2024 NBA Summer League! Las Vegas (Championship game tonight July 22: Grizzlies vs Heat) HEAT WIN!

[Ben-N1ce]

Bronny is going to be good once he grows, gets a jumper, offensive bag, becomes a Playmaker and is surrounded by stars. He's raw and probably didn't have the resources other players had. Time will tell.

[playa-hater]

Bronny is going to be good once he grows, gets a jumper, offensive bag, becomes a Playmaker and is surrounded by stars. He's raw and probably didn't have the resources other players had. Time will tell.

Once Bronny loses his hairline like Pops, he will be unstoppable!

[jordanwilliams6]

So Bronny is 6”2 and can’t even handle the smallest pg duties (bringing the ball up the court, setting the offense), he can’t shoot, can’t run decent pick and roll and is a bad finisher.

He just isn’t very skilled right now and it’s especially concerning when he’s had world class training from an early age

Can someone list me the 6”2 3 and D guys that fit this description?


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He’s a decent jumper away from being Jevon Carter IMO.

[PushDaRock]

So Bronny is 6”2 and can’t even handle the smallest pg duties (bringing the ball up the court, setting the offense), he can’t shoot, can’t run decent pick and roll and is a bad finisher.

He just isn’t very skilled right now and it’s especially concerning when he’s had world class training from an early age

Can someone list me the 6”2 3 and D guys that fit this description?


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He's also very physically developed already, there's likely not much projection there. He's a top tier athlete but it doesn't translate over on the court. His first step is non existent and he has no wiggle in his game. Only time you see the athleticism is when he gets a head of steam on a fast break dunk or chase down block, but those situations don't arise too often in a game.

The likelihood of him being a late bloomer seems pretty low given he's already mature physically and been playing basketball since birth with the best development possible. He's basically going to need to be an elite defender to overcome the limitations in his offensive game to have a consistent role in the NBA.

[Heat_team02]

Keshad Johnson was the best player in that game. Outplayed Knecht. Went 21/9/3/3/3 with no turnovers and 63% TS

Not sure if he's a more athletic PJ Tucker yet but he's not too far off.

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[amcoolio]

Am I in the twilight zone? Bronny's absolute ceiling is Davion Mitchell, who is already salary dumped despite being on a smallish rookie contract. Davion is a better defender than Bronny. What are people talking about in the last few pages.

[GSWFan1994]

Even if Bronny was in the ultra elite god tier of NBA athletes and an outstanding defender (both of which he's not), he still can't put the ball on the floor, playmake/finish, and also can't shoot from outside at a decent rate... on top of it he's 6'2''.

If he were, let's say, 6'5'' or better, he could have a chance to stick. Now at 6'2'', it's very difficult for him.

For perspective: if Avery Bradley were to come to the NBA in this year's draft, would he have a chance to have a 5+ year career? And I'm being generous, Bradley was much more skilled than Bronny at 19 year old.

[Catchall]

Man, the Jazz have too much talent to look as terrible as they have the last two nights. They've got Collier, Kessler, Filipowski, Keyonte George and Cody Williams out there and nobody looks good.

Jazz had a slow start but looked really good in the 2nd half. Keyonte was efficient for 31 pts (9/15). Hendricks and Sensabaugh with 19 and 18. Collier looked good with 13/4/3/2s.

[og15]

Even if Bronny was in the ultra elite god tier of NBA athletes and an outstanding defender (both of which he's not), he still can't put the ball on the floor, playmake/finish, and also can't shoot from outside at a decent rate... on top of it he's 6'2''.

If he were, let's say, 6'5'' or better, he could have a chance to stick. Now at 6'2'', it's very difficult for him.

For perspective: if Avery Bradley were to come to the NBA in this year's draft, would he have a chance to have a 5+ year career? And I'm being generous, Bradley was much more skilled than Bronny at 19 year old.

Avery Bradley would, but Avery Bradley is maybe a little taller, and longer, still averaged 11/3/2 in college on 37.5% 3PT.

He shot 40.7% 3PT on 54 attempts in year 2. In year 4 he averaged 15/4/1 on 44/40/80.

If Bronny can make it to Avery Bradley level that would be good for him, we're not sure he can make it to that level yet, a lot of work to go to even get there.

[Upperclass]

Avery Bradley wouldve been the #1 pick in the '24 draft.. Bronny has Bradley traits.. he needs to learn the pro game and he'll be fine on the floor with Bron in the same way Austin Reaves works on the Lakers with Bron but nowhere else

[durden_tyler]

i see even the Summer Leagues, Vegas' long arms has an effect on these teams. Not really surprising but this is the status of your American sports leagues (not just NBA).

Jazz won by 8 points today (Spread was 7.5, i won this bet.)
Warriors-Kings went under (181), line was 184.5 and the "over" was trending all game long before both teams decided not to score in the 2nd half/4th quarter - i lost this bet.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Avery Bradley wouldve been the #1 pick in the '24 draft.. Bronny has Bradley traits.. he needs to learn the pro game and he'll be fine on the floor with Bron in the same way Austin Reaves works on the Lakers with Bron but nowhere else

imagine going on an NBA forum and typing this

Avery Bradley was selected #19 overall. He averaged a whopping 1.7 pts per game his rookie season as a 20 y/o and then 7.6 ppg his 2nd season. People just say the most outlandish stuff on here

[whatisacenter]

Am I in the twilight zone? Bronny's absolute ceiling is Davion Mitchell, who is already salary dumped despite being on a smallish rookie contract. Davion is a better defender than Bronny. What are people talking about in the last few pages.

I too have no clue why people are hyping him up.

He has no size.

He is not the quickest.

He is an average athlete.

He is not a shooter.

I don't think he will be able to defend well against real NBA players.

[giberish]

i see even the Summer Leagues, Vegas' long arms has an effect on these teams. Not really surprising but this is the status of your American sports leagues (not just NBA).

Jazz won by 8 points today (Spread was 7.5, i won this bet.)
Warriors-Kings went under (181), line was 184.5 and the "over" was trending all game long before both teams decided not to score in the 2nd half/4th quarter - i lost this bet.

If you're betting money you care about on summer league exhibitions, then you have a very serious problem.

[durden_tyler]

i see even the Summer Leagues, Vegas' long arms has an effect on these teams. Not really surprising but this is the status of your American sports leagues (not just NBA).

Jazz won by 8 points today (Spread was 7.5, i won this bet.)
Warriors-Kings went under (181), line was 184.5 and the "over" was trending all game long before both teams decided not to score in the 2nd half/4th quarter - i lost this bet.

If you're betting money you care about on summer league exhibitions, then you have a very serious problem.

Don't worry it's just cheap $10-$20 bets. The serious bets roll in for the Summer League championships. LOL

[KillMonger]

Even if Bronny was in the ultra elite god tier of NBA athletes and an outstanding defender (both of which he's not), he still can't put the ball on the floor, playmake/finish, and also can't shoot from outside at a decent rate... on top of it he's 6'2''.

If he were, let's say, 6'5'' or better, he could have a chance to stick. Now at 6'2'', it's very difficult for him.

For perspective: if Avery Bradley were to come to the NBA in this year's draft, would he have a chance to have a 5+ year career? And I'm being generous, Bradley was much more skilled than Bronny at 19 year old.

This is my train of thought, his size is the issue....PG size but in two games it seems like he's not comfortable performing PG duties....6'2 off guard? who seems to be having issues creating separation....who doesn't seem to have a quick first step.....isn't good at finishing.....isn't really shooting well....It's just a tough sell at this point that he's at nba level, i'm not quite sure he's at G-league level if i'm just looking at these two outings.....He is playing hard and his defense is far ahead of his offense for sure....but then you get back to the size issue, where do you play him? how many 6'2 SG's have you seen in todays nba? 6'2 3&D but his case no 3 for now just defense...He's squarely in the GP2 lane right now

[zimpy27]

Even if Bronny was in the ultra elite god tier of NBA athletes and an outstanding defender (both of which he's not), he still can't put the ball on the floor, playmake/finish, and also can't shoot from outside at a decent rate... on top of it he's 6'2''.

If he were, let's say, 6'5'' or better, he could have a chance to stick. Now at 6'2'', it's very difficult for him.

For perspective: if Avery Bradley were to come to the NBA in this year's draft, would he have a chance to have a 5+ year career? And I'm being generous, Bradley was much more skilled than Bronny at 19 year old.

This is my train of thought, his size is the issue....PG size but in two games it seems like he's not comfortable performing PG duties....6'2 off guard? who seems to be having issues creating separation....who doesn't seem to have a quick first step.....isn't good at finishing.....isn't really shooting well....It's just a tough sell at this point that he's at nba level, i'm not quite sure he's at G-league level if i'm just looking at these two outings.....He is playing hard and his defense is far ahead of his offense for sure....but then you get back to the size issue, where do you play him? how many 6'2 SG's have you seen in todays nba? 6'2 3&D but his case no 3 for now just defense...He's squarely in the GP2 lane right now

Beverley made a career out of being 6'1 guard to playmaking wings. Bronny would work fine on a team with a wing playmaker or even a big playmaker.

[zimpy27]

Bronny needs to make his mark as a point of attack defender that will be a 2x possession positive player and can reliably hit a catch and shoot 3 (not just the corners).

Possession positive is simply a player that gets more possessions (steals+OREBs) than they lose possessions (TOs). 2x possession positive is (steals+OREB)/TO that is ~2. Currently in summer league he has 1 OREB, 3 steals and 2 TOs, that's 2x possession positive.

His defense has been great too, think he will be above average with blocks for a guard.

His shooting is what needs tombe fixed to get him an NBA career. Right now his shooting just isn't dropping, needs to work that out. Maybe more reps are needed.

[GSWFan1994]

Even if Bronny was in the ultra elite god tier of NBA athletes and an outstanding defender (both of which he's not), he still can't put the ball on the floor, playmake/finish, and also can't shoot from outside at a decent rate... on top of it he's 6'2''.

If he were, let's say, 6'5'' or better, he could have a chance to stick. Now at 6'2'', it's very difficult for him.

For perspective: if Avery Bradley were to come to the NBA in this year's draft, would he have a chance to have a 5+ year career? And I'm being generous, Bradley was much more skilled than Bronny at 19 year old.

Avery Bradley would, but Avery Bradley is maybe a little taller, and longer, still averaged 11/3/2 in college on 37.5% 3PT.

He shot 40.7% 3PT on 54 attempts in year 2. In year 4 he averaged 15/4/1 on 44/40/80.

If Bronny can make it to Avery Bradley level that would be good for him, we're not sure he can make it to that level yet, a lot of work to go to even get there.

Good points all around. And I also have to say I don't know how well Bradley did while in high school. But I bet he played better than Bronny, as he was ranked better than him, and consequently more highly recruited as well.

It's a hard, long road ahead for Bronny. Maybe he can make it, maybe he can't, the jury's still out, but being honest, I don't think the arrow is pointing straight up for him.

[BlazersBroncos]

Bronny isnt nearly the functional athlete that GPII is. He is a head of steam athlete. GPIII can make 2 footed dunks from the dunkers spot. He is far more agile athletically as well.