Current offer on the table for Lauri

[floppymoose]

lol at a Sixers fan dying for GS to make this trade.

[elchengue20]

lol at a Sixers fan dying for GS to make this trade.

Just my honest take, i like Steph and doesn't deserve this.

But hey, keep building around Kuminga, Podziesmki and a couple of late lottery picks in the next few drafts.

Thats going to be an aweseome 47 win team in 2029!

[floppymoose]

A 47 win team that has draft picks is better than a 48 win team that doesnt.

[CDM_Stats]

lol at a Sixers fan dying for GS to make this trade.

Just my honest take, i like Steph and doesn't deserve this.

But hey, keep building around Kuminga, Podziesmki and a couple of late lottery picks in the next few drafts.

Thats going to be an aweseome 47 win team in 2029!

The fact that the youth isnt a title team doesnt change the fact that adding Lauri won't make this current team a title team. It also ensures the Warriors wont have any safety net when age crumples the team, and a little bit beyond it

The team's chance at having a legitimate slim shot to contend next year went out the window when PG declined his option.. compounding the mistake by throwing all assets towards a plan B that hurts the defense - the way the team actually won titles - would be much worse

[elchengue20]

A 47 win team that has draft picks is better than a 48 win team that doesnt.

If you believe this team is so far away, just trade Steph for a haul and be done with it.


Allow him to compete for a ring in the end of his prime and put steroids to your rebuilding process.


The middle ground makes no sense at all, neither for GS or Curry.

[floppymoose]

You might have different goals from the team. Steph and GS may both want to stay together, even if it's not the way to maximize contention for both parties.

I'm operating under the assumption that Steph is staying for the duration.

We've seen teams sacrifice the future for contention. Nets... Suns... most of the time it doesnt work. (Maybe it will work for Minny?) Meanwhile teams that have worked through the draft have done ok. GSW, DEN, BOS.

[Onus]

Trading for a bad fit just because its the only option left is everything ownership said they weren't

I'm all for trading making a trade, but I'm for selling high and buying low. 4 1sts for Lauri is not buying low, its not even buying medium

How is the best off ball big man in the entire league a bad fit?

By being one the worst off ball big men defensively

I really don't see him being one of the worst off ball big men defensively.

https://watchreplay.net/thunder-vs-jazz-february-6-2024/20511/

I see terrible communication throughout the team along with bad defenders where people start randomly rotating. But teams don't try to attack Lauri like he's some massive liability. I mean sure there are some bad plays there but it's not some achilles heel that would tank a defense. He's definitely not a rim protector and he doesn't help early enough as a center. But the defense behind him is terrible. He has the tools to be a solid defender and he's not some liability in isolation.

[EvanZ]

You might have different goals from the team. Steph and GS may both want to stay together, even if it' snot the way to maximize contention for both parties.

Well that's a problem. Last I checked the main goal of a pro sports franchise is to win. If we're not talking about winning, then what are we even doing here.

[Impuniti]

A 47 win team that has draft picks is better than a 48 win team that doesnt.

If you believe this team is so far away, just trade Steph for a haul and be done with it.


Allow him to compete for a ring in the end of his prime and put steroids to your rebuilding process.


The middle ground makes no sense at all, neither for GS or Curry.

I simply don't understand why people think this team will be the same as last season unless Dray/Steph age quickly and there's a lot of injuries which is certainly possible. The Warriors removed their two worst defenders by a significant margin. Those 2 were also 2/4 very old guys that Kerr kept overplaying like a complete lunatic over and over again. Even though it was obvious that the team was severely hurting in the 4th quarter getting consistently outplayed due to almost every team having more energy than them (which.. made sense to everyone except for Kerr and the useless excuse of a staff they had).

They now got two really great defenders, and a Klay without the ego/expectations of playtime. Klay last season as a 15MPG off the bench to see when he got hot would have been a + for the team if he played vs the opposing teams' bench units. That's what Buddy should be doing this upcoming season as his defense is kind of crap.

If this team is not severely injured, they will win 5-10 more games than last season as they are currently constructed. The issues still remain lacking an actual #2, shooting/spacing, some rebounding, and a good back solid defensive center. Lauri would cover 3/4, and you're left hoping the Donn can find some solid backup big to complete the squad. Maybe the season turns to ****, but he's done a great job so far into the summer.

This team also desperately needed some coaches that aren't 'yes men'. The laughable and quite honestly insane coaching lineups Kerr was putting out last season needed someone to get in some serious arguments with him until he changed paths. I can't do another season of this idiotic 4 guard lineup.

[CDM_Stats]

How is the best off ball big man in the entire league a bad fit?

By being one the worst off ball big men defensively

I really don't see him being one of the worst off ball big men defensively.

https://watchreplay.net/thunder-vs-jazz-february-6-2024/20511/

I see terrible communication throughout the team along with bad defenders where people start randomly rotating. But teams don't try to attack Lauri like he's some massive liability. I mean sure there are some bad plays there but it's not some achilles heel that would tank a defense. He's definitely not a rim protector and he doesn't help early enough as a center. But the defense behind him is terrible. He has the tools to be a solid defender and he's not some liability in isolation.

lol look if you want to believe he's some competent defender, that's fine. I have no problem with faith, people have it in all kinds of players on this board

But if you are going to keep showing me individual things and one game clips as if its going to undo the data I see, or think I'm incapable of seeing a good defender (or even average defender) that's just been straddled to some bad defenses, then I have nothing to say about that. He had great defenders behind him in CLE and was still a well below average defender. He's a very poor help defender. And also, not for nothing, but bad defenses hide bad defenders just as much as they hire good defenders. But the reality is, he's poor at covering ground, poor at closeouts, poor at rotations, really below average in PnR defense, obviously brings little to the table in terms of rim protection, doesnt tip passes, and peaks as an on-ball defender as below average, and only against 4s. That's the data, it's not gonna change. But considering we've already seen him on a good defensive team and he still was below average, why would I think he's going to buck all these odds and be capable here?

[elchengue20]

You might have different goals from the team. Steph and GS may both want to stay together, even if it's not the way to maximize contention for both parties.

I'm operating under the assumption that Steph is staying for the duration.

We've seen teams sacrifice the future for contention. Nets... Suns... most of the time it doesnt work. (Maybe it will work for Minny?) Meanwhile teams that have worked through the draft have done ok. GSW, DEN, BOS.

Milwakee went all in, traded for Jrue and have their 1st championship in decades to show for it. Lakers traded all their future for AD and have a ring to show for it, even when being a mess of an organization. Toronto traded for a Khawi rental and that's how they won probably their only championship in history.

Building and overthinking is nice, but if you have a Superstar (even more one with a short window) it's better to be in win now mode, stay in contention and try to take advantage of the present.

Not trading your #2 pick for quality proven nba ready players was a huge mistake and you don't wake up, you want to keep doing the same.

[whatisacenter]

You might have different goals from the team. Steph and GS may both want to stay together, even if it's not the way to maximize contention for both parties.

I'm operating under the assumption that Steph is staying for the duration.

We've seen teams sacrifice the future for contention. Nets... Suns... most of the time it doesnt work. (Maybe it will work for Minny?) Meanwhile teams that have worked through the draft have done ok. GSW, DEN, BOS.

Milwakee went all in, traded for Jrue and have their 1st championship in decades to show for it. Lakers traded all their future for AD and have a ring to show for it, even when being a mess of an organization. Toronto traded for a Khawi rental and that's how they won probably their only championship in history.

Building and overthinking is nice, but if you have a Superstar (even more one with a short window) it's better to be in win now mode, stay in contention and try to take advantage of the present.

Not trading your #2 pick for quality proven nba ready players was a huge mistake and you don't wake up, you want to keep doing the same.

Warriors already won another title(#4) after not trading their #2,#7 and #14 pick....they have proven NBA players and have since 2020 so that's a bad take, IMO.

[floppymoose]

Yes, MIL Jrue is the success story. But Jrue defends. I was a much bigger fan of that move than of this Lauri deal. The Bucks were contenders already and Jrue put them over the top. GSW is not in that situation, and Lauri is no 2020 Jrue.

[elchengue20]

You might have different goals from the team. Steph and GS may both want to stay together, even if it's not the way to maximize contention for both parties.

I'm operating under the assumption that Steph is staying for the duration.

We've seen teams sacrifice the future for contention. Nets... Suns... most of the time it doesnt work. (Maybe it will work for Minny?) Meanwhile teams that have worked through the draft have done ok. GSW, DEN, BOS.

Milwakee went all in, traded for Jrue and have their 1st championship in decades to show for it. Lakers traded all their future for AD and have a ring to show for it, even when being a mess of an organization. Toronto traded for a Khawi rental and that's how they won probably their only championship in history.

Building and overthinking is nice, but if you have a Superstar (even more one with a short window) it's better to be in win now mode, stay in contention and try to take advantage of the present.

Not trading your #2 pick for quality proven nba ready players was a huge mistake and you don't wake up, you want to keep doing the same.

Warriors already won another title(#4) after not trading their #2,#7 and #14 pick....they have proven NBA players and have since 2020 so that's a bad take, IMO.

Those players didn't contribute to your 4th championship, and now are either busts or treadmil players that won't get you over the hump.

If you traded those picks for more nba ready players maybe you could already won another championship and be on the way to winning another one.

Your take makes little to no sense.But hey, have fun with a 45 win team for the next decade.

[vvoland]

Trading for a bad fit just because its the only option left is everything ownership said they weren't

I'm all for trading making a trade, but I'm for selling high and buying low. 4 1sts for Lauri is not buying low, its not even buying medium

How is the best off ball big man in the entire league a bad fit?

By being one the worst off ball big men defensively

While that cleveland team had good defenders, it was not a winning situation. I'm curious, was there much in Wiggins' tracking data that showed him to be a good (near all-defense team) defender, particularly off-ball when he was in Minny? I'm just curious if there was an obviously terrific off-ball defender in Minnesota that we were able to identify before other teams did or if it's just a fluke.

I'm not a huge fan of Lauri but if we're only giving up picks and MM, I'm game. That's mostly because I don't value picks nearly as much as you do. That said, is there a world where, given a chance to win at a high level, Lauri becomes an average defender? He doesn't need to be good, just not a huge drain. Is that really an impossibility or so unlikely that it's not really possible? With his strength, size, and decent quickness is his defensive ceiling really this low?

[whatisacenter]

Milwakee went all in, traded for Jrue and have their 1st championship in decades to show for it. Lakers traded all their future for AD and have a ring to show for it, even when being a mess of an organization. Toronto traded for a Khawi rental and that's how they won probably their only championship in history.

Building and overthinking is nice, but if you have a Superstar (even more one with a short window) it's better to be in win now mode, stay in contention and try to take advantage of the present.

Not trading your #2 pick for quality proven nba ready players was a huge mistake and you don't wake up, you want to keep doing the same.

Warriors already won another title(#4) after not trading their #2,#7 and #14 pick....they have proven NBA players and have since 2020 so that's a bad take, IMO.

Those players didn't contribute to your 4th championship, and now are either busts or treadmil players that won't get you over the hump.

If you traded those picks for more nba ready players maybe you could already won another championship and be on the way to winning another one.

Your take makes little to no sense.But hey, have fun with a 45 win team for the next decade.

I’ve been a warriors fan since the 80’s so 45 win seasons for a decade would be the second most successful decade of my fandom!

[Jax_23]

In an instant

[Jax_23]

A 47 win team that has draft picks is better than a 48 win team that doesnt.

If you believe this team is so far away, just trade Steph for a haul and be done with it.


Allow him to compete for a ring in the end of his prime and put steroids to your rebuilding process.


The middle ground makes no sense at all, neither for GS or Curry.

I simply don't understand why people think this team will be the same as last season unless Dray/Steph age quickly and there's a lot of injuries which is certainly possible. The Warriors removed their two worst defenders by a significant margin. Those 2 were also 2/4 very old guys that Kerr kept overplaying like a complete lunatic over and over again. Even though it was obvious that the team was severely hurting in the 4th quarter getting consistently outplayed due to almost every team having more energy than them (which.. made sense to everyone except for Kerr and the useless excuse of a staff they had).

They now got two really great defenders, and a Klay without the ego/expectations of playtime. Klay last season as a 15MPG off the bench to see when he got hot would have been a + for the team if he played vs the opposing teams' bench units. That's what Buddy should be doing this upcoming season as his defense is kind of crap.

If this team is not severely injured, they will win 5-10 more games than last season as they are currently constructed. The issues still remain lacking an actual #2, shooting/spacing, some rebounding, and a good back solid defensive center. Lauri would cover 3/4, and you're left hoping the Donn can find some solid backup big to complete the squad. Maybe the season turns to ****, but he's done a great job so far into the summer.

This team also desperately needed some coaches that aren't 'yes men'. The laughable and quite honestly insane coaching lineups Kerr was putting out last season needed someone to get in some serious arguments with him until he changed paths. I can't do another season of this idiotic 4 guard lineup.

"they will win 5-10 more games than last season as they are currently constructed."

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Based on a 4-time champ who was 4th in 3PM last year being banished from the team and replaced by the youngin who couldn't even keep his starting spot when "old man Klay" went to the bench? Or is low bball iq Hield the Klay-replacing hero that's gonna get us over the top Lol. ok den....

[clyde21]

lol at a Sixers fan dying for GS to make this trade.

Just my honest take, i like Steph and doesn't deserve this.

But hey, keep building around Kuminga, Podziesmki and a couple of late lottery picks in the next few drafts.

Thats going to be an aweseome 47 win team in 2029!

you're like a mosquito here, go worry about your Sixers bruv

[CDM_Stats]

Milwakee went all in, traded for Jrue and have their 1st championship in decades to show for it. Lakers traded all their future for AD and have a ring to show for it, even when being a mess of an organization. Toronto traded for a Khawi rental and that's how they won probably their only championship in history.

Building and overthinking is nice, but if you have a Superstar (even more one with a short window) it's better to be in win now mode, stay in contention and try to take advantage of the present.

Not trading your #2 pick for quality proven nba ready players was a huge mistake and you don't wake up, you want to keep doing the same.

Warriors already won another title(#4) after not trading their #2,#7 and #14 pick....they have proven NBA players and have since 2020 so that's a bad take, IMO.

Those players didn't contribute to your 4th championship, and now are either busts or treadmil players that won't get you over the hump.

If you traded those picks for more nba ready players maybe you could already won another championship and be on the way to winning another one.

Your take makes little to no sense.But hey, have fun with a 45 win team for the next decade.

you are very black and white about this.. what if the belief is that Lauri doesnt make us a contender? I get the idea of going all one direction or not, but the truth is the team hesitated, sat on the fence, and has missed plenty of opportunities to go one way or the other. And now we're staring the worst opportunity in the face - a 1-way player who is going to cost the team's immediate and long-term future

I mean I'd rather trade Steph and let him keep contending and have the Warriors do a proper rebuild, but they arent gonna do that. I would have been happy if they plugged JK into a Clippers trade and landed PG, because he was the marquee impact player and that at least would have been a legit all-in move that fit. But Lauri? That's limping into "win-now" territory while costing all future assets. Pass.. easy, easy pass