Alex Sarr

[zimpy27]

I think it's brilliant how the Wizards are handling this. They know he's a project and that he's got delusions of grandeur right now. So they're like, fine, play how you envision yourself to be. He's playing exactly like he wants and he's learning that he's got a long ways to go. This will allow them to limit him come the regular season and have him stick to a few plays within the offense. He won't be happy but it's the best thing for him. They don't need him to be trying step-back threes and 15 foot turnaround fade aways. As long as he's relegated to open threes, pick n pops, diving as a roll man and transition baskets he'll be fine. His defense will get him minutes and he can continue working on his shot and expanding his offense. imho he's 3 years away from being able to succeed playing how he is trying to play in this SL. But that's okay as that was the case regardless of SL. But if he plays within himself he can be a major contributor Day 1 and make all-rookie team. It's really up to him.

If he has that delusion now, it's not going to be solved by missing some shots in summer league.

[atlantabbq99]

I'm not a fan of Sarr but his rebounding and defense will give him a 10 year NBA career like Kwame Brown.

But his offense right now is looking like Michael Kidd Gilchrist

[Big J]

I'm not a fan of Sarr but his rebounding and defense will give him a 10 year career.

His offense right now is looking like Michael Kidd Gilchrist

The kid can rebound, defend, pass, and handle the ball at 7'. He's a 71% ft shooter, so I'd imagine he just needs some reps and then watch the hell out.

[Colbinii]

I'm not a fan of Sarr but his rebounding and defense will give him a 10 year NBA career like Kwame Brown.

But his offense right now is looking like Michael Kidd Gilchrist

Once again, poor man's Mobley.

He reminds me of a C version of LaMelo Ball

[atlantabbq99]

I'm not a fan of Sarr but his rebounding and defense will give him a 10 year career.

His offense right now is looking like Michael Kidd Gilchrist

The kid can rebound, defend, pass, and handle the ball at 7'. He's a 71% ft shooter, so I'd imagine he just needs some reps and then watch the hell out.

If he doesn't fix his shooting, he will become another BRK Ben Simmons or bad version of Gobert and a guy you have to pull out in the 4th quarter.

[76ciology]

I had him ranked 7th in my mock draft. He reminds me of those overhyped bigs who are valued more for their potential than their actual production, like Bagley and Whiteside. I had Edey first and Clingan second.

[peZt]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

[FarBeyondDriven]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

good thing he just turned 19 y/o then

[The-Power]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

Difficult to say as those that do pan out might be retroactively labelled different types of prospects (i.e., “the player was never that raw; he always had a fairly high baseline”, etc.).

What I would want to point out with Sarr is that I do think he's skilled, at least in the context of young bigs. It's the physicality, motor and the opinion he has of himself that are my primary concerns.

[facothomas22]

Once again he struggled on offense. The defensive upside is there don't get me wrong. However he's hasn't any ability to use his size to attach the paint area and is just very raw overall on the offensive side of the bad. It's quite alarming for the 2nd pick in the draft. When compared to other bigs in his draft class, Donovan Clingan has looked better on defense. Zach Edey from the little we have seen from him appears to be able easily score and appears to be more mobile than expected. Kel'El Ware has looked great on both offense and defense during the Summer League despite of him being the 15th pick in the draft. Even Yves Missi who's raw has looked better than him. Of course it's too early to label basically any prospect as a bust, so I'm not there with him. However I'm not liking what I'm seeing him.

[Big J]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

How about Giannis? He is the reason that teams should be taking chances on these kind of guys.

[Big J]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

Difficult to say as those that do pan out might be retroactively labelled different types of prospects (i.e., “the player was never that raw; he always had a fairly high baseline”, etc.).

What I would want to point out with Sarr is that I do think he's skilled, at least in the context of young bigs. It's the physicality, motor and the opinion he has of himself that are my primary concerns.

I think you are over thinking the "opinion of himself" thing. That's just the way that French dudes are. You could say the exact same thing about Gobert, Diaw, Parker, ect.

[atlantabbq99]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

Giannis, Wemby, Andrew Bynum, Tyson Chandler. That is off the top of my head. If i spent 30 minutes on this I think I can come up with 10 more.

[atlantabbq99]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

Giannis, Wemby, Andrew Bynum, Tyson Chandler. That is off the top of my head. If i spent 30 minutes on this I think I can come up with 10 more.

Nic Claxton

[Big J]

When is the last time a "raw, but high potential, low floor, high ceiling, drafted because of his size and athleticism and potential" type bigs turned out? I feel like they bust out all the time, at least according to the expectations.

You can not teach a 20 year old guy skills, that he didnt learn in the 10 years prior.

Giannis, Wemby, Andrew Bynum, Tyson Chandler. That is off the top of my head. If i spent 30 minutes on this I think I can come up with 10 more.

Nic Claxton

Kuminga. This was the perfect draft to take one of these dudes. If they don't pan out who cares it's not like there was someone else that was going to contribute much out there.

[atlantabbq99]

Giannis, Wemby, Andrew Bynum, Tyson Chandler. That is off the top of my head. If i spent 30 minutes on this I think I can come up with 10 more.

Nic Claxton

Kuminga. This was the perfect draft to take one of these dudes. If they don't pan out who cares it's not like there was someone else that was going to contribute much out there.

DeAndre Jordan, Miles Turner, KG, Gobert i guess would also fit this.....

I would say bad stats/high potential bigs have about a 50% success rate?

[Big J]

Nic Claxton

Kuminga. This was the perfect draft to take one of these dudes. If they don't pan out who cares it's not like there was someone else that was going to contribute much out there.

DeAndre Jordan, Miles Turner, KG, Gobert i guess would also fit this.....

I would say bad stats/high potential bigs have about a 50% success rate?

Hell, even Anthony Edwards could be categorized as a high ceiling athlete. Wasn't a big, but he was definitely raw coming out.

[JMAC3]

Sarr will likely be fine, but I think he was pretty overrated by many who thought he should go #1 without too many questions.

He only played 18mpg in a very mediocre NBL league off the bench. I had that more of a redflag then many, but still had him top 5 on my board.

I think the skill is there, but do we have a bit of a Kai Jones situation on our hands? Not the crazy dude part, but the part that thinks he is better than he is and the view of the type of player he should be. Kai Jones would have been much better if he played more like a Jericho Sims type instead of trying to shoot contested midrange fadeaways, trying to coast to coast in transition... etc.

Just play your role, knock down some threes and be versatile and wowing on the Defensive end and you are a great player.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I had him ranked 7th in my mock draft. He reminds me of those overhyped bigs who are valued more for their potential than their actual production, like Bagley and Whiteside. I had Edey first and Clingan second.

Bagley's production was elite. He had one of the best freshman seasons in NCAA history. 21 and 11 on 64% TS.

[Big J]

Sarr will likely be fine, but I think he was pretty overrated by many who thought he should go #1 without too many questions.

He only played 18mpg in a very mediocre NBL league off the bench. I had that more of a redflag then many, but still had him top 5 on my board.

I think the skill is there, but do we have a bit of a Kai Jones situation on our hands? Not the crazy dude part, but the part that thinks he is better than he is and the view of the type of player he should be. Kai Jones would have been much better if he played more like a Jericho Sims type instead of trying to shoot contested midrange fadeaways, trying to coast to coast in transition... etc.

Just play your role, knock down some threes and be versatile and wowing on the Defensive end and you are a great player.

Exactly. Sarr is going to look way worse than a guy like Edey in summer league because his game built for higher levels. Shoot 3's, be switchy & guard out to the perimeter, handle the ball a little & make some nice passes. Edey's game is built to dominate low level competition because he continually goes for the low hanging fruit.