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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2041 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:03 am

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Sabotaging their own party. This is closed door discussion and these fuggin people wanna do this in the public eye? I am sorry. I am losing what little faith I had in this party to begin with. The biggest reason I registered was never Trump! Here they are trying to hand him ANOTHER election on a silver fuggin platter! He never should have won last time but, they got cocky and blew it in the bottom of the 9th!

I'm beginning to think this is what they WANT to happen! Big reset! This gets worse by the day.


The Democrats need to focus on 2028 at this point. A last minute replacement isn’t winning this election. On the bright side is the potential for this to spur the democrats into action to fix the issues in their party.


Fuq both parties and their BS! Bring me a candidate that wants to fix them issues facing their COUNTRY! Bunch of fuggin lying ass crooks can't even make common sense decisions!!! FUQ THESE LOSERS!

Just gotta win 2024 and just as important WIN DOWN BALLOT.
Okay great we got Weekend at Bidens, but we need to control enough in both chambers of congress to hold the supreme court accountable, clean that out through impeachment AND conviction AND then play for 2026 mid-terms to continue that agenda.
If we don't win now, there wont be a real election in 2028.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2042 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:05 am

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spree8 wrote:There’s some new wild shyt coming out now about the shooting :o


?? links pleeeze




https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/trump-assassination-attempt-investigation-continues-new-details/story?id=112020474


SS and local authorities knew he was on the roof for 20 minutes and still let Trump take the stage. They took zero precaution after the SS was alerted there was a “designated threat on the roof”

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Also, that very first pic that came out of him sitting on the ground was taken by a sniper who was watching him after he was labeled a “person of interest”.


Then just saw this interview with Town Manager Tom Knight…


https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/trump-assassination-attempt-butler-township-manager-gives-details-on-officer-s-encounter-with-shooter/vi-BB1q6kyg?ocid=socialshare#details

https://nypost.com/2024/07/17/us-news/local-cop-who-interrupted-thomas-crooks-but-failed-to-stop-him-is-a-hero-who-saved-trumps-life-sheriff-says/


So there’s an NBC version of an interview with him that I saw on YouTube and on Fox News that are totally different. On YouTube they completely cut off the part where he 100% verifies that the local police had joint/shared communications with the SS, and the cop who saw the shooter and fell to the ground along with the cop he was with, both immediately called in to the SS and informed them the guy on the roof is armed.

That’s a huge deal. I wonder why NBC is cutting it out of every video on the web, but they should’ve got Trump off stage and snipers should’ve shot the dude since he was armed, in position, and drew down on a cop. At least in these two links you can see him verifying that there was direct coms to the SS.


it's just strange... being simultaneously bad at protection and assassination...
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2043 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:06 am

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As a hater of the current GOP, I have to say this video is trash.
1) Taco Bell is awesome
2) It does not sound like she was dating the guy, it sounds like she was an onlyfans girl he subscribed to
3) Not even sure if she is credible, no receipts.


"Dating" was my first thought :lol:

Somebody didn't pay up. He's got a wife and family too. Or had. Shame.


Yeah exactly :lol: "dating" means he was booking her.

Prostitution is pretty much out in the open on Twitter now that Musk has made it 4chan 2.0. Onlyfans models routinely offer opportunities for guys to "book their services" on there because if they get caught on OnlyFans selling pussy they'll get banned.

Don't ask me how i know that.


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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2044 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:07 am

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omerome wrote:What pisses me off is, okay, Biden drops out. Then what?

Who are they planning on campaigning this close to the election? Early voting starts very soon and Biden didn't suddenly get old. He's already been old. The writing has been on the wall for years and now, they want him to step down.

By doing so, they will hand the US to the GOP because Biden drops, and Kamala is not popular at all to pick up the pieces of what would be a disaster of a campaign. And again, who would be the next option?

I swear, the Democrats are Charlie Brown and thinking that Lucy will NEVER let go of the ball and each time she does and laughs at him when he falls.

People have already gone through the primaries and there is no looming name in the background that will immediately get people excited unless they can somehow get Michelle Obama to run, which is already a fool's errand.

MSM already has been complicit by focusing on any Biden gaffes and ignoring all the lies, horrible proposals from Project 2025 that the former resident wants to implement on day one of his second term, and how horrible our current GOP lead House of Representatives is being run. They only care about a story and not informing the viewer.

It's sickening.


Yep. I called this 4 years ago when COVID Joe was allowed to steal the nomination from Bernie by hiding in his Bunker. I was surprised he won honestly. They should have limited him to one term and brought out the big guns to make sure Trump was never allowed to sniff his drugs and shyt his pants in the White House ever again!


Bernie didn't appeal to Southern Black voters and his base doesn't vote.

I like the guy a lot. But that's just how it played out.


It wasn't about Bernie though. He was robbed and Biden didn't even campaign for the job. Total BULLSHYT. He had a huge grass roots following back then. Don't kid yourself. The young voters would have came out in droves for that crazy old fuq.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2045 » by wompwomp » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:12 am

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Republicans are so much better at going back home when time comes no matter who it is. Meanwhile, democrats always do this purity test staying home and both side is the same BS and then the cycle continues of just holding the line in the next election cycle. .


Yep. Instead of rallying and circling the wagons, Dems start firing in a circle because they want perfect instead of good. It's one of the most frustrating things about this system.


I was listening to an interview with Alan Litchman, the history professor who predicts elections and I believe he summed it up perfectly. Republicans have no morals and Democrats have no spine. It’s been 2 weeks of wasted media time talking about Biden that should have been laser focused on Trump. This is a media problem no doubt but Democrats have just given Republicans a gift with their public infighting.


Yea I seen him a few times too and its true. Mitch the turtle snatched two Supreme court seats and he was like optics be damned. He knew it was worth it and the optics would blow over and knew the DEM wouldn't do a damn thing. The way democrats pushed put Al Franken out still annoys me. He was smart and a perfect foe for someone bombastic like trump. If democrats werent good at policy and governance like they are, I wouldnt be able to stand them.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2046 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:12 am

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The Democrats need to focus on 2028 at this point. A last minute replacement isn’t winning this election. On the bright side is the potential for this to spur the democrats into action to fix the issues in their party.


Fuq both parties and their BS! Bring me a candidate that wants to fix them issues facing their COUNTRY! Bunch of fuggin lying ass crooks can't even make common sense decisions!!! FUQ THESE LOSERS!

Just gotta win 2024 and just as important WIN DOWN BALLOT.
Okay great we got Weekend at Bidens, but we need to control enough in both chambers of congress to hold the supreme court accountable, clean that out through impeachment AND conviction AND then play for 2026 mid-terms to continue that agenda.
If we don't win now, there wont be a real election in 2028.


I am still gonna vote but, this is just a huge pile of BS! Trump has to go away and shyt his diapers in Mar a Lago until they lock his as up for the crimes he can't escape by winning the election. I am just getting extremely frustrated with all of this.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2047 » by omerome » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:16 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Fuq both parties and their BS! Bring me a candidate that wants to fix them issues facing their COUNTRY! Bunch of fuggin lying ass crooks can't even make common sense decisions!!! FUQ THESE LOSERS!

Just gotta win 2024 and just as important WIN DOWN BALLOT.
Okay great we got Weekend at Bidens, but we need to control enough in both chambers of congress to hold the supreme court accountable, clean that out through impeachment AND conviction AND then play for 2026 mid-terms to continue that agenda.
If we don't win now, there wont be a real election in 2028.


I am still gonna vote but, this is just a huge pile of BS! Trump has to go away and shyt his diapers in Mar a Lago until they lock his as up for the crimes he can't escape by winning the election. I am just getting extremely frustrated with all of this.

Sadly, they don't call him Teflon Don for nothing.

Bob Menendez was charged and found guilty of corruption and we can all guarantee that his punishment will be much worse than the other guy because Teflon Don could kick a baby on live television and people would still call the baby fake and get away with it.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2048 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:20 am

FUQ THIS BULLSHYT! I'M GOING TO GET DRUNK AND ENJOY MY NIGHT! FUQQING GOD DAMNED SONS OF BYTCHES!!
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2049 » by NYKat » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:21 am

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Just want to actually get an answer to this question from a Trumper (third try in this thread)
What could Donald do prior to November that would render him un-electable in your eyes? What would he have to do to lose your vote?
Is there a stance he could take? A personal event (shooting someone, or an animal)? anything at all?

I'm sure there are a few answers to this. But what he certainly could do, is offer a bunch of socialist ideas to destroy the country. That would definitely lose my vote.


Can you be a little more specific?

There are a ton of policies that are "socialist"
For example retirement, social security, medicare, the VA.

What is a "socialist" program that if Trump supported he would lose your vote?


Thank you.

I hate this “socialism” word being thrown around like some foreign abnormal concept as if half of the programs that all Americans take for granted aren’t socialistic in nature.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2050 » by Pointgod » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:22 am

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Post#2051 » by NYKat » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:27 am

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I was literally just about to say this too…

Is there any real sensible, tangible reason why she would be rejected by the electorate?

We know many libs and independents alike are looking for literally anybody outside of Trump/Biden


She's a Black woman. That's two strikes against her in America.

We can have conversations about this another time, but racism and misogyny aren't exclusive to the right.


Probably the three biggest reasons were a) her lack of popularity during the 2020 primaries b) the groan when she was selected VP and c) until recently it would have been easy to forget she existed as VP

Aside from her sitting in the job and being who she is and I suppose the words on her resume, she does not have any big legislative successes to rest on, no big platform she champions etc. Aside from her demographics (and that she is not trump) she really does not have anything to drive a vote.


I suppose but I feel like the bar is pretty low for a Biden replacement. Just don’t stare off into space like you’re in a catatonic state and be able to deliver a coherent speech…. And of course don’t be Trump.

I feel like all liberals would get behind her, why can’t she pull the independents and people who are looking for a Trump alternative?
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Post#2052 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:30 am

I saw a report that Biden has COVID. Anyone else see this?

Also, Dana Bash at CNN allegedly has information that Biden will pass the torch over to Harris.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2053 » by Pointgod » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:30 am

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It’s weird for real when a replacement isn’t named. What’s really going on….

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Sabotaging their own party. This is closed door discussion and these fuggin people wanna do this in the public eye? I am sorry. I am losing what little faith I had in this party to begin with. The biggest reason I registered was never Trump! Here they are trying to hand him ANOTHER election on a silver fuggin platter! He never should have won last time but, they got cocky and blew it in the bottom of the 9th!

I'm beginning to think this is what they WANT to happen! Big reset! This gets worse by the day.

What pisses me off is, okay, Biden drops out. Then what?

Who are they planning on campaigning this close to the election? Early voting starts very soon and Biden didn't suddenly get old. He's already been old. The writing has been on the wall for years and now, they want him to step down.

By doing so, they will hand the US to the GOP because Biden drops, and Kamala is not popular at all to pick up the pieces of what would be a disaster of a campaign. And again, who would be the next option?

I swear, the Democrats are Charlie Brown and thinking that Lucy will NEVER let go of the ball and each time she does and laughs at him when he falls.

People have already gone through the primaries and there is no looming name in the background that will immediately get people excited unless they can somehow get Michelle Obama to run, which is already a fool's errand.

MSM already has been complicit by focusing on any Biden gaffes and ignoring all the lies, horrible proposals from Project 2025 that the former resident wants to implement on day one of his second term, and how horrible our current GOP lead House of Representatives is being run. They only care about a story and not informing the viewer.

It's sickening.


It’s not even Democrats but a small number of Democratic politicians and dipshits in the media and on social media. These guys are playing fantasy basketball with politics but they’d rather lose than just do the easy work of supporting Biden and focusing on Trump.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2054 » by NYKat » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:36 am

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She's a Black woman. That's two strikes against her in America.

We can have conversations about this another time, but racism and misogyny aren't exclusive to the right.


I’ve had this debate with some family members who echo your sentiment, and call me naive but I don’t believe that simply race and gender is enough to stop a good candidate.

Barak was two terms, and Michelle has some of the highest favorable ratings among anyone in the political landscape. We can debate whether she is a good enough candidate or not but I reject that it’s as simple as race and gender in 2024.


Obama is the exception. Not the rule.

Sounds messed up right?


Obama was just a great candidate, intelligent, charming, funny, principled, diplomatic and smooth… but he proved that America will vote for a good candidate regardless of race so I refuse to accept that race is a barrier in this day in age…

but we can agree to disagree on that, I’ve had this debate more than I care admit, and I don’t like taking a position that racists and right wingers would empathize with.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2055 » by Neutral 123 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:50 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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nykballa2k4 wrote:
Just want to actually get an answer to this question from a Trumper (third try in this thread)
What could Donald do prior to November that would render him un-electable in your eyes? What would he have to do to lose your vote?
Is there a stance he could take? A personal event (shooting someone, or an animal)? anything at all?

I'm sure there are a few answers to this. But what he certainly could do, is offer a bunch of socialist ideas to destroy the country. That would definitely lose my vote.


Can you be a little more specific?

There are a ton of policies that are "socialist"
For example retirement, social security, medicare, the VA.

What is a "socialist" program that if Trump supported he would lose your vote?

Anything involving a massive transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to the government that isn't necessary to have a functioning government. It's not likely to actually get a cut to counterproductive subsidies, but at least cut back on some of these government positions where people are actually getting paid to slow wealth creation.

What I support. Revolutionizing education through school choice. Every parent should have a right to send their child to a school that isn't failing and has no incentive to improve. Make neighborhoods safer by locking up dangerous predators that harm women, children and society in general.

Let's cut as much red tape as possible so that those with limited knowledge on how to navigate and pay for a bunch of permits and licensing, can actually get into business. Let's get rid of the gatekeeping.

A country with so many regulations that cops have to come out to shut down kids running a lemonade stand is disgusting. Let's leave people's sexual activities and kinks back in the bedroom and out of the public and absolutely out of the schools.

Let's secure our borders so that the taxpayer isn't forced to fund people whose first act in America was to commit a crime. If Dems want more immigrants, then by all means they can earn support for that legally and change immigration laws. But as it stands, this is criminal.
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Post#2056 » by Neutral 123 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:02 am

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Neutral 123 wrote:I'm sure there are a few answers to this. But what he certainly could do, is offer a bunch of socialist ideas to destroy the country. That would definitely lose my vote.


Can you be a little more specific?

There are a ton of policies that are "socialist"
For example retirement, social security, medicare, the VA.

What is a "socialist" program that if Trump supported he would lose your vote?


Thank you.

I hate this “socialism” word being thrown around like some foreign abnormal concept as if half of the programs that all Americans take for granted aren’t socialistic in nature.

Socialism is an ideal. Free markets are an ideal. Neither will exist perfectly. The socialist ideal is that our intellectual and moral superiors should organize society as they see fit.

Free markets means a society where individuals are free to make their own decisions and associate with who they choose. These ideals are opposite of each other.

I'm not sure how you improve America with policies that result in a far lower standard of living. When you look at GDP per capita, all of these countries have relatively free markets. And the only ones that beat America that have more of these socialistic policies are awash with oil.

Many of these poorer countries are poorer despite a population that is higher skilled and more educated. These policies are a weight on their necks destroying productivity.

And look, if someone wants to live a mediocre life, that is their business. I just don't support forcing that on everyone else by crippling those with ambition.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#2057 » by robillionaire » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:13 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:I saw a report that Biden has COVID. Anyone else see this?

Also, Dana Bash at CNN allegedly has information that Biden will pass the torch over to Harris.


Another day another wild news cycle

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Post#2059 » by omerome » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:27 am

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
Neutral 123 wrote:I'm sure there are a few answers to this. But what he certainly could do, is offer a bunch of socialist ideas to destroy the country. That would definitely lose my vote.


Can you be a little more specific?

There are a ton of policies that are "socialist"
For example retirement, social security, medicare, the VA.

What is a "socialist" program that if Trump supported he would lose your vote?

Anything involving a massive transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to the government that isn't necessary to have a functioning government. It's not likely to actually get a cut to counterproductive subsidies, but at least cut back on some of these government positions where people are actually getting paid to slow wealth creation.

What I support. Revolutionizing education through school choice. Every parent should have a right to send their child to a school that isn't failing and has no incentive to improve. Make neighborhoods safer by locking up dangerous predators that harm women, children and society in general.

Let's cut as much red tape as possible so that those with limited knowledge on how to navigate and pay for a bunch of permits and licensing, can actually get into business. Let's get rid of the gatekeeping.

A country with so many regulations that cops have to come out to shut down kids running a lemonade stand is disgusting. Let's leave people's sexual activities and kinks back in the bedroom and out of the public and absolutely out of the schools.

Let's secure our borders so that the taxpayer isn't forced to fund people whose first act in America was to commit a crime. If Dems want more immigrants, then by all means they can earn support for that legally and change immigration laws. But as it stands, this is criminal.

First of all, parents have school choice. If they don't like the schools in their area, they already have options. They can put them in private schools or even home-school them. An alternative instead should be raising the standards at a Federal level and even look at how other developed nations do so, and use that as a baseline. Education is very important, but implementing things like vouchers is just enriching the families who already have the funds to send their kids to the best schools and make them even richer. Besides, we've already seen proposals from GOP individuals who claim to be pro-life and refuse to feed kids while they are in class. And everyone should know that a hungry child is a child that is not learning. And children who are not learning result in failing schools.

And a country with regulations is not the problem, it's how they are implemented. Want cops to stop shutting down kids running a lemonade stand? Get the right people to change how police should be utilized.

Also, going back to education and with the topic of keeping sexual activities and kinks out of schools, there aint no teacher worth their salt that is spending time doing that instead of teaching important subjects with a full curriculum for a specific grade. Teachers literally don't have time to do that. They have to teach kids what they need to know, so that when they're older, they are prepared for the real world. Any teacher doing anything else shouldn't be in the field. And while we're on the subject, education should be a paramount policy because it literally affects our future. And one way to help improve our current standing on this is to pay teachers more. Failing schools are failing for several reasons - which I have addressed previously in this post, but if you want the next generation to be on the right track, encourage and hire the best people to teach them.

Finally, immigration policy is such a clusterfk. There was a policy not long ago that had bi-partisan support but was killed because it would give Biden a boost. Well, how can we fix policy when a step in the right direction is dictated simply by politics? People's lives are literally in the balance and nothing got done just because it can help boost poll numbers. Now that's pathetic.

But put yourselves in someone's shoes for a second. You are brought here at a very young age. You have paid your taxes as you got older. You may have even served in the military, but you are not afforded the same privileges as someone who was naturally born here. You are now approaching your 40s and unfortunately, you still can't get citizenship. That's the situation many among us face today. Why are they not treated as any other American at this point? That's the life of a DREAMer. And that's just one example of why thinking that these people should just do it the right way and come here legally are not seeing the situation for what it is. It's way more complicated than that.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

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