the team as constructed today. We're not done making moves.

Towns makes sense, even financially because after extensions Randle and Robinson are too expensive.

It could also be Markkanen, whose extension should be a lot cheaper than Randle’s.

Either way, once Randle is extended, he’ll be negative value.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#475 » by Knick4Real » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:50 am

DaGawd wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter

That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

i’d rather just roll with towns at the 5 if this is what happens.. richard isn’t exactly a rim protector


If Julius and Mitch Rob are traded for Towns and you want him to be the 5 (but no Richards), who's his back up?
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Post#476 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:53 am

Knick4Real wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

i’d rather just roll with towns at the 5 if this is what happens.. richard isn’t exactly a rim protector


If Julius and Mitch Rob are traded for Towns and you want him to be the 5 (but no Richards), who's his back up?

No, towns wouldn’t and couldn’t be the full-time center.
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Post#477 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:58 am

Knick4Real wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

i’d rather just roll with towns at the 5 if this is what happens.. richard isn’t exactly a rim protector


If Julius and Mitch Rob are traded for Towns and you want him to be the 5 (but no Richards), who's his back up?

richards is the backup in my proposal
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Post#478 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:00 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter

That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

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Post#479 » by Moose » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:16 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter


I have my doubts. Unless Utah isn't interested in a Kessler for McBride deal, why would you bother trading for a potentially worse player with a less friendly contract?

Or just wait for an in-season trade or opportunity to arise?

McBride may only get 15 minutes per game, but that's assuming everyone is healthy and playing well.
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Post#480 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy is pretty connected.. not sure how I feel about this
Read on Twitter

That’s good.

Brunson
Bridges, DDV
OG, Hart
Towns, OG
Richards, Towns

You’ll like it after all.

no


How are the Knicks suppose to get BOTH Richards and Towns? My money is one we end up with neither.

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