Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Covi_Marsh]

All them cool for regular season but are they good enough for playoff rotation?

[Iverson Armband]

I’m sure a lot of the younger FAs are holding out for more money, but I don’t get this fascination with needing a bunch of old, washed up vets on this roster. Neither the Celtics or Mavs had washed up minimum players contributing meaningful minutes in the playoffs and here we are penciling in freaking Kyle Lowry and Eric Gordon, two geriatric munchkins. We should be cultivating our young talent. Embiid, Maxey and certainly PG aren’t kids anymore. THEY should be the vet leaders.

[Covi_Marsh]

I’m sure a lot of the younger FAs are holding out for more money, but I don’t get this fascination with needing a bunch of old, washed up vets on this roster. Neither the Celtics or Mavs had washed up minimum players contributing meaningful minutes in the playoffs and here we are penciling in freaking Kyrie Lowry and Eric Gordon, two geriatric munchkins. We should be cultivating our young talent. Embiid, Maxey and certainly PG aren’t kids anymore. THEY should be the vet leaders.

Lol u aint bout to hype Payton Prichard and Sam Houser like Eric Gordon and Kyle Lowry is beneath them.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m sure a lot of the younger FAs are holding out for more money, but I don’t get this fascination with needing a bunch of old, washed up vets on this roster. Neither the Celtics or Mavs had washed up minimum players contributing meaningful minutes in the playoffs and here we are penciling in freaking Kyrie Lowry and Eric Gordon, two geriatric munchkins. We should be cultivating our young talent. Embiid, Maxey and certainly PG aren’t kids anymore. THEY should be the vet leaders.

Lol u aint bout to hype Payton Prichard and Sam Houser like Eric Gordon and Kyle Lowry is beneath them.

I see you conveniently left out Lively. And Prichard is better than Lowry at this stage of their careers.

[FireMorey]

Jae Crowder is basically PJ Tucker at this point but without the attitude. He can't move, he just stands on the wings and shoots 3's. Not sure he's even that good of a defender anymore at this point. I don't think he's an NBA player anymore.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

I like Lowry if we didn’t already sign Gordon. I feel like they are a bit redundant. It’s not the end of the world. But I wouldn’t be looking to add any more old vets to this roster unless they can really play.

[Covi_Marsh]

I’m sure a lot of the younger FAs are holding out for more money, but I don’t get this fascination with needing a bunch of old, washed up vets on this roster. Neither the Celtics or Mavs had washed up minimum players contributing meaningful minutes in the playoffs and here we are penciling in freaking Kyrie Lowry and Eric Gordon, two geriatric munchkins. We should be cultivating our young talent. Embiid, Maxey and certainly PG aren’t kids anymore. THEY should be the vet leaders.

Lol u aint bout to hype Payton Prichard and Sam Houser like Eric Gordon and Kyle Lowry is beneath them.

I see you conveniently left out Lively. And Prichard is better than Lowry at this stage of their careers.

Lol I don’t disagree with Dallas bench. But Boston bench was ass. Pritchard ass. He can hit 3s but he’s not better than Gordon. I’d take Lowry over him as well but I suppose it is close.

[zaz102]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

I like Lowry if we didn’t already sign Gordon. I feel like they are a bit redundant. It’s not the end of the world. But I wouldn’t be looking to add any more old vets to this roster unless they can really play.

Tyus Jones and GTJ would've been my first choices, but not sure of the redundancy with Gordon and Lowry. They offer different options at the guard spot.

They still have four spots (two if they go KJ and open roster spot). I expect they will add a couple forwards now. Slim pickings when it comes to the minimums. Interested to hear you would've gone for.

Either way, hopefully they add at least one more impactful player during the season which would make Lowry/Gordon like 7th or 8th guys at best.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

I like Lowry if we didn’t already sign Gordon. I feel like they are a bit redundant. It’s not the end of the world. But I wouldn’t be looking to add any more old vets to this roster unless they can really play.

To me they’re really different. Kyle Lowry is a respected former All Star & NBA champion who can be an extension of Nurse in the locker room. He’s still got enough juice left to provide regular season value but you really want his leadership.

Gordon is a gunner who can swing a game if he gets hot, especially because his range offers a ton of spacing benefits. To me he’s someone you want because of his on court value & any vet leadership he provides an added benefit.

[ProcessDoctor]

Cov, Morris, and KJ Goldilocks next.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

I like Lowry if we didn’t already sign Gordon. I feel like they are a bit redundant. It’s not the end of the world. But I wouldn’t be looking to add any more old vets to this roster unless they can really play.

Tyus Jones and GTJ would've been my first choices, but not sure of the redundancy with Gordon and Lowry. They offer different options at the guard spot.

They still have four spots (two if they go KJ and open roster spot). I expect they will add a couple forwards now. Slim pickings when it comes to the minimums. Interested to hear you would've gone for.

Either way, hopefully they add at least one more impactful player during the season which would make Lowry/Gordon like 7th or 8th guys at best.

I like Tyus as well, but he’s probably hoping he can get more $$ than we can offer. Listen, I fully understand it’s slim pickings and it’s not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. My problem is I think Nurse plays these guys at the expense of RC4, McCain, etc and I don’t think it’s worth stunting their growth. Hope I’m wrong.

[Murray_17]

Pritchard costs 10 million a year and his only positive trail is being a good shooter...

Gordon shot 37% at age 35 on almost 6 attempts and signed a minimum contract, meanwhile, Pritchard shot 38% on 5 attempts a game lol

The team can only give minimum contracts at this point, and Lowry is the best guard available for the minimum. And Gordon is just better than Payton **** Pritchard.

I just don't understand some of the complains.

[Murray_17]

Marcus Morris and/or Jae Crowder and we're good until the trade deadline.

Crowder is absolutely cooked.

[Sixerscan]

I would have preferred Tyus but him at a minimum seems like a long shot. After that idk who the better option would be. If you wait for Tyus and Lowry signs and then Tyus signs elsewhere you’re in a tough spot.

Really I thought Lowry was fine last year he just absolutely not be starting at this point. With all the turnover the team had because of the cap space plan, having some continuity is good.

They have a long term guard they’re developing in McCain, feel like there are worse guys for him to learn from than Lowry and Gordon. Maybe he develops quicker than expected and he’s playing over one of them by the end of the year. If not that’s ok, Maxey barely played his rookie year and he still developed.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m good with Lowry - championship teams need a non-star voice who can command the room & he’s our version of it.

If sh*t hits the fan in the playoffs, we all know Maxey is play 45-46 minutes anyway.

I like Lowry if we didn’t already sign Gordon. I feel like they are a bit redundant. It’s not the end of the world. But I wouldn’t be looking to add any more old vets to this roster unless they can really play.

To me they’re really different. Kyle Lowry is a respected former All Star & NBA champion who can be an extension of Nurse in the locker room. He’s still got enough juice left to provide regular season value but you really want his leadership.

Gordon is a gunner who can swing a game if he gets hot, especially because his range offers a ton of spacing benefits. To me he’s someone you want because of his on court value & any vet leadership he provides an added benefit.

Ehh, I think all that leadership stuff is a bit overrated. I would have brought Lowry back but Gordon is a no for me. Boston has Horford for that role you speak of, but that’s about it and he’s still a really productive player. Dallas doesn’t have anyone like that. OKC doesn’t. Minnesota just has Conley. Indiana doesn’t. Denver doesn’t.

You don’t need a bunch of vets to win, you need good players and I’d like to see our young guys play to determine what we really have. Again, Embiid, Martin, PG, Maxey is plenty of experience. It’s not so much a problem if Nurse doesn’t play the old munchkins, but I suspect he will.

[Covi_Marsh]

Pritchard costs 10 million a year and his only positive trail is being a good shooter...

Gordon shot 37% at age 35 on almost 6 attempts and signed a minimum contract, meanwhile, Pritchard shot 38% on 4 attempts a game lol

The team can only give minimum contracts at this point, and Lowry is the best guard available for the minimum. And Gordon is just better than Payton **** Pritchard.

I just don't understand some of the complains.

Yea the Gordon complaint is crazy. He played big mins for Phoenix and produced. He is not washed. Great bench piece. Lowry I get but he still a solid PG. He was starting next to Maxey which hurt our defense and rebounding. Backing up Maxey I think he’ll be fine. Gotta dead that small backcourt. Gordon wingspan differeniates him

[zaz102]

I would have preferred Tyus but him at a minimum seems like a long shot. After that idk who the better option would be. If you wait for Tyus and Lowry signs and then Tyus signs elsewhere you’re in a tough spot.

Really I thought Lowry was fine last year he just absolutely not be starting at this point. With all the turnover the team had because of the cap space plan, having some continuity is good.

They have a long term guard they’re developing in McCain, feel like there are worse guys for him to learn from than Lowry and Gordon. Maybe he develops quicker than expected and he’s playing over one of them by the end of the year. If not that’s ok, Maxey barely played his rookie year and he still developed.

Definitely agree. I would still be surprised if Tyus went for the minimum and if we didn't lock up Lowry, he probably been off the table.

There's a good point about Nurse wanting to play vets over young guys, but a lot of time there's good reason for a contending team. We'll see how it goes.

My hope is that after the top five, we experiment with the rest of the roster during the season to see which lineups work best and make our final move via KJ+assets at the deadline.

[Black Mage]

Rather than rehash the same names, anyone know anything or have any takes on Dominick Barlow or Poku as possible PF depth? Think I'd rather take a chance on youth versus rust buckets.

[sixers hoops]

Playoffs normally an 8 man rotation.

Maxey
Oubre
George
Martin
Embiid

Lowry
Gordon
Drummond

We need another rotation wing. Gotta go 9 deep

Drummond will get the 12 minutes or so Embiid sits, but Jo’s backup is usually 9th in minutes. Drummond isn’t as versatile, so he will be limited in the rotation. Similarly, I hope Lowry is limited to backup point guard minutes.

It’s not always this cookie-cutter, but with strictly center and point guard, prob need five guys at the two, three, and four spots. After PG, Martin, Oubre, it really depends how Gordon and Council look. And even if both meet expectations, we still could use a bigger defender. There are a few free agents who would be likely upgrades, not sure about for the minimum.