Can OKC make a godfather offer for Giannis?

[165bows]

Isn’t that Utah pick in its last year? Also you have Wiggins in the trade and also the rotation.

Yeah if the Utah pick doesn't convey this year its obligation is considered finished.

Two more chances. It is top 10 protected for the 2025 draft and top 8 protected for 2026.

Yeah my bad two years on that one left.

[Clav]

Milwaukee say no.
Don Corleone could make an offer people couldn't refuse because they knew he'd kill them or destroy their careers. The best Presti can do is dangle some picks.

"Real nice franchise you got there... be a shame if something happened to it."

A man drives up in a mobster car... The engine turns off, the door opens, and he steps out with a 3-piece suit, wingtip shoes, a tommy gun, and a fat cuban cigar with smoke idly drifting upwards. A glint in his eyes as Giannis steps out of the bar right as the car stops.

"'Ey You."

Giannis looks up, "Me? Whoa, man I don't want any trouble."

"Yea, you. There's not gonna be no trouble, except for the rest of the NBA."

Presti notices Giannis' apprehension about the gun. "Oh, this ole thing!" Presti pats it lovingly. "Don't worry, champ, this is only loaded with picks."

Giannis nods, "Who are you?"

"Me? I'm known as Sammy, now, leave everything behind, and just get in the cahr."

Giannis then looks behind him... behind him, in the bar, he sees Bobby Portis and Brook Lopez playing darts. They are happy. There's Dame doing shots with Khris, Dame's looking at the clock, seeing if it's time yet. Giannis sees Doc, grinning a huge grin as he has finishes his third beer, and he sees Doc order one more...

Finally, Giannis looks back at the strange man in the film-noir scene. Three more figures step out from the shadows, SGA, Jdub, and Long Legs.

Lightning flashes across the sky from a Larry shaped cloud.

"Join us, Giannis." they echo in unison, as thunder rolls across the dimly lit street. Giannis. Giannis. Giannis... Giannis....

"Get in the car, Freak." Presti hands Giannis the keys [to the franchise] and walks into the bar, turning back with a grin, "I'm gonna make 'em an offer they can't refuse. Dub, where's yous at ? it's yer lucky day, you're up."

[winforlose]

"Hartenstein and picks" would be a comically unserious offer no matter how many mediocre 1st round picks OKC throws in there. And that's the problem with this theoretical "war chest" idea. OKC's own picks for the next 5-7 years would be entirely worthless given the age of that core plus Giannis, and all these 1st's they own from other teams are protected outside of the 2028 Dallas pick (Luka will still only be 29), and a 2025 Clippers pick swap. Cuz yeah, I'm sure OKC would love to add a Top-3 player in the world while leaving literally all of their Top 6-7 player assets intact, while sending zero draft assets that have any possibility of being even Top-5 picks...

yea a deal's not getting down with Chet or Jdub. People overrate picks, especially coming from a team like the thunder.

Honestly, maybe both. The Bucks are able to stay relevant with Giannias and whoever. Giving that up for a ton of future picks and 1 foundation player doesn’t help much. Two foundation players would be tempting.

OKC
SGA/Caruso/Dort/Giannias/IHart
Wallace/Joe/Wiggins/ plus whoever else they develop. That is still a good team. But the lack of shooting might cause more moves.

[Slim Charless]

Their godfather offer will be next year with IHart for matching and picks.
They are contenders now, and their weakest spot is at the 4, they will shower Bucks with picks, no reason to kill their depth.

Yeah. A lineup with Giannis at SF is just silly.

It will be Hartenstein + Topic + Dort and picks. OKC will have the greatest superteam of all time with:

PG SGA
SG Caruso
SF JDub
PF Chet
C Giannis

Unreal.
2 guys with MVP potential (Giannis and SGA)
4 guys with All-Star potential (Giannis, SGA, JDub, Chet)
4 guys with All-Defense potential (Giannis, SGA, Caruso, Chet)

That team would be a major problem.

That's madness though, any trade from OKC for Giannis that didn't involve the word "Chet" gets laughed off the phone if I'm the Bucks.

Replace iHart with Chet, plus the picks and JDub and that works.

[JRoy]

Yeah. A lineup with Giannis at SF is just silly.

It will be Hartenstein + Topic + Dort and picks. OKC will have the greatest superteam of all time with:

PG SGA
SG Caruso
SF JDub
PF Chet
C Giannis

Unreal.
2 guys with MVP potential (Giannis and SGA)
4 guys with All-Star potential (Giannis, SGA, JDub, Chet)
4 guys with All-Defense potential (Giannis, SGA, Caruso, Chet)

That team would be a major problem.

That's madness though, any trade from OKC for Giannis that didn't involve the word "Chet" gets laughed off the phone if I'm the Bucks.

Replace iHart with Chet, plus the picks and JDub and that works.

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

[winforlose]

That team would be a major problem.

That's madness though, any trade from OKC for Giannis that didn't involve the word "Chet" gets laughed off the phone if I'm the Bucks.

Replace iHart with Chet, plus the picks and JDub and that works.

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

I doubt Ginnias is moving for a strong offer. He is like Curry in that he isn’t leaving unless he wants too. If he does want to, for an MVP level player (any given year,) you need to pay through the nose. They will want Chet for sure. Beyond Chet, maybe you can avoid giving up JW, but that would likely cost a lot of extra picks and young players. I don’t see this for at least 3 years, as the Bucks will want to compete.

[facothomas22]

I don't see anyway the Bucks trade Giannis,unless he specifically asked to be traded. Even ignoring that, this isn't enough value being sent out by OKC.

[Slim Charless]

That's madness though, any trade from OKC for Giannis that didn't involve the word "Chet" gets laughed off the phone if I'm the Bucks.

Replace iHart with Chet, plus the picks and JDub and that works.

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

I doubt Ginnias is moving for a strong offer. He is like Curry in that he isn’t leaving unless he wants too. If he does want to, for an MVP level player (any given year,) you need to pay through the nose. They will want Chet for sure. Beyond Chet, maybe you can avoid giving up JW, but that would likely cost a lot of extra picks and young players. I don’t see this for at least 3 years, as the Bucks will want to compete.

I could see him making a request if this next year goes bad. I guess Chet, Topic, Cason Wallace and picks is enough. It'd have to be the prime OKC picks, which means none of theirs. I'd still push for JDub though.

[winforlose]

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

I doubt Ginnias is moving for a strong offer. He is like Curry in that he isn’t leaving unless he wants too. If he does want to, for an MVP level player (any given year,) you need to pay through the nose. They will want Chet for sure. Beyond Chet, maybe you can avoid giving up JW, but that would likely cost a lot of extra picks and young players. I don’t see this for at least 3 years, as the Bucks will want to compete.

I could see him making a request if this next year goes bad. I guess Chet, Topic, Cason Wallace and picks is enough. It'd have to be the prime OKC picks, which means none of theirs. I'd still push for JDub though.

I don’t see any deal without Chet. As for JDub, probably a must. If not Wallace, Topic, and picks wouldn’t work financially. IHart is overpaid, SGA is off limits. The money would be tricky.

Edit to add: To keep both SGA and JDub, you would need the salaries of Dort, Joe, Chet,Wallace, Topic, and if my math is right this is more than Ginnias, so Bucks and OKC need to swap another player. The reason for the swap is that if the Bucks are a second apron team they cannot take one extra penny back, so the math gets really hard. If you trade IHart the math is easier, but the Bucks wouldn’t want IHart, so now you’re in 3 team territory. I am not saying you couldn’t figure it out, but the math would get messy.

[Kizz Fastfists]

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

It doesn't matter what other teams are offering. Are the Bucks willing to trade Giannis? Until you answer yes to that question the value is irrelevant. OKC's offer is absolute garbage just like an offer for Steph Curry would be. The "value" doesn't mater. The players will not be moved for any offer. I say that as an OKC fan. Send me your best pick package offer for SGA and you get laughed at for the same reason.

[SNPA]

Chet/JDub/picks/salary is a quality offer IMO.

[Karmaloop]

Can they? Sure. Will they? Probably not.

[jakecronus8]

OKC could make a strong offer without Chet, an offer tough for any team to beat.

I doubt Ginnias is moving for a strong offer. He is like Curry in that he isn’t leaving unless he wants too. If he does want to, for an MVP level player (any given year,) you need to pay through the nose. They will want Chet for sure. Beyond Chet, maybe you can avoid giving up JW, but that would likely cost a lot of extra picks and young players. I don’t see this for at least 3 years, as the Bucks will want to compete.

I could see him making a request if this next year goes bad.

Then you just don’t know Giannis. Not his style

[Slim Charless]

I doubt Ginnias is moving for a strong offer. He is like Curry in that he isn’t leaving unless he wants too. If he does want to, for an MVP level player (any given year,) you need to pay through the nose. They will want Chet for sure. Beyond Chet, maybe you can avoid giving up JW, but that would likely cost a lot of extra picks and young players. I don’t see this for at least 3 years, as the Bucks will want to compete.

I could see him making a request if this next year goes bad.

Then you just don’t know Giannis. Not his style

Styles change as do people. Nothing makes that happen faster then money and fame.

[JonHeist]

No.

Not even for all 13 first-rounders. Your original offer is completely delusional, it's not even better than the Mikal Bridges package.