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[stan francisco]

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OK so Lopez? Who fits? Castleton?

Can lopez even be a bruiser at this stage of his career?

Lopez, yes please. LaVine = glassman.

[Redick07]

-TRADE ONE-
Russell, Hachimura, and Vanderbilt to CHI for LaVine, Torrey Craig, and Chicago's 2025 first round pick (via POR).

-TRADE TWO-
Vincent, Hayes, and return Portland's 2025 first round pick to POR for Robert Williams III and two second round picks.

-TRADES 3 and 4-
(a) Reddish and a second round pick into space (b) Wood and a second round pick into space.

-FA SIGNINGS-
(a)Sign Gary Trent Jr. to the taxpayer's MLE (b) sign Dinwiddie to a minimum deal (c) sign Biyombo and Howard to minimum deals:

PG - James - Dinwiddie - Schifino
SG - LaVine - Christie - Baby James
C --- Davis - Williams - Biyombo/Howard
PF - Trent - Craig - Hinson (2way)
SF - Reaves - Knecht - Lewis

Make it rain!

couple tweaks:

Russell, Hachimura, cam, Hayes, and wood to CHI for LaVine, t. craig and Chicago's 2025 first round pick (via POR).

(essentially a three way)
Vincent, t.craig, and Portland's 2025 first round pick to Wendell carter and a second round pick

-FA SIGNINGS-
-Sign Gary Trent Jr. to the taxpayer's MLE
-Dinwiddie, emoni Bates, McGee, Thad young/Covington to minimum deals

That’s garbage package to Magic….why they should do that?

They already have Franz/Isaac at SF, KCP/Jett/Harris at SG, Suggs/Black/Cole at PG. Adding one more SG who shows the same function to KCP with injury risk? What a joke!

Moreover, Magic have two 2025 FRPs, and, they already have too many young players. Why they should trade for another 2025 FRP????

This trade proposal is a ****.

[SlimShady83]

It cracks me up that Laker fans on YouTube all mad not being able to sign even Gary Trent Jr. I mean, great player what not, Is It really worth getting mad at? I mean it's Gary Trent Jr for Pete's sake

[stan francisco]

GTJ to the Bucks.

[stan francisco]

Mike Malone wants a backup PG. D Lo?

[Danny Darko]

Kessler still held out of summer league... they do seem poised to move him somewhere.

[SlimShady83]

Kessler still held out of summer league... they do seem poised to move him somewhere.

What happened to the Wendell Carter Jr talks??

[kanofwindHK]

Dinwiddie is still crying......

[loveshaq007]

Kessler still held out of summer league... they do seem poised to move him somewhere.

What happened to the Wendell Carter Jr talks??

can we get him for Vando straight up?

[SlimShady83]

Kessler still held out of summer league... they do seem poised to move him somewhere.

What happened to the Wendell Carter Jr talks??

can we get him for Vando straight up?

Vando + Pic maybe ??

Edit: Edit: Edit: ... I did the trade on spotrac ... Vando for Wendell doesn't work, but If you Include Maxwell Lewis It works ... Maybe throw In a pic to sweeten the deal?

Would Orlando do It though?

[stan francisco]

What happened to the Wendell Carter Jr talks??

can we get him for Vando straight up?

Vando + Pic maybe ??

Edit: Edit: Edit: ... I did the trade on spotrac ... Vando for Wendell doesn't work, but If you Include Maxwell Lewis It works ... Maybe throw In a pic to sweeten the deal?

Would Orlando do It though?

Ty suggested going after Wendell Carter and Black in one swoop. I haven’t studied Carter, but I remember Kessler’s defensive intensity being impressive.

Hoping we trade D Lo at least by the deadline. Worried it’s too easy for Reddick to keep him around as a crutch for easy flowing offense.

[Anderson Hunt]

Opinions vary.

POR doesn’t need or want those players and the POR FRP is probably going to be a SRP.

No point at all in making this trade. Take out the 2 SRP from POR and I still wouldn’t make this trade.

I think your mind state is extremely shortsighted.

Portland, 1-13, is one of the deepest teams in league. Thybulle and Murray might be the most expendable guys on the roster, and both of them are damn good.

They absolutely have a chance in the next four years to be a playoff team and lose their pick.

And POR does need Vincent and Hayes. Vincent would be the third PG (right now it's Avdija). Hayes would be a third string center (moving Reath to PF).

The only problem with this trade idea is that POR would have to trade a guy from their immensely deep roster (probably Thybulle into some team's TPE).

POR has -zero- stars on the roster at this time and this is a stars league. There isn’t even one competent pg on the roster.

POR has no need to make this move and should conserve assets for moves that actually improve the teams prospects. This does neither.

This is solid for LAL and not worth consideration for POR.

It's amazing that you're downplaying receiving a first round pick for an oft-injured Robert Williams, Portland's own pick.

Why? Because, according to you, it'll "probably" not convey as the Blazers would have to make the playoffs by 2029 for it to convey.

I say you have no idea. Portland has extremely talented players with huge upside on their roster, with three guys in Simons, Grant, and Ayton they will be dumping for assets.

Anything can happen with young talent that is developed and nurtured.

Which other team is surrendering a first round pick for Williams?

Also, how can you say the Blazers have zero need for Vincent, then state the Blazers' lack of a "competent PG" as the reason for them "probably" being bad for the next four years?

[JRoy]

I think your mind state is extremely shortsighted.

Portland, 1-13, is one of the deepest teams in league. Thybulle and Murray might be the most expendable guys on the roster, and both of them are damn good.

They absolutely have a chance in the next four years to be a playoff team and lose their pick.

And POR does need Vincent and Hayes. Vincent would be the third PG (right now it's Avdija). Hayes would be a third string center (moving Reath to PF).

The only problem with this trade idea is that POR would have to trade a guy from their immensely deep roster (probably Thybulle into some team's TPE).

POR has -zero- stars on the roster at this time and this is a stars league. There isn’t even one competent pg on the roster.

POR has no need to make this move and should conserve assets for moves that actually improve the teams prospects. This does neither.

This is solid for LAL and not worth consideration for POR.

It's amazing that you're downplaying receiving a first round pick for an oft-injured Robert Williams, Portland's own pick.

Why? Because, according to you, it'll "probably" not convey as the Blazers would have to make the playoffs by 2029 for it to convey.

I say you have no idea. Portland has extremely talented players with huge upside on their roster, with three guys in Simons, Grant, and Ayton they will be dumping for assets.

Anything can happen with young talent that is developed and nurtured.

Which other team is surrendering a first round pick for Williams?

Also, how can you say the Blazers have zero need for Vincent, then state the Blazers' lack of a "competent PG" as the reason for them "probably" being bad for the next four years?

The POR pick held by CHI is lotto protected before becoming SRP.

Vincent is injured and not worth his contract, LAL would have to pay to move him

Your deal is great for LAL, does next to nothing for POR. No point is making that deal on our end. Better to hold out for a better deal.

[Anderson Hunt]

I prefer realistic trades where the other team has a discernible desire to offload a player.

I don't think the Magic want to trade Carter yet. They have four solid bigs, and I think their plan is to see how their pieces fit and who gets injured. Barring injury, one of Isaac, Gogo, or Carter will be traded by the deadline.

Likewise, I don't think the Jazz are supremely motivated to trade Kessler and/or Markennan.

My trade proposals revolve around LaVine and Robert Williams III because they are clearly on the block. Their teams either don't want them or don't need them, which drives the price way down.

For the price of:

Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Hayes, Reddish, and Wood ...

... I believe the Lakers can acquire:

LaVine, Robert Williams III, and Torrey Craig ...

...while also clearing enough salary to snag a 3&D wing like Gordon Hayward for the TPMLE.

[Anderson Hunt]

POR has -zero- stars on the roster at this time and this is a stars league. There isn’t even one competent pg on the roster.

POR has no need to make this move and should conserve assets for moves that actually improve the teams prospects. This does neither.

This is solid for LAL and not worth consideration for POR.

It's amazing that you're downplaying receiving a first round pick for an oft-injured Robert Williams, Portland's own pick.

Why? Because, according to you, it'll "probably" not convey as the Blazers would have to make the playoffs by 2029 for it to convey.

I say you have no idea. Portland has extremely talented players with huge upside on their roster, with three guys in Simons, Grant, and Ayton they will be dumping for assets.

Anything can happen with young talent that is developed and nurtured.

Which other team is surrendering a first round pick for Williams?

Also, how can you say the Blazers have zero need for Vincent, then state the Blazers' lack of a "competent PG" as the reason for them "probably" being bad for the next four years?

The POR pick held by CHI is lotto protected before becoming SRP.

Vincent is injured and not worth his contract, LAL would have to pay to move him

Your deal is great for LAL, does next to nothing for POR. No point is making that deal on our end. Better to hold out for a better deal.

I'm fully aware of the protections. You seem to be okay purposely stymying the growth/progress of your youngsters.

If you were calling the shots and POR were staring at a ninth seed play-in in two years, you'd actively throw the games to get in the lottery.

I don't think that's good for culture. I'd prefer to push my young guys to shock the world.

You want that very talented and young Blazers team to play to get better but to ultimately lose.

If I were in charge, I'd want my pick back because now I have control. If my team stinks, the FRP, to your point, never conveys, but if they become a viable threat to make the playoffs (which I definitely think is possible in the next four years), I still get my pick.

With them getting their pick back they don't to stymy the growth of their young lions if they start clicking.

Without the pick back, at a certain point, you want the youngsters to fail, and that, to me, is counterintuitive to nurturing young talent and establishing a proper culture.

[JRoy]

It's amazing that you're downplaying receiving a first round pick for an oft-injured Robert Williams, Portland's own pick.

Why? Because, according to you, it'll "probably" not convey as the Blazers would have to make the playoffs by 2029 for it to convey.

I say you have no idea. Portland has extremely talented players with huge upside on their roster, with three guys in Simons, Grant, and Ayton they will be dumping for assets.

Anything can happen with young talent that is developed and nurtured.

Which other team is surrendering a first round pick for Williams?

Also, how can you say the Blazers have zero need for Vincent, then state the Blazers' lack of a "competent PG" as the reason for them "probably" being bad for the next four years?

The POR pick held by CHI is lotto protected before becoming SRP.

Vincent is injured and not worth his contract, LAL would have to pay to move him

Your deal is great for LAL, does next to nothing for POR. No point is making that deal on our end. Better to hold out for a better deal.

I'm fully aware of the protections. You seem to be okay purposely stymying the growth/progress of your youngsters.

If you were calling the shots and POR were staring at a ninth seed play-in in two years, you'd actively throw the games to get in the lottery.

I don't think that's good for culture. I'd prefer to push my young guys to shock the world.

You want that very talented and young Blazers team to play to get better but to ultimately lose.

If I were in charge, I'd want my pick back because now I have control. If my team stinks, the FRP, to your point, never conveys, but if they become a viable threat to make the playoffs (which I definitely think is possible in the next four years), I still get my pick.

With them getting their pick back they don't to stymy the growth of their young lions if they start clicking.

Without the pick back, at a certain point, you want the youngsters to fail, and that, to me, is counterintuitive to nurturing young talent and establishing a proper culture.

This deal doesn’t work for POR no matter how badly you want that to be the case.

LAL will have to find another dance partner.

You are trying to tell me what my motivations are when are obviously unaware of those motivations are.

This deal is just a non starter.

[loveshaq007]

imo vucevic>randle

if Chicago can't trade vucevic.... an offer of gabe, Hayes, wood and cam,... works.

if that doesn't work... rui, wood, and cam for vuc

[Anderson Hunt]

imo vucevic>randle

if Chicago can't trade vucevic.... an offer of gabe, Hayes, wood and cam,... works.

if that doesn't work... rui, wood, and cam for vuc

You cannot aggregate minimum contracts in a trade.

Only one minimum contract may be included for each trade

[loveshaq007]

imo vucevic>randle

if Chicago can't trade vucevic.... an offer of gabe, Hayes, wood and cam,... works.

if that doesn't work... rui, wood, and cam for vuc

You cannot aggregate minimum contracts in a trade.

Only one minimum contract may be included for each trade

ok .... rui and wood for vucevic and second round pick

[SlimShady83]

Works wonders when doing trades, but then again when doing trades, you have to ask yourselves, will the other team do It also?
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine