Lakers Summer league

[LakersSoul]

bronny needs to get in the hyperbolic time chamber with phil handy

Heats turned Gabe into a point and believe that’s what the Lakers could do. I think he’s okay since he is bulky and quick af kind of like Payton Jr. He needs to improve his shot and team is already working with him to adjust that.

[Ball so hard]

Haven’t watched much of the summer league games… is this the worse roster from a talent standpoint we’ve had, at least in recent years? Is there a single player that looks decent?

[dockingsched]

Lewis is trash. Can’t believe he’s taking a roster spot too.

[Danny Darko]

Haven’t watched much of the summer league games… is this the worse roster from a talent standpoint we’ve had, at least in recent years? Is there a single player that looks decent?

Knecht has shot a ton but looks legit.

[Danny Darko]

as usual- **** the celtics

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In all seriousness though... improved game and athleticism is still looking good.

game 4

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[danfantastk32]

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Think he calmed down, and let the game come to him. Long ways to go for the young man...but this was prob a sigh of relief for him.

Re-thinking my Castleton comments from the other day a little. Just a little. But he should get some minutes in real games imo. Let's see if this is just summer league...or if there's something there.

Almost feel the same way about Kuhse. I think he'll get eaten and spit out...but he makes alot of smart plays. If he could be given some minutes....let him get adjusted...and see if there's anything there as well. I think he's earned at least a look with his play. Those two, along with Knecht are the 3 most solid guys I've seen.

Low expectations...don't read too much from this. But I think they've earned a least a fair shot. Ya never know.

[LakersSoul]

Lewis is trash. Can’t believe he’s taking a roster spot too.

Lewis looks bad and average defense at best.

Only 1 year under his belt, right? 21 yo going on 22., and tricky AF to consider going forward.

[stan francisco]

Castleton with another good SL showing. Great ability to lead the beak after rebounds. Good handle, good passer. Decent defender, decent rebounder. Seems to disappear in the paint where he should dominate. It’s the SL. If he’s not aggressive enough to own the paint against these kids…

Knecht is for real, competes hard. Not just a shooter but a scorer and a baller. Needs to get more disciplined and aggressive on the defensive end. Solid performances overall.

Bronny plays tenacious defense. Confidence in the offense will follow. Just needs to keep doing what he’s doing. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him so far.

Hinson looks promising to me despite being too trigger happy. Plays hard.

Traoré has a good engine, plays hard. A bit OOC.

Kuhse plays the right way but is perhaps too small and thin for the real NBA.

I thought Lewis would break out in this SL but I guess I was wrong. Tentative, poor decision making, underwhelming.

[Danny Darko]

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[danfantastk32]

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Some nice plays. Just everyone remember with rookies....you get your ups, and you get your downs. I think Knecht is gonna be a pretty good player....but please give it a couple seasons.

Still not sure what we'll end up with in Bronny. He's obviously played basketball since he could walk. He's clearly a good dribbler, good passer, has a ton of athleticism, and just that "overall offensive game"....shots with left, can shoot floaters, has some trick moves. But at what level? And 6-1" really limits him. If he plays D, and develops a good PG game.....I think he could be a semi-star (He'll be a star cause of who he is...but I'm talking talent)...maybe even more. Hard to say this early. The kid needs a few years. But your already seeing him relax...and his game is much better than just a couple weeks ago. I think you'll see some pretty quick growth with this kid....he's got alot of the tools. Just don't know when it flattens out. For the 55th pick...im happy.

[Syko_boB]

Maxwell Lewis
Ceiling: Maurice Evans
Floor: Devin Ebanks

Colin Castleton
Ceiling: Mark Madsen with more range/vision
Floor: Mark Madsen without the moves

Dalton Knecht
Ceiling: Austin Reaves/Chris Mullin
Floor: JJ Redick

Bronny James
Ceiling: Avery Bradley
Floor: Australia

Armel Traore
Ceiling: Marreesse Speights
Floor: Derrick Character

Blake Hinson
Ceiling: Buddy Hield/HOF
Floor: Von Wafer

Wish we got a look at JHS this year, hope he's more prepared this season
Moses Brown has been nice. Hope he's still around when we free up a roster spot

[TheBallsDeeper]

Bronny James
Ceiling: Avery Bradley
Floor: Australia

If you think Bronny would cut it in Australia you have never watched the NBL. NBL teams would aniliate these summer league teams, and Bronny is not up to that level.

NBL import players typically are top college players who are fringe NBA rosters but just miss out, or bounce between G-Leage and 2-way contracts.

Bronny is not even a college-level player.

I'm in sales. If My father was the national manager and I was given a job on a massive salary over more deserving employees when I was underperforming I would be so embarrassed and ashamed.

Bronny will regret this one day, Lebron has made his son a worldwide laughingstock.

[closg00]

Why did you guys let Pippen Jr go?

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[Syko_boB]

Wish we had a spot for Alondes Williams from the Heat squad
Pretty sure hes unsigned
Averaged 20/5/7 in the Gleague

[Landsberger]

Dalton Knecht
Ceiling: Austin Reaves/Chris Mullin
Floor: JJ Redick

Not sure what's further off. Comparing Knecht to a Hall of Fame player or putting Reaves on the same level as a Hall of Fame player. Well... then the floor is an 14 year NBA player.

Guess you really like him

[Danny Darko]

Dalton Knecht
Ceiling: Austin Reaves/Chris Mullin
Floor: JJ Redick

Not sure what's further off. Comparing Knecht to a Hall of Fame player or putting Reaves on the same level as a Hall of Fame player. Well... then the floor is an 14 year NBA player.

Guess you really like him

sent me down a rabbit hole not to do with summer league so forgive the ot metrics review and commentary.

I like Austin and I really liked Mullin. Can't really compare for a ton of reasons including the hand checking rules and Mullin era ability to body up on D. Additionally, now 3 mania is here and it was certainly not during Mullin's era and he was still a sniper from all ranges outside the paint. Having looked at the stats and watched both a bunch:

Mullin played 17 years. Year 4-9 was the pinnacle of his abilities where he was scoring 30's and even 40's on good games, he also stayed a few too many years with some years that brought that down, but was featured early in his career where as Austin is not the apex star on his team.
Career:
PT 18.2 TR 4.1 AST 3.5 FG% 50. FG3% 38.4 FT% 86.5 eFG% 54.0

Austin last year:
PTS 15.9 TRB 4.3 AST 5.5 FG 48.6% FG3% 36.7 FT% 85.3 eFG% 56.8

also if you look up Austin and Chris's 3rd year stats... Austin is actually much better

I'm not saying Austin is better, but he is a better defender, and trending towards comparable numbers on offense while not being featured, which could also point to not having the best defender on him like Chris had. But... I mean it's not ridiculous statistically and Austin has made some media noise over the last two years. He's a keeper to me even if he's a talented role player.

[Landsberger]

Dalton Knecht
Ceiling: Austin Reaves/Chris Mullin
Floor: JJ Redick

Not sure what's further off. Comparing Knecht to a Hall of Fame player or putting Reaves on the same level as a Hall of Fame player. Well... then the floor is an 14 year NBA player.

Guess you really like him

sent me down a rabbit hole not to do with summer league so forgive the ot metrics review and commentary.

I like Austin and I really liked Mullin. Can't really compare for a ton of reasons including the hand checking rules and Mullin era ability to body up on D. Additionally, now 3 mania is here and it was certainly not during Mullin's era and he was still a sniper from all ranges outside the paint. Having looked at the stats and watched both a bunch:

Mullin played 17 years. Year 4-9 was the pinnacle of his abilities where he was scoring 30's and even 40's on good games, he also stayed a few too many years with some years that brought that down, but was featured early in his career where as Austin is not the apex star on his team.
Career:
PT 18.2 TR 4.1 AST 3.5 FG% 50. FG3% 38.4 FT% 86.5 eFG% 54.0

Austin last year:
PTS 15.9 TRB 4.3 AST 5.5 FG 48.6% FG3% 36.7 FT% 85.3 eFG% 56.8

also if you look up Austin and Chris's 3rd year stats... Austin is actually much better

I'm not saying Austin is better, but he is a better defender, and trending towards comparable numbers on offense while not being featured, which could also point to not having the best defender on him like Chris had. But... I mean it's not ridiculous statistically and Austin has made some media noise over the last two years. He's a keeper to me even if he's a talented role player.

I like Austin too... keep in mind he's playing opposite two players that get the focus of opposing defenses. We see a LOT of guys who look really good stumble when the competition focuses on them. To me, he's a great complementary player. Mullin was a leader and a top 5 player in the league for a 7 year stretch. Time will tell... Comparing either of them to a guy who hasn't played a minute even in the G-League is a little optimistic. But hey! Laker fans have a very long history of finding a player they massively overrate... even if the player is decent to good.

[danfantastk32]

I'm not saying Austin is better, but he is a better defender, and trending towards comparable numbers on offense while not being featured, which could also point to not having the best defender on him like Chris had. But... I mean it's not ridiculous statistically and Austin has made some media noise over the last two years. He's a keeper to me even if he's a talented role player.

I know your having some fun with the comparison, so I take it in the spirit meant. But I'd also throw in, that your averaging out Mullen's entire career, which had some real bad years at the end. You take that 6-7 year window of his "prime" and your looking at 24-26 ppg. And like Landsberger pointed out.....that's with you being the focus of defenses.

Austin is certainly a decent player. I'd prob call him our 3rd best player, as I consider DLo a complete drip. His offensive percentages dipped a little from year 2 to year 3. I'd like to see him get those back up, and be a little more aggressive, and I think you'd see him crack the 20ppg threshold. We're gonna need that. With our 2 stars aging to the point of decline, it's going to take more from the rest of the squad if we're to even make the playoffs.

I think Knecht has it to be a good scorer, but people have to give the guy a couple years to strengthen up for the NBA, and to adjust to this new level of playing. Reeves more than anyone has to stand up and be counted this season. I don't expect super-star stuff....but flirting with 20ppg on a consistent level, at a slightly improved efficiency. This is year 4 for him. Time to show you've "figured it out" in the NBA.

[danfantastk32]

Dalton Knecht
Ceiling: Austin Reaves/Chris Mullin
Floor: JJ Redick

I doubt you deliberately did this....but It's pretty unfair to take a guy like JJ, who's been a decent / fairly good player in the NBA for over a decade, and call him someone's "floor". Dalton could very easily suck it up....find that he's not fast enough, or that he's very predictable, or a host of other things...and be shipped off as part of a bigger trade....only to disappear after 4 years. There are TONS of top-10 picks who woulda killed to have anything close to JJ's career.

I'm quite high on Dalton personally. I think we got a potential steal in that draft. I actually don't have a complete issue with the Mullin ceiling....cause it's just that: the ceiling. Hell...he could be a better player. Doubtful...but why not? I think your dreaming putting Austin Reeves after only 3 years along side Mullen....like their careers are already equal. Not sure what your doing there. That's just disrespectful of what a guy like Mullen accomplished. Much like calling JJ someone's floor is as well. Dalton's floor is about what Bronny's is: Australia, or something.