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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#681 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:27 pm

Sign him to the highest but still tradeable extension possible. Figure things out later.

They can either keep him on top of everyone else and just keep sending Brinks trucks to the league office. They can trade him into cap space/MLE/TPE with a smaller/no salary + modest asset coming back. They can keep him while they trade one of the starters later on.

One thing I don't think they should do is let him walk for nothing. Volume shooters with his accuracy who can play solid defense don't grow on trees.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#682 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:58 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Sign him to the highest but still tradeable extension possible. Figure things out later.

They can either keep him on top of everyone else and just keep sending Brinks trucks to the league office. They can trade him into cap space/MLE/TPE with a smaller/no salary + modest asset coming back. They can keep him while they trade one of the starters later on.

One thing I don't think they should do is let him walk for nothing. Volume shooters with his accuracy who can play solid defense don't grow on trees.

I don't think Stevens has ever let a rotation player leave without getting something in return. Even Grant Williams (second round picks) and Fournier (TPE) brought an asset back so I don't expect him to start now with Hauser.

Sam Hauser with his shooting is a seamless fit on all 30 teams. He led all rotation players in the entire league in net rating in the regular season (+14.2) and the playoffs (+15.5) last year. Some of the numbers thrown around are not realistic at all. If he doesn't get 8 figures annually he needs to fire his agent.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#683 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:36 pm

Some folks on here sound like they *are* Sam Hauser's agent ;)

Speaking of Hauser's agent..here are some other deals he has negotiated recently:

-JB's supermax deal
-Jrue's team-friendly extension with BOS
-Divencenzo, 4 yrs, $46 mil with the Knicks
-Marcus Smart, team friendly 4 yr extension with BOS
-Franz Wagner got huge rookie scale extension
-Moe Wagner took a team friendly extension with ORL, 2 yrs, $22 mil

So $11.5 mil a year for Donte. $11mil a year for Moe..perhaps he'll get Hauser in that range as well..seems like he tries to get his role player clients at least $10 or $11 mil a year..

Keith Smith said he expects it to be around $8-10mil for Hauser though so perhaps that's why it's not done yet..there might a little bit of a delta there to try and close..
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#684 » by Homerclease » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:16 pm

Hal14 wrote:Some folks on here sound like they *are* Sam Hauser's agent ;)

You wrote a masters thesis about a second round pick because a poster said he had limitations. You must be a relative of Anton Watson using this logic
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#685 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:31 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Some folks on here sound like they *are* Sam Hauser's agent ;)

You wrote a masters thesis about a second round pick because a poster said he had limitations. You must be a relative of Anton Watson using this logic

It was a joke? Hence the winking emoji..

This seems like baiting, so I won't be engaging with you further on this.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#686 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:34 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Some folks on here sound like they *are* Sam Hauser's agent ;)

You wrote a masters thesis about a second round pick because a poster said he had limitations. You must be a relative of Anton Watson using this logic

We know that it's the humdrum days of Summer.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#688 » by Riverwalk2021 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:18 am

Extending Hauser makes a ton of sense. You either keep him if he progresses and you decide to move off a high salary after next season (likely KP or Jrue) or trade him since he'll be a valuable asset. Maybe you can get back a cheaper player who will be useful and/or picks. 4 years at $9M-$10M per is a good raise and value even if he doesn't get better. I wouldn't classify him as a starter level player right now but he's a good bench player.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#689 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:27 am

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Extending Hauser makes a ton of sense. You either keep him if he progresses and you decide to move off a high salary after next season (likely KP or Jrue) or trade him since he'll be a valuable asset. Maybe you can get back a cheaper player who will be useful and/or picks. 4 years at $9M-$10M per is a good raise and value even if he doesn't get better. I wouldn't classify him as a starter level player right now but he's a good bench player.

Guess it depends on how he progresses, but there's a chance Sam could be Jrue's replacement in the starting unit some time in the future.

But Cs have to lock up Sam first.
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Post#690 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:53 pm

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Post#691 » by cl2117 » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:09 pm

4/44 feels like the "everybody wins" middle ground.

Sam is probably thinking he could get $12-15m if everything keeps going right for him. KCP just got $22m per, Monk go $19m. Strus got over $15m per last season and Isaiah Joe just got $12m this summer. There's a path to that level if he's still 40% plus from three and is above average defensively.

On the other end of the spectrum you've got a ton of guys that are arguably in the same ballpark as him who are netting $8-10m per season deals this summer: Derrick Jones Jr. 3/30, Caleb Martin 4/35, Naji Marshall 3/27, Royce O'Neale 4/42, Buddly Hield 4/38, DeAnthony Melton 1/13.

Not arguing that Sam is better or worse than any of the guys mentioned, but I think those level of players encompasses Sam's range of potential outcomes for next season (between KCP and Marshall effectively). He could get injured/take a step backwards and end up towards the low end of that spectrum or he could get even better on defense and end up at the high end, but that's roughly his range.

Smack dab in the middle is 4/44. It might be a tough pill for Sam to swallow after Isaiah Joe gets 4/48, but I see him right in that range. He could potentially be leaving money on the table here at that price tag but he also gets money locked in now, so there's insurance on his side.

I'd be willing to give him all the way up to 4/52 rather than risk losing him. That would give us a contract of just slightly more than the current MLE, so down the line we'd be able to swap him out for anyone making the MLE or under, which has added value thanks to the 2nd apron restrictions. Really can't afford to let him walk for nothing from an asset preservation standpoint, so as long as he's not playing hard ball, they should get it done ASAP.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#692 » by RickyDizzle » Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:59 pm

cl2117 wrote:4/44 feels like the "everybody wins" middle ground.

Sam is probably thinking he could get $12-15m if everything keeps going right for him. KCP just got $22m per, Monk go $19m. Strus got over $15m per last season and Isaiah Joe just got $12m this summer. There's a path to that level if he's still 40% plus from three and is above average defensively.

On the other end of the spectrum you've got a ton of guys that are arguably in the same ballpark as him who are netting $8-10m per season deals this summer: Derrick Jones Jr. 3/30, Caleb Martin 4/35, Naji Marshall 3/27, Royce O'Neale 4/42, Buddly Hield 4/38, DeAnthony Melton 1/13.

Not arguing that Sam is better or worse than any of the guys mentioned, but I think those level of players encompasses Sam's range of potential outcomes for next season (between KCP and Marshall effectively). He could get injured/take a step backwards and end up towards the low end of that spectrum or he could get even better on defense and end up at the high end, but that's roughly his range.

Smack dab in the middle is 4/44. It might be a tough pill for Sam to swallow after Isaiah Joe gets 4/48, but I see him right in that range. He could potentially be leaving money on the table here at that price tag but he also gets money locked in now, so there's insurance on his side.

I'd be willing to give him all the way up to 4/52 rather than risk losing him. That would give us a contract of just slightly more than the current MLE, so down the line we'd be able to swap him out for anyone making the MLE or under, which has added value thanks to the 2nd apron restrictions. Really can't afford to let him walk for nothing from an asset preservation standpoint, so as long as he's not playing hard ball, they should get it done ASAP.


Good post. Generally agree all around, 4 for 50 is my prediction.
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#694 » by playa-hater » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:58 am

If Sam signs a low ball offer, that will prove Stevens is the Anti-Christ..

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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#695 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:26 pm

Because Boston is a repeater tax team next year and the NBA is set to implement more stringent penalties, a new contract for Hauser starting at $8 million adds over $60 million in tax penalties.

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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#696 » by 165bows » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:53 pm

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What criteria are they using to keep Al out of the starting lineup at a 60%+ 3PAr the past two seasons? This a subset of three point shooters or what?
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Re: Sam Hauser – (Celtics Pickup Option. Prob. Extension after July 9) 

Post#697 » by phincsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:59 pm

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That team deserves the #1 pick :lol: because they will work their way to the worst record and not even have to tank for it.
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Post#699 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:59 pm

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Post#700 » by Homerclease » Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:00 pm

4/45 is an absolute steal for Hauser. Shocked he came so cheap

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