Miami Heat Off-season Thread Vol. 5 - The One Where We Do Something

[SoFlaKingReal]

So, on these 2 ways, Miami can only play them 50 games a piece? If they play more than that, then they get vet min deals which Miami cannot afford?

Yes, but Miami will be able to convert one two way contract to a standard deal at some point mid season when the prorated amount won’t push them over the 2nd apron.

[DayofMourning]

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Around the 10:30 mark. Thats what I believe. You give another guy an opportunity to grow AND attain good assets.

[DayofMourning]

The last 2 times Mia drafted in the top 10 they got Beasley and Winslow. People conveniently fail to take into account that drafting stars is very much a crap shoot. Yes Mia has done really well drafting in the middle to late first round in recent times, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Midas touch would also carry over to the top end of the draft where it’s boom or bust territory.

I will forever give Miami the benefit of the doubt on drafting Beasley and Winslow. I would have made those picks and everyone else on the planet would have too. Easy picks.

The only miss recently for them was Precious. That was the nadir of Spos psycho smallball nonsense.

KZ was a miss as well. Gave up 3 picks for him. Had some very nice measurables and a game the Heat saw a lot of value in.

[Beenie]

Jimmy is not Steph Curry, he does not have a killer shot that he can get off when ever regardless of his athletics. Jimmy is a out muscle and hustle player. They do not age gracefully. And his ankle? If you haven't noticed the same ankle has been a recurring problem for years. That not going away, it's only going to get more ginger as he ages. And lastly the way the new cba works, if teams continue to pay stars for past performance instead of what they bring in the right now, they are going to find themselves in cap hell really quickly

Strength, hustle and BBIQ do age well as long as you're willing to put in the work, it's the quickness and overall athletic ability that doesn't. Butlers has had his most efficient years in his mid 30s now. It's why LeBron is still going as well as he is.

It could be a long time before Miami can acquire another player near what Butler will be the next few years, had Butler not forced his way to Miami your hopes probably would still be with Winslow being that player who's currently not in the NBA.

Jimmy will always have a high BBIQ, but so will Lowry. Lebron always had a shooters touch naturally. Jimmy doesn't. I'm amazed how efficient Jimmy was considering that his shots are literally as flat as a table, and he did not have as much lift as in years past. But I think everyone can see the sputtering out of his prime and peak abilities like we saw with Wade. You don't pay that max money. This new CBA would put us hell.

Jimmy and Lowry both have high BBIQs, yes

But it’s only Lowry who eats high amounts of BBQ

Jimmy stays in fantastic shape which will be a reason why he ages gracefully

[Pokuokic]

The rule changes as well when it comes to Jimmy will really hurt him more than age imo, drawing fouls will be harder now meaning not as much getting to the line which is a nightmare scenario.

[ZoStrong]

So, on these 2 ways, Miami can only play them 50 games a piece? If they play more than that, then they get vet min deals which Miami cannot afford?

Isn't 50 games pretty decent for most NBA players nowadays anyways? Lol

[ZoStrong]

Strength, hustle and BBIQ do age well as long as you're willing to put in the work, it's the quickness and overall athletic ability that doesn't. Butlers has had his most efficient years in his mid 30s now. It's why LeBron is still going as well as he is.

It could be a long time before Miami can acquire another player near what Butler will be the next few years, had Butler not forced his way to Miami your hopes probably would still be with Winslow being that player who's currently not in the NBA.

Jimmy will always have a high BBIQ, but so will Lowry. Lebron always had a shooters touch naturally. Jimmy doesn't. I'm amazed how efficient Jimmy was considering that his shots are literally as flat as a table, and he did not have as much lift as in years past. But I think everyone can see the sputtering out of his prime and peak abilities like we saw with Wade. You don't pay that max money. This new CBA would put us hell.

Jimmy and Lowry both have high BBIQs, yes

But it’s only Lowry who eats high amounts of BBQ

Jimmy stays in fantastic shape which will be a reason why he ages gracefully

But he doesn't have the graceful game. He will get you tough buckets but not easy buckets. That's why he doesn't play like a super star during the season. He can't last the season playing that way

[iamoti]

If Jaime takes a leap and barring a injury i think he does , this is better than any FA we were linked with. We still have him for 3 seasons for cheap.

I'm excited. We have quite a few young pieces to develop. I have faith in our coaching staff to bring the best out of them. I still have some faith in Herro too. If he buys into a role i think he can contribute.

Healthy motivated Jimmy, healthy Herro and i think we have a good team. I'm not gonna doubt them. Don't sleep on Rozier too. I think he will prove everyone wrong and have a good season.

[RexBoyWonder]

The last 2 times Mia drafted in the top 10 they got Beasley and Winslow. People conveniently fail to take into account that drafting stars is very much a crap shoot. Yes Mia has done really well drafting in the middle to late first round in recent times, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Midas touch would also carry over to the top end of the draft where it’s boom or bust territory.

I will forever give Miami the benefit of the doubt on drafting Beasley and Winslow. I would have made those picks and everyone else on the planet would have too. Easy picks.

The only miss recently for them was Precious. That was the nadir of Spos psycho smallball nonsense.

KZ was a miss as well. Gave up 3 picks for him. Had some very nice measurables and a game the Heat saw a lot of value in.

KZ had the body and look of a Scottie Pippen and the game of a Scottie Pippen Jr.

Man I was high on him...so much potential for so little production..

[Beenie]

Jimmy will always have a high BBIQ, but so will Lowry. Lebron always had a shooters touch naturally. Jimmy doesn't. I'm amazed how efficient Jimmy was considering that his shots are literally as flat as a table, and he did not have as much lift as in years past. But I think everyone can see the sputtering out of his prime and peak abilities like we saw with Wade. You don't pay that max money. This new CBA would put us hell.

Jimmy and Lowry both have high BBIQs, yes

But it’s only Lowry who eats high amounts of BBQ

Jimmy stays in fantastic shape which will be a reason why he ages gracefully

But he doesn't have the graceful game. He will get you tough buckets but not easy buckets. That's why he doesn't play like a super star during the season. He can't last the season playing that way

Took more 3’s last year and shot over 40%

The volume is likely to go up moving forward

Who knows what his % will be on higher volume but if his playoff 3p shooting numbers are any indication, it’ll be a welcomed development

[Lennyzinho]

Jimmy and Lowry both have high BBIQs, yes

But it’s only Lowry who eats high amounts of BBQ

Jimmy stays in fantastic shape which will be a reason why he ages gracefully

But he doesn't have the graceful game. He will get you tough buckets but not easy buckets. That's why he doesn't play like a super star during the season. He can't last the season playing that way

Took more 3’s last year and shot over 40%

The volume is likely to go up moving forward

Who knows what his % will be on higher volume but if his playoff 3p shooting numbers are any indication, it’ll be a welcomed development

Jimmy's 3 ball last year was great. If he shot more of them on catch and shoot situations which he wouldn't, it's still not his primary move. He usually pump fakes and tries to drive. And so many of his misses are shot clock prayers or the player not biting on his pump fakes that he's left no choice but to shoot it. If he just embraces shooting all the open catch and shoots and passes it sooner when he's not open or can't get by a good defender (having more willing scoring options helps this) there's no reason to believe he can't be a 40% shooter on higher volume. His shot looks good. It's a little flat sometimes and not as pure like a Duncan or steph but it's consistent. And he's always shooting 3s on his IG stories last couple years.

[dshearn]

If Jaime takes a leap and barring a injury i think he does , this is better than any FA we were linked with. We still have him for 3 seasons for cheap.

I'm excited. We have quite a few young pieces to develop. I have faith in our coaching staff to bring the best out of them. I still have some faith in Herro too. If he buys into a role i think he can contribute.

Healthy motivated Jimmy, healthy Herro and i think we have a good team. I'm not gonna doubt them. Don't sleep on Rozier too. I think he will prove everyone wrong and have a good season.

Could not agree more....

I enjoy watching the young guys develop more then I do hoping a team of FA mesh...

I like they got JJJ into summer league as the primary, spun him up to get him jump started....and pulled him out with out injury. He Is the closest thing we have to an iron man. I wonder if he ends up with almost a Herro 6th man of year kinda of freedom this year.

[greg4012]

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Jimmy will always have a high BBIQ, but so will Lowry. Lebron always had a shooters touch naturally. Jimmy doesn't. I'm amazed how efficient Jimmy was considering that his shots are literally as flat as a table, and he did not have as much lift as in years past. But I think everyone can see the sputtering out of his prime and peak abilities like we saw with Wade. You don't pay that max money. This new CBA would put us hell.

Jimmy and Lowry both have high BBIQs, yes

But it’s only Lowry who eats high amounts of BBQ

Jimmy stays in fantastic shape which will be a reason why he ages gracefully

But he doesn't have the graceful game. He will get you tough buckets but not easy buckets. That's why he doesn't play like a super star during the season. He can't last the season playing that way

Sure, his scoring is based off effort, but 19 of his 60 games he took less than 12 shots while putting up a TS% of .626 which is pretty great for a guy who doesn't shoot many 3s nor is a rim running center. All Butler really has to do is look to score a little bit more in those games, maybe put up some lazy jumpers, his TS% probably drops but his PPG should go up which is what most people are upset with Butler about. I see it like Phoenix game that first year in Miami, he dropped 30 in the first half because people complained about him not being a scorer. Do I think he could be a 30 ppg guy, no, that would be way too much work for him and his rough on his body because he doesn't have some attribute (as previously stated) that lets him get easy baskets, but I think he could get to 23-25 ppg if he wanted to put up more shots while dropping his efficiency.

I'm interested in what happens this season, I think some problems are going to popup in the locker room with adding Butler to the mix of people looking for more shots to go along with Bam, Herro, Rozier and Jaquez Jr.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jimmy and Bam will both be respectable shooters next season, I expect Jimmy to pick up where he left off but on higher volume, maybe not quite as efficient but up there around 38%-40% hopefully.

Bam obviously won’t shoot 50% on 2 a game like he did the last 2 months of the season but if he could be around 36%-38% on 3 attempts it will be a good base to start working with and improve over the years, Bosh’s best season was 37% on 4 attempts

[Beenie]

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The rich get richer, at least we got Dru Smkth back tho!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I think 5reasons was pushing this narrative hard, they were wrong lol. Yall gotta stop believing those dudes

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