Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

[spree2kawhi]

I commend you guys for thinking randle is going to get traded every summer for the past 5 years

I haven't felt that way until this year actually

While I do feel it less this year, he’s always had tunnel vision and you simply don’t win it all that way. The assist numbers are very misleading. He’s alright, but come playoff time teams will game plan to deny Brunson the ball and make Randle dribble and fumble or simply chuck it up all game.

[Fat Kat]

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[stuporman]

Here's a couple of big 'if' triggers for a potential Randle for KAT trade, not that I'm in favor of it but just that it seems like these are the current sticking points that has stopped a trade from already happening even though it's suggested Rose would like it to happen.

First 'if': If Randle signs his extension this summer, I don't know what it would have to be to make everyone happy including Randle, the Knicks and the Wolves but it seems MIN doesn't want to trade for a guy in his last year of contract potentially losing him for nothing after trading KAT for him.

Second 'if': If MIN will do the trade without getting the pick haul they probably want to trade KAT. There would have to be enough talent and cap relief to make it worth doing the deal while staying title contenders but the Knicks sure don't have that draft capital they'd want anymore.

If those two big 'if's happen, then I think a trade will happen, if either of those aren't happening, the deal isn't happening.

I still don't know 'if' I'd like it.

[3toheadmelo]

I commend you guys for thinking randle is going to get traded every summer for the past 5 years

After your mocking the idea of a Mikal trade and it's supporters for days, right up until hours before it actually happened, I am rooting harder for a Randle trade than anything else the Knicks could do this summer - outside of the basketball implications - simply because at this point it would make the board wildly entertaining for a good long time.

that Mikal trade had like a 1% of happening

Ima let yall go on though. Randle reupped with CAA and we just got reports that Dolan loves Randle.

[KnixinSix]

could def see houston being a suitor for randle, they seem desperate for any all star level talent so they can compete sooner, and he’s from texas so i don’t think he’d mind going there either

There could be a 3-way deal to be had… maybe Eason and another youngster coming our way…

The ONLY other guy I can think of that could be available that would be worth it to give up Randle is Sengun. Apparently he pissed the coach off a ton with his freelancing and they won without him at end of season. Do Knicks think he is a better option than Randle if he doesn't want to play ball in negotiations? It's a good question. Small chance but they might like the Randle fit better than Sengun. You need to salary match Randle though and Sengun is still cheap.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle destroyed tf out of KAT and G0bert lets not forget that

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[KnixinSix]

Here's a couple of big 'if' triggers for a potential Randle for KAT trade, not that I'm in favor of it but just that it seems like these are the current sticking points that has stopped a trade from already happening even though it's suggested Rose would like it to happen.

First 'if': If Randle signs his extension this summer, I don't know what it would have to be to make everyone happy including Randle, the Knicks and the Wolves but it seems MIN doesn't want to trade for a guy in his last year of contract potentially losing him for nothing after trading KAT for him.

Second 'if': If MIN will do the trade without getting the pick haul they probably want to trade KAT. There would have to be enough talent and cap relief to make it worth doing the deal while staying title contenders but the Knicks sure don't have that draft capital they'd want anymore.

If those two big 'if's happen, then I think a trade will happen, if either of those aren't happening, the deal isn't happening.

I still don't know 'if' I'd like it.

Salary cap relief means it's better to trade him without the extension. KATs huge salary is an albatross for a small market team paying Goebert and Edwards 40+M each and Daniels 25M. Especially with a KAT replacement in Naz Reid waiting in the wings.

[KnixinSix]

Randle destroyed tf out of KAT and G0bert lets not forget that

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He likely wants the bag and Knicks dont/ can't / wont pay that kind of money

[DaGawd]

Randle destroyed tf out of KAT and G0bert lets not forget that

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dm this to leon

[sol537]

Randle’s gonna extend on 8/3 on a fair deal and ya’ll will forget your KAT infatuation

[3toheadmelo]

Randle destroyed tf out of KAT and G0bert lets not forget that

Watch on YouTube

He likely wants the bag and Knicks dont/ can't / wont pay that kind of money

Woj/Shams/Stein hasn't reported anything such of that nature. A lot of your posts is just pure speculation. Randle isn't even eligible for an extension until next month.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle’s gonna extend on 8/3 on a fair deal and ya’ll will forget your KAT infatuation

You say this but you're gonna be cooking up another Randle trade for KAT in the next 5 mins

[sol537]

Randle’s gonna extend on 8/3 on a fair deal and ya’ll will forget your KAT infatuation

You say this but you're gonna be cooking up another Randle trade for KAT in the next 5 mins

See my previous 4-way trade that nets us Lauri and Richards

[KnixinSix]

Randle’s gonna extend on 8/3 on a fair deal and ya’ll will forget your KAT infatuation

Maybe...this Could be a game of poker to see who blinks first.

[stuporman]

I love what Brunson did but when will the false notion that he 'gave up' money he could have gotten in this extension. No he didn't, he signed for the highest amount he could FOR THIS extension instead of waiting a year for a potential offer NEXT summer's extension.

Yes, by doing so it helps the Knicks cap to retain their existing core, minus iHart obviously, and continue to build it out with role players. It 'saves' them year to year cap space but that space will be used on those other players not just left empty.

Also, a sidebar to that false notion is that money is going into Dolan's pocket, that it's saving him, a billionaire who doesn't need it, money. It isn't. That money is going to be spent anyway, there's no additional money going into Dolan's pocket if you don't count the playoff revenue, by this deal.

Of course, I'm sure the false notion won't die because people are idiots...ill-informed idiots.

[3toheadmelo]

Ok im not gonna entertain this anymore

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Randle’s gonna extend on 8/3 on a fair deal and ya’ll will forget your KAT infatuation

You say this but you're gonna be cooking up another Randle trade for KAT in the next 5 mins

See my previous 4-way trade that nets us Lauri and Richards

Also, pretty unrealistic because Ainge doesn't want conditional #1 picks.

[stuporman]

Here's a couple of big 'if' triggers for a potential Randle for KAT trade, not that I'm in favor of it but just that it seems like these are the current sticking points that has stopped a trade from already happening even though it's suggested Rose would like it to happen.

First 'if': If Randle signs his extension this summer, I don't know what it would have to be to make everyone happy including Randle, the Knicks and the Wolves but it seems MIN doesn't want to trade for a guy in his last year of contract potentially losing him for nothing after trading KAT for him.

Second 'if': If MIN will do the trade without getting the pick haul they probably want to trade KAT. There would have to be enough talent and cap relief to make it worth doing the deal while staying title contenders but the Knicks sure don't have that draft capital they'd want anymore.

If those two big 'if's happen, then I think a trade will happen, if either of those aren't happening, the deal isn't happening.

I still don't know 'if' I'd like it.

Salary cap relief means it's better to trade him without the extension. KATs huge salary is an albatross for a small market team paying Goebert and Edwards 40+M each and Daniels 25M. Especially with a KAT replacement in Naz Reid waiting in the wings.

That may be true but it depends on what they'd be paying Randle in that extension+trade kicker scenario. If they are expecting Randle to walk for that 'savings' they are going to want even more draft captital to do the deal...so one of the two 'big ifs' is not fulfilled and the deal won't happen.

Unless MIN would be happy with the two protected owed picks and a swap to satisfy their draft capital desires to let Randle walk for the savings. That's a possibility I guess...a slim one but maybe, sure, it's still one.

[KnixinSix]

Here's a couple of big 'if' triggers for a potential Randle for KAT trade, not that I'm in favor of it but just that it seems like these are the current sticking points that has stopped a trade from already happening even though it's suggested Rose would like it to happen.

First 'if': If Randle signs his extension this summer, I don't know what it would have to be to make everyone happy including Randle, the Knicks and the Wolves but it seems MIN doesn't want to trade for a guy in his last year of contract potentially losing him for nothing after trading KAT for him.

Second 'if': If MIN will do the trade without getting the pick haul they probably want to trade KAT. There would have to be enough talent and cap relief to make it worth doing the deal while staying title contenders but the Knicks sure don't have that draft capital they'd want anymore.

If those two big 'if's happen, then I think a trade will happen, if either of those aren't happening, the deal isn't happening.

I still don't know 'if' I'd like it.

Salary cap relief means it's better to trade him without the extension. KATs huge salary is an albatross for a small market team paying Goebert and Edwards 40+M each and Daniels 25M. Especially with a KAT replacement in Naz Reid waiting in the wings.

That may be true but it depends on what they'd be paying Randle in that extension+trade kicker scenario. If they are expecting Randle to walk for that 'savings' they are going to want even more draft captital to do the deal...so one of the two 'big ifs' is not fulfilled and the deal won't happen.

If they want KATs salary off the team and know they will get an equal value player for 1 year AND Mitch Robinson for 2 years allowing them to compete high level again next year , it could definitely be enough

[aggo]

I have no problem with 4/190 Randle