Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[jstross]

I'll believe trent Jr rumors when if he signs and not before. Hope it's true though, but not sure what that means for Lowry

[Sixerscan]

BucketAccess just popped up on my timeline saying that Gary Trent is signing with the Sixers. He claims to have broken the Okogie signing, Lowry signing, and Brunson extension well before Woj or Shams. I scrolled through his timeline and can see his reports, and they appear to be well in advance.

Am I missing something?

Yeah I seen that also but he's like vinfosho or whatever his name is. They just seen the following stuff on insta n acting like they got sources. Parade party when they actually get 1 right

What got me though was the exact dollar amount on the Brunson deal. Was that the rumored amount? He posted that last night.

Brunson signed for the most he could right now. It’s based on his current salary plus a percentage.

[sixers hoops]

Yeah I seen that also but he's like vinfosho or whatever his name is. They just seen the following stuff on insta n acting like they got sources. Parade party when they actually get 1 right

What got me though was the exact dollar amount on the Brunson deal. Was that the rumored amount? He posted that last night.

Brunson signed for the most he could right now. It’s based on his current salary plus a percentage.

I thought he took less, which would have made the prediction pretty convincing.

[Snotbubbles]

Count me out on Trent Jr. I really like him but not with this roster. We might be worse at both rebounding and defense if we keep rounding out the roster with guys under 6’6”. The league is going big and we’re lagging behind.

This was the Celtics starting lineup in game 1 of the NBA finals:

Al Horford - 6'9"
Jayson Tatum - 6'8"
Jaylen Brown - 6'6"
Jrue Holiday - 6'4"
Derrick White 6'4"

Holiday and White are cheat codes defensively. They're not your average 6'4" guards and can position up defensively, whereas Maxey and Trent Jr. would get eaten alive in the same scenario.

That's an entirely different argument than the one you made previously. You went from size, to ability.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

[the_process]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

[Sixerscan]

What got me though was the exact dollar amount on the Brunson deal. Was that the rumored amount? He posted that last night.

Brunson signed for the most he could right now. It’s based on his current salary plus a percentage.

I thought he took less, which would have made the prediction pretty convincing.

Yeah I could see that, pretty sure that spin is just that he took less than he could have gotten if he waited until next summer.

[NearingZero]

Glad they did the KJ half-balloon. I never expected them to go $12M+, but I didn't want them to lose the flexibility that this contract gives them.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

Yeah, honestly...Flip a coin, I'd take either player. I think Trent is a bigger stronger body of you're trying to play him next to Maxey. Walker is the better overall athlete. I would say that Trent is probably the better shooter. He's going to make a living on open threes if he signs here. I like Walker because it seems as though he is going to play with some motivation this season and if he gets minutes on a team, he's going to earn a contract. It doesn't matter to me. I know we're linked to Trent. I'd be hyped if we do sign him. This has been an incredible offseason so far. I just hope we live up to the hype.

[Iscull]

Brunson signed for the most he could right now. It’s based on his current salary plus a percentage.

I thought he took less, which would have made the prediction pretty convincing.

Yeah I could see that, pretty sure that spin is just that he took less than he could have gotten if he waited until next summer.

It’s guaranteed money now, or more next year. What’s interesting is he could’ve made $100MM more by waiting one more year.

[Sixerscan]

I thought he took less, which would have made the prediction pretty convincing.

Yeah I could see that, pretty sure that spin is just that he took less than he could have gotten if he waited until next summer.

It’s guaranteed money now, or more next year. What’s interesting is he could’ve made $100MM more by waiting one more year.

Yeah I’m just saying that’s why this random guy was able to predict he was gonna sign for that exact number today. He took less than he could have if he waited, but if he was signing now it was pretty simple to predict what the number was, and there were rumbles he was going to sign now.

[Black Mage]

Read on Twitter

Kid has a great attitude.

[Embiid-MVP]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

You can have your opinion. Trent is the better shooter imo. They both have almost indetical defensive ratings roughly around 116 so that's a push. Walker is a better athlete but we need more shooters not athletes. Not gonna be enough room for more athletes with Maxey Paul Embiid taking majority of the plays/shots.

Rather have someone familiar with nurse too. Being close to home is cool and all but really means nothing

[eyeatoma]

Or we identified some players making 8 mil or less to trade him for if need be before deadline

It would be tough to trade Drummond or Lowry without an obvious replacement lined up, but I could see Gordon, Council, a soon to be signed minimum contract, or even McCain getting added into a mid season deal. If we had a player making $12 million in our sites, we could get there fairly easily.

First thing that popped into my mind was the use McCain plus seconds instead of future first round picks as they assets to trade with KJ. Which is probably the smartest way to go.

They could pair up. KJ, Jared, and like some vet minimum to get up to nearly 15 million.


Damn Daryl so smart

I'm not giving up McCain.

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[Embiid-MVP]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

Trent averages and scores better so wouldn't he be going ham?

I'll take either or but if there's a choice then it's no contest imo

[Embiid-MVP]

It would be tough to trade Drummond or Lowry without an obvious replacement lined up, but I could see Gordon, Council, a soon to be signed minimum contract, or even McCain getting added into a mid season deal. If we had a player making $12 million in our sites, we could get there fairly easily.

First thing that popped into my mind was the use McCain plus seconds instead of future first round picks as they assets to trade with KJ. Which is probably the smartest way to go.

They could pair up. KJ, Jared, and like some vet minimum to get up to nearly 15 million.


Damn Daryl so smart

I'm not giving up McCain.

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I'm not either till at least getting some quality minutes to at least get a peek

[FlyingArrow]

I thought he took less, which would have made the prediction pretty convincing.

Yeah I could see that, pretty sure that spin is just that he took less than he could have gotten if he waited until next summer.

It’s guaranteed money now, or more next year. What’s interesting is he could’ve made $100MM more by waiting one more year.

They throw that number around, but it's not apples-to-apples.

By signing now, he got $156.5m guaranteed over 4 years, but nothing guaranteed in the 5th year. But he's unlikely to earn $0 that 5th year. And the 4th year of the contract he signed is a player option. ~$117m is guaranteed over 3 years.

By not singing now, he would have nothing guaranteed at all until next summer.

Then next summer, if he's still a max player, he would have ~$162m guaranteed over 3 years, plus another ~$108m guaranteed in the 4th and 5th year.

He possibly gave up ~$45m to guarantee the money now instead of risking it by waiting a year. It may be rare, but there are players who lose tens of millions by not taking the money right away, whether due to injury, a change in the market, or a drop (or perceived drop) in skill. Isaiah Thomas and Nerlens Noel come to mind. After the 3 years, he has a chance to renegotiate.

[LeonJordanJr24]

I'll believe trent Jr rumors when if he signs and not before. Hope it's true though, but not sure what that means for Lowry

Puts oubre to bench
Lowry back up point
Trent Jr starting shooting guard ..

Maxey/Lowry/McCain
TrentJr/ Gordan /
CalebM/ Oubre / Council
George/ KJ Martin / Morris or roco...
Embiid/ Drummond / Bona

[Iscull]

Read on Twitter

Kid has a great attitude.

Opposite of Ben Simmons lol

[sixers hoops]

It would be tough to trade Drummond or Lowry without an obvious replacement lined up, but I could see Gordon, Council, a soon to be signed minimum contract, or even McCain getting added into a mid season deal. If we had a player making $12 million in our sites, we could get there fairly easily.

First thing that popped into my mind was the use McCain plus seconds instead of future first round picks as they assets to trade with KJ. Which is probably the smartest way to go.

They could pair up. KJ, Jared, and like some vet minimum to get up to nearly 15 million.


Damn Daryl so smart

I'm not giving up McCain.

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You wouldn’t give up McCain for anybody? You are seriously overvaluing him to make that statement.