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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1921 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:13 am

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76ciology wrote:GTJ has almost 6’9” wingspan but only has 8’2” standing reach. He was a very good defensive player in deflections and steals for both 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 seasons.


A good defender and very good shooter than. Still relative young

Why does he only get the minimum then?


He had a down year last season. Even though he’s rumored to not like Nurse, he had his best seasons under Nurse.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1922 » by LloydFree » Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:22 am

Wilfried wrote:
76ciology wrote:GTJ has almost 6’9” wingspan but only has 8’2” standing reach. He was a very good defensive player in deflections and steals for both 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 seasons.


A good defender and very good shooter than. Still relative young

Why does he only get the minimum then?

He did a Caleb Martin and turned down 15 million, now he's scrambling because everyone has spent their money. He needs Tobias Harris' agent.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1923 » by Decipher » Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:45 am

Wilfried wrote:
76ciology wrote:GTJ has almost 6’9” wingspan but only has 8’2” standing reach. He was a very good defensive player in deflections and steals for both 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 seasons.


A good defender and very good shooter than. Still relative young

Why does he only get the minimum then?


He was pretty terrible for the Raptors last season

Basically dropped his bundle and became a traffic cone according to their fans
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1924 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:43 am

I like Gary Trent, but where the hell are we going to find all these minutes at SG?

Caleb Martin, Eric Gordon, and Jared McCain already in place.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1925 » by Sixerscan » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:01 pm

If Trent will take a minimum you bring him in and figure it out. But yeah I don’t see it.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1926 » by zaz102 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:02 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I like Gary Trent, but where the hell are we going to find all these minutes at SG?

Caleb Martin, Eric Gordon, and Jared McCain already in place.
Caleb Martin will most definitely play significant minutes at F. And I think it would be very hopeful and unlikely to expect McCain to get significant playing time.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1927 » by Kolkmania » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:07 pm

Wilfried wrote:
76ciology wrote:GTJ has almost 6’9” wingspan but only has 8’2” standing reach. He was a very good defensive player in deflections and steals for both 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 seasons.


A good defender and very good shooter than. Still relative young

Why does he only get the minimum then?


High volume shooter from three on okay-ish efficiency. However, that's it. Poor man-to-man defense, gambles a lot for steals, doesn't rebound, AST% hilariously low for a guard and if he doesn't shoot a three he basically never gets to the rim/line and settles for pull-up jumpers.

Obviously he has some value with his quick trigger from three, but he's certainly not a high IQ, two-way player that you'd ideally play next to our core.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1928 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:25 pm

Yeah if we get Trent for vet min we can figure out the rotations later. We probably need to promise him the starting SG spot to get him to sign. If he does, here's the lineup:

PG Maxey | Lowry | McCain
SG Trent | Gordon | Council
SF Oubre | C. Martin | YYY
PF George | XXX | K. Martin
CE Embiid | Drummond | Bona

Looks great to me: insane 3PT shooting accuracy and volume with Maxey, Trent and George, plus Gordon off the bench.

The last remaining spot for now would be player XXX, the backup PF / big wing. We'll leave spot YYY open to start the year. We'd have enough depth to not require heavy minutes from the geritol crew (Lowry and Gordon).

The 8-man playoff rotation is the 5 starters plus Lowry, C. Martin, and Drummond. 9th man is Gordon, Council, or whatever player we trade K. Martin for.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1929 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:49 pm

Morey's evil master plan: Trade KJ Martin + 2nds for Nic Batum on January 15th.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1930 » by youngcrev » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:52 pm

If you can add Trent Jr, I'd look at the rotation more like this rather than traditional positions:
Guards: Maxey, Trent Jr, Lowry, Gordon, McCain
Wings: George, Oubre, Martin, Council IV, Martin Jr
Bigs: Embiid, Drummond, Bona

I'd love to see Nurse get more aggressive with his defensive tactics this year. I wonder if them playing exclusively zone during summer league is a possible sign of things to come. Keep your bigs in the paint to protect the basket and use your athleticism on the wing to cover some ground and scramble.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1931 » by FireMorey » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:25 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I like Gary Trent, but where the hell are we going to find all these minutes at SG?

Caleb Martin, Eric Gordon, and Jared McCain already in place.


I would not expect McCain to play very much, if at all, next season. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if he was drafted to dangle in a package with KJ at the deadline. And Martin will play more at F than G most likely.

The Sixers only real depth at SG is Gordon. I know they can mix and match in positionless form, but still. If you have a chance to get Trent you do it. That said, I still find it highly unlikely a guy who wanted 18m per season two weeks ago will take the minimum.
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Post#1932 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:29 pm

Keep an eye on Washington and Saddiq Bey as a potential return on a mid-season Martin trade. I could see Washington eventually tank their season to capture the Flagg and change course to stack up assets.

Martin and picks for Bey could make a lot of sense for both teams.

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1933 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:31 pm

Do we know the structure of KJ's contract yet?
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1934 » by Sixerscan » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:40 pm

FireMorey wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I like Gary Trent, but where the hell are we going to find all these minutes at SG?

Caleb Martin, Eric Gordon, and Jared McCain already in place.


I would not expect McCain to play very much, if at all, next season. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if he was drafted to dangle in a package with KJ at the deadline. And Martin will play more at F than G most likely.

The Sixers only real depth at SG is Gordon. I know they can mix and match in positionless form, but still. If you have a chance to get Trent you do it. That said, I still find it highly unlikely a guy who wanted 18m per season two weeks ago will take the minimum.


Yeah this all needs to be caveated with it seems very unlikely. The Knicks can offer him the tMLE, the Bucks, Lakers and i assume Nuggets can offer him a less cluttered path to a lot of playing time.

But if we're gonna play it out, realistically at least one of Trent or Gordon will probably not work out, maybe they get hurt or don't mesh with other guys or just play poorly, and then you just use him as more salary filler in the KJ trade. These minimum contracts are all bets, some of them are gonna be Oubre, some will be Harrell. Just get talent in the building and figure it out.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1935 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:55 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Keep an eye on Washington and Saddiq Bey as a potential return on a mid-season Martin trade. I could see Washington eventually tank their season to capture the Flagg and change course to stack up assets.

Martin and picks for Bey could make a lot of sense for both teams.

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Saddiq Bey is just a name. He's not actually a good player. Coming off an ACL injury mid-season makes it even worse.

No chance the guy would help in a title push, so I don't see it.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1936 » by PhillyFan11 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:27 pm

Jake LaRavia is a name I hope Morey considers. Former 1st round pick with a solid skill set that has no real path to playing time for Memphis. Don’t know what it would take, but he makes nothing so you could trade Martin and a pick(s?) for him now. I think he could definitely play a very solid 15-20 mins for us at backup 4 while continuing to be a cheap asset moving forward
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1937 » by sixers hoops » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:38 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Do we know the structure of KJ's contract yet?


I have seen anything
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1938 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:42 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Jake LaRavia is a name I hope Morey considers. Former 1st round pick with a solid skill set that has no real path to playing time for Memphis. Don’t know what it would take, but he makes nothing so you could trade Martin and a pick(s?) for him now. I think he could definitely play a very solid 15-20 mins for us at backup 4 while continuing to be a cheap asset moving forward


He's an interesting name. I would also look into Aldama and probably prefer him. As you mentioned, kinda tough to gauge their value.
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George/Oubre/Edwards
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1939 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:02 pm

Arsenal wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:Keep an eye on Washington and Saddiq Bey as a potential return on a mid-season Martin trade. I could see Washington eventually tank their season to capture the Flagg and change course to stack up assets.

Martin and picks for Bey could make a lot of sense for both teams.

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Saddiq Bey is just a name. He's not actually a good player. Coming off an ACL injury mid-season makes it even worse.

No chance the guy would help in a title push, so I don't see it.
I like his fit. Hardnosed physical wing who's switchable and can match up with 4's. Capable outside shooter (although he didn't shoot particularly well last season).

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1940 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:58 pm

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Arsenal wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:Keep an eye on Washington and Saddiq Bey as a potential return on a mid-season Martin trade. I could see Washington eventually tank their season to capture the Flagg and change course to stack up assets.

Martin and picks for Bey could make a lot of sense for both teams.

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Saddiq Bey is just a name. He's not actually a good player. Coming off an ACL injury mid-season makes it even worse.

No chance the guy would help in a title push, so I don't see it.
I like his fit. Hardnosed physical wing who's switchable and can match up with 4's. Capable outside shooter (although he didn't shoot particularly well last season).

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That's all well and good. Unfortunately for all his so-called physicality and switchability, he's a terrible defender.

And like you say, he didn't even shoot well last year. So he's great if you want a No-3, No-D wing.

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