Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3

[GoBlue72391]

Even thought its only been 2 games with Bronny, I have no idea what they are even shaping him to be.

To his credit, he looks like he could potentially be a really solid defender. He has good instincts. But that doesn't mean much. He would have to be exceptional at it. But if you cant do much if any on offense, you just wont make it.

Shaq Harrison is actually an amazing defender. But the reason he cant stick on a team is because he cant shoot.

Shaq Harrison is a pretty good comp for Bronny. I think Bronny's offensive ceiling is a smidge higher, but I don't think he'll be as good of a defender as Harrison.

They list Bronny as a PG but they don't let him run point, instead deferring to a 26 year old career overseas player in Kuhse, which to me says a lot about Bronny's ability to be a lead guard.

He spots up in the corner but he can't really shoot, so he's a net negative on offense and at this point a neutral defender at best, and that's a bit of a stretch, though the defensive potential is there.

If Shaq Harrison could even kinda shoot he'd be a really nice role player.

[Muzbar]

Even thought its only been 2 games with Bronny, I have no idea what they are even shaping him to be.

To his credit, he looks like he could potentially be a really solid defender. He has good instincts. But that doesn't mean much. He would have to be exceptional at it. But if you cant do much if any on offense, you just wont make it.

Shaq Harrison is actually an amazing defender. But the reason he cant stick on a team is because he cant shoot.

Shaq Harrison is a pretty good comp for Bronny. I think Bronny's offensive ceiling is a smidge higher, but I don't think he'll be as good of a defender as Harrison.

They list Bronny as a PG but they don't let him run point, instead deferring to a 26 year old career overseas player in Kuhse, which to me says a lot about Bronny's ability to be a lead guard.

He spots up in the corner but he can't really shoot, so he's a net negative on offense and at this point a neutral defender at best, and that's a bit of a stretch, though the defensive potential is there.

If Shaq Harrison could even kinda shoot he'd be a really nice role player.

Wow, yeah Shaq Harrison is a REALLY good comparison for Bronny, all out on defense, but pretty meh, at best, on offense.

Saw he had a 2 steal, 3 block game today, I did find that rather impressive.

[WindyCityBorn]

Bronny is only in the NBA on a guaranteed contract because of his father. It’s a farce.

[TheSuzerain]

We had Marko Simonovic on a guaranteed contract.

15th man is full of nepo hires of various sorts.

[the ultimates]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

[WindyCityBorn]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

There is nothing to develop with Bronny.

[madvillian]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

it's just an odd situation. it probably won't end well for them. Not that I care, I don't mind Lebron but as LeGM and LeCoach when he's no longer a top 5 player and probably not even top 12 is a little much. I get he's Lebron but as you said they are whistling past the graveyard saying they are making moves to compete when in paper they are like the 5th or 6th best team in the West.

[kodo]

Bronny's defense looks great, he should be able to carve out a bench role as a small defender like Gary Payton II or Javonte Green. Heck we started Javonte. GP2 shot 11% from 3 as a rook and is still rostered in the league for 7 years now. GP2 & Javonte also entered league at 24 & 26, Bronny enters at 19. I think he's a legit NBA rookie even without his dad, he did get picked 55th in a historically bad draft, there's probably a ton of kids in the 2nd round that probably aren't NBA material.

[the ultimates]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

There is nothing to develop with Bronny.

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

[WindyCityBorn]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

There is nothing to develop with Bronny.

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

[DuckIII]

There is nothing to develop with Bronny.

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

Exactly. Look, I'm not bagging on Bronny. I'm not bagging on LeBron or the Lakers. They can do whatever they want with their assets for whatever reasons they want. And at the end of the day we are talking about a 15h roster spot at most.

How many 6'1 guards with longish arms and an athletic vertical leap with almost no offensive game end up as defensive specialists in the NBA? Its got to be close to zero. Summer league rosters every year are littered with guys who fit this description, and often with vastly superior measurables. If they are even lucky enough to make summer league rosters at all.

He's not a real NBA prospect. He's a novelty. And frankly that's totally fine so long as its fine with him.

[Dan Z]

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

Exactly. Look, I'm not bagging on Bronny. I'm not bagging on LeBron or the Lakers. They can do whatever they want with their assets for whatever reasons they want. And at the end of the day we are talking about a 15h roster spot at most.

How many 6'1 guards with longish arms and an athletic vertical leap with almost no offensive game end up as defensive specialists in the NBA? Its got to be close to zero. Summer league rosters every year are littered with guys who fit this description, and often with vastly superior measurables. If they are even lucky enough to make summer league rosters at all.

He's not a real NBA prospect. He's a novelty. And frankly that's totally fine so long as its fine with him.

I bet he doesn't think of himself as a novelty and wants to prove people wrong. Will he? Probably not, but we'll find out.

[HomoSapien]

Speaking of Javonte Green, it's so obvious that the Nuggets should sign him right? That's about the cheapest Bruce Brown replacement out there. Doesn't give you the same scoring, but really can replicate that energy and defense.

[drosestruts]

Speaking of Javonte Green, it's so obvious that the Nuggets should sign him right? That's about the cheapest Bruce Brown replacement out there. Doesn't give you the same scoring, but really can replicate that energy and defense.

I don't know. The Javonte Green we briefly saw at the end of the season was scoring the ball pretty well.

But yes I agree. Denver should have signed him two weeks ago.

[HomoSapien]

We had Marko Simonovic on a guaranteed contract.

15th man is full of nepo hires of various sorts.

This reminded of when we had Paul Zipser. Anyone remember how much Marv Albert hated Zipser? Was just completely disgusted and perplexed that he was in the NBA. Just could not comprehend how he found his way onto an NBA roster.

[the ultimates]

There is nothing to develop with Bronny.

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

I haven't been done that to Dalen Terry. The one thing Bulls fans on this board are notorious for is downplaying and being impatient with their own young talent while making it seem everybody else's young players hit their 99th percentile instantly.

With that being said because of his age and the skillset that he showed before cardiac arrest gives him an advantage over guys 23,24 and 25 years old on their second or third summer league stint.

[the ultimates]

That's where I disagree. He already seems to be a willing defender, that's half the battle. He improves his three-point shooting and you have a serviceable 3&D player anything more than that is gravy.

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

Exactly. Look, I'm not bagging on Bronny. I'm not bagging on LeBron or the Lakers. They can do whatever they want with their assets for whatever reasons they want. And at the end of the day we are talking about a 15h roster spot at most.

How many 6'1 guards with longish arms and an athletic vertical leap with almost no offensive game end up as defensive specialists in the NBA? Its got to be close to zero. Summer league rosters every year are littered with guys who fit this description, and often with vastly superior measurables. If they are even lucky enough to make summer league rosters at all.

He's not a real NBA prospect. He's a novelty. And frankly that's totally fine so long as its fine with him.

Let's change the name to Bronny Duck, a player good enough to be a high school all-american, highly recruited and was projected to be a definite draft pick in his class. Then that gets derailed by cardiac arrest which affected his only college season. So whatever skills and abilities shown before have evaporated I guess. The hate he gets because of his last name is crazy. I guarantee you people on this board would be saying I wish the Bulls had 2nd round pick to take Bronny Duck.

[Jcool0]

The problem isn't drafting Bronny or even nepotism. Remember, many scouts had him as a legit first-round pick before the heart problems, so drafting him based on upside isn't unheard of. The problem is the Lakers keeping up this facade of "we are competing for a championship". Drafting Knecht and Bronny and saying we legit want to develop them is fine as long as you are publicly acknowledging this is a transition period especially having an inexperienced coach.

He was never a 1st round pick coming out of high school.

[WindyCityBorn]

So basically the same potential as every other 6’3” athletic player. People here clown Dalen Terry and he is 10 times the potential of Bronny.

Exactly. Look, I'm not bagging on Bronny. I'm not bagging on LeBron or the Lakers. They can do whatever they want with their assets for whatever reasons they want. And at the end of the day we are talking about a 15h roster spot at most.

How many 6'1 guards with longish arms and an athletic vertical leap with almost no offensive game end up as defensive specialists in the NBA? Its got to be close to zero. Summer league rosters every year are littered with guys who fit this description, and often with vastly superior measurables. If they are even lucky enough to make summer league rosters at all.

He's not a real NBA prospect. He's a novelty. And frankly that's totally fine so long as its fine with him.

Let's change the name to Bronny Duck, a player good enough to be a high school all-american, highly recruited and was projected to be a definite draft pick in his class. Then that gets derailed by cardiac arrest which affected his only college season. So whatever skills and abilities shown before have evaporated I guess. The hate he gets because of his last name is crazy. I guarantee you people on this board would be saying I wish the Bulls had 2nd round pick to take Bronny Duck.

I don’t think he ever becomes a highly rightly prospect if his last name isn’t James. The overrating started years ago.

[Indomitable]

We had Marko Simonovic on a guaranteed contract.

15th man is full of nepo hires of various sorts.

It is how obvious it is. Let's be honest here. If the Celtics had drafted him. Most people would not care.

It is messy and silly. Lebron if had owned it. No one would really care. His son did nothing. Even Giannis brother actually played well in Europe and was 6'7. He is a great athlete. He is the most explosive brother.

Bronny had a heart attack and struggled.