Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Beal for Midds discussed last year

[DingleJerry]

I don't have any existing Gary Trent Jr. agendas but apart from being good value on a minimum, would he be a markedly better fit for this team than Malik Beasley? I think of them as being in a similar tier. Is he a better defender?

Is a clear notch or two better overall as a player. Also a better defender, especially if he gets back to putting in better effort on it on a winning team along with likely needing to show it to get another big payday. He's not worth a 4/80-100 type deal if you're trying to win a title, but he's also way better than league min guys like Beasley

[Ron Swanson]

Seems like the easiest decision in the world to me if it comes down to the vet minimum here or the TPMLE ($5.1 million) elsewhere. Trent has to know he'd immediately get the starting gig and that would do more to boost his 2025 free agency prospects than just an extra 3-mil on a team where he'd have to fight for more minutes.

[Licensed to Il]

I remember when the Bucks drafted Gary Trent Sr. Should I retire myself to the Real Gm Old Folks Home?

[Daver]

Trent is fine on the minimum but I think he is holding out hope some team does something dumb to clear their tpmle or he would’ve signed already

Oh and will barton

Maybe the lure of playing with dame again n actuslly hsving a starting gig will sway him or maybe him realizing how msny open 3s he will get will persuade him to take less

[Badgerlander]

I don't have any existing Gary Trent Jr. agendas but apart from being good value on a minimum, would he be a markedly better fit for this team than Malik Beasley? I think of them as being in a similar tier. Is he a better defender?

Is a clear notch or two better overall as a player. Also a better defender, especially if he gets back to putting in better effort on it on a winning team along with likely needing to show it to get another big payday. He's not worth a 4/80-100 type deal if you're trying to win a title, but he's also way better than league min guys like Beasley

Trent gives better effort and awareness as a defender but he’s not as good of a poa defender as Fultz and not as good at creating his own shoot like Fultz or Walker. He’s a 3 and D guy thats been pretty average on D in toronto. I guess if Trent and Dame are good buddies then Trent is a better player than Pat

[Daver]

I don't have any existing Gary Trent Jr. agendas but apart from being good value on a minimum, would he be a markedly better fit for this team than Malik Beasley? I think of them as being in a similar tier. Is he a better defender?

Is a clear notch or two better overall as a player. Also a better defender, especially if he gets back to putting in better effort on it on a winning team along with likely needing to show it to get another big payday. He's not worth a 4/80-100 type deal if you're trying to win a title, but he's also way better than league min guys like Beasley

Trent gives better effort and awareness as a defender but he’s not as good of a poa defender as Fultz and not as good at creating his own shoot like Fultz or Walker. He’s a 3 and D guy thats been pretty average on D in toronto. I guess if Trent and Dame are good buddies then Trent is a better player than Pat

Huh not as good as creating his own shot like fultz you kidding me.Thats one of trents good qualities that he csn create his own shot and does it will.Fultz that dude how can he create his own shot when he sucks at shooting

[Badgerlander]

Is a clear notch or two better overall as a player. Also a better defender, especially if he gets back to putting in better effort on it on a winning team along with likely needing to show it to get another big payday. He's not worth a 4/80-100 type deal if you're trying to win a title, but he's also way better than league min guys like Beasley

Trent gives better effort and awareness as a defender but he’s not as good of a poa defender as Fultz and not as good at creating his own shoot like Fultz or Walker. He’s a 3 and D guy thats been pretty average on D in toronto. I guess if Trent and Dame are good buddies then Trent is a better player than Pat

Huh not as good as creating his own shot like fultz you kidding me.Thats one of trents good qualities that he csn create his own shot and does it will.Fultz that dude how can he create his own shot when he sucks at shooting

Not sure what you mean, Trent is a very good catch and shoot guy but he doesn’t have the handles to create his own shot. 73% of Trent baskets are assisted, 90% of his 3s

[Badgerlander]

Only 43.5% of Fultz buckets were assisted, of course he doesn’t really shoot 3s
58.7% of lonnie walkers buckets were assisted, 71% of his 3s

[Badgerlander]

Saddest part is that all three guys free throw rate is terrible

[ReasonablySober]

I'm not sure how attractive Milwaukee is to Trent, even if it does offer a starting spot. He'd be the fifth option.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm not sure how attractive Milwaukee is to Trent, even if it does offer a starting spot. He'd be the fifth option.

He was the 4th-5th option on a 25-win Raptors team even after they traded away OG and Siakam. Not really sure he's in a position to expect anything more than that.

[DingleJerry]

I'm not sure how attractive Milwaukee is to Trent, even if it does offer a starting spot. He'd be the fifth option.

He was the 5th option on a 25-win Raptors team even after they traded away OG and Siakam. Not really sure he's in a position to expect being anything more than that.

And the extra eyeballs and attention in the playoffs if the team and he does well can be an easy catapult to a big contract. KCP and Bruce Brown are sleeping on a pile of money from it

[fansinceforever]

Will Barton is well done. I hope that's not serious.

[yb90]

I look at Trent as a cross between Beasley and Kelly Oubre Jr. At the minimum it would be a no brainer and even st the TMLE it would be smart. Dump Pat C and call it a day.

[jimmybones]

I can't imagine a better spot to rebuild your value than feasting on Giannis and Dame's gravity and taking practice 3s.

Shoot open 3s, defend better than Malik Beasley, win a ring on the back of a Greek God
???
Profit

[mlloyd10]

I'm not sure how attractive Milwaukee is to Trent, even if it does offer a starting spot. He'd be the fifth option.

You have to figure that Middleton/Lopez will sit out 15 games, Dame 10 games and Giannis 5 games...Plenty of opportunities show what you got. Plus with Brook off the books next year, could be in for a payday.

[WeMajor34]

I think it’s telling no other “contenders” besides us were listed. Shams obviously knows that we’re the premier destination for a starting shooting guard who wants to get a crazy amount of open looks and is reporting as such. Whether or not we get Trent, we most likely keep going down the list with SG’s like Lonnie Walker who fit the bill.

Whether or not Dame and Trent are “close” is beyond the point. There’s a past relationship there from the Portland days and since we already know Dame has been not-so-secretly recruiting someone like Haywood Highsmith, I would not be shocked at the slightest if Dame is doing his due diligence and reaching out.

[crowhead76]

If the Bucks can sign GTJ, maybe then they can try and move Pat, Marjon and the 2031 2nd for Thybulle. Pat and Thybulle both have player options next year, maybe the 2nd and a flyer on Marjon producing closer to home would be enough to get it done. Pat is also a glue guy and could be very helpful for a young team. Thybulle adds an elite wing defender and saves the Bucks a little money. Turn Bobby or Brook into Carter Jr and sign Fultz.

Lillard | Fultz | Johnson
GTJ | Wright | Green
Middleton | Thybulle | AJJ
Giannis | Prince | Livingston | Smith
WCJ | Bobby/Brook

[ShootingtheJ]

I don't have any existing Gary Trent Jr. agendas but apart from being good value on a minimum, would he be a markedly better fit for this team than Malik Beasley? I think of them as being in a similar tier. Is he a better defender?

Is a clear notch or two better overall as a player. Also a better defender, especially if he gets back to putting in better effort on it on a winning team along with likely needing to show it to get another big payday. He's not worth a 4/80-100 type deal if you're trying to win a title, but he's also way better than league min guys like Beasley

A player like GTJ, who was well below replacement level last year, isn't clearly above anyone.

Are you really opining that he didn't realize he needed to defend last year, to either help his team win, or to earn his next contract?

More likely, the guy who can't get 3 rebounds a game just isn't very competitive.

[skbucks1985]

It seems like Trent is biding his time and hoping that something akin to what Buddy Hield got opens up for him. If not, he'll take a minimum deal with a contender, with the Bucks at or near the top of the list. But right now there's no real incentive for him to not wait until after Labor Day.