2024-25 Regular Season

[jasonxxx102]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

[JujitsuFlip]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Yeah, both wing spots are jam packed with people, he's a rookie though, Cavs have 4 or 5 years to evaluate him.

[jbk1234]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

[JujitsuFlip]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

I think the Pistons and Nets may be the only teams left that can offer him anything above the QO currently.

[jbk1234]

Game is on ESPN so I'm not watching, but it looks like Tyson is on his way to a triple double in the third quarter.

[JujitsuFlip]

Game is on ESPN so I'm not watching, but it looks like Tyson is on his way to a triple double in the third quarter.

It was on at the bar, i caught a little bit of it but was conversing most the time. Cavs let that one get away from em.

[JonFromVA]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

If there's a pathway, it's for Kenny to figure out, but Tyson had a nice game .vs. the Lakers. We'll have to see if he's just better when he's allowed to handle the ball .vs. playing off Mitchell and Garland. His rebounding does look promising (and as advertised), but I suspect Isaac would grab more if he wasn't the only guy who consistently ran the floor and someone on the team taught boxing out.

[jbk1234]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

If there's a pathway, it's for Kenny to figure out, but Tyson had a nice game .vs. the Lakers. We'll have to see if he's just better when he's allowed to handle the ball .vs. playing off Mitchell and Garland. His rebounding does look promising (and as advertised), but I suspect Isaac would grab more if he wasn't the only guy who consistently ran the floor and someone on the team taught boxing out.

We're approaching Stalin can never fail, only be failed status with Okoro here. Assuming that no one on the coaching staff has worked with Okoro on dribbling or rebounding - over 4 years - it's dribbling and rebounding! No one has worked with Tyson on that yet either. Okoro had 4 offseasons to shore up those skills himself.

Okoro doesn't leak out, often before we've secured the defensive rebound, because he's trying to help the team. He does that because without 4-6 garbage points per game he'd average 5 ppg.

[afarmenian]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

Tysons handle is already on another level. Easily good enough to to handle point Okoro has limited ability i dont see that as even close. Is it even relevant clear to me Tyson is going to replace Levert s role on the team next year. He will play when Levert misses his 10 to 20

[jbk1234]

Game is on ESPN so I'm not watching, but it looks like Tyson is on his way to a triple double in the third quarter.

It was on at the bar, i caught a little bit of it but was conversing most the time. Cavs let that one get away from em.

On the *highlights* I'm watching, Emoni Bates is making Bronny James look like SGA. I don't know what the rules are as far as trades and two-contracts, but he's definitely a guy I'd consider swapping for a center prospect. The Magic have a center who is 4th on their depth chart in SL and he looks pretty solid.

[ijspeelman]

Didn't expect Tyson's passing to look so good. Obvi its only one game, but he was making some high level passes all game

[JonFromVA]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

Tysons handle is already on another level. Easily good enough to to handle point Okoro has limited ability i dont see that as even close. Is it even relevant clear to me Tyson is going to replace Levert s role on the team next year. He will play when Levert misses his 10 to 20

Tyson was struggling to bring the ball up the floor .vs. Orlando in the first game. Unfortunately, the negatives are generally more meaningful than the positives in Summer league, but something to watch as the level of competition improves.

[JonFromVA]

Game is on ESPN so I'm not watching, but it looks like Tyson is on his way to a triple double in the third quarter.

It was on at the bar, i caught a little bit of it but was conversing most the time. Cavs let that one get away from em.

On the *highlights* I'm watching, Emoni Bates is making Bronny James look like SGA. I don't know what the rules are as far as trades and two-contracts, but he's definitely a guy I'd consider swapping for a center prospect. The Magic have a center who is 4th on their depth chart in SL and he looks pretty solid.

Bates did dish some assists, but he's got to make shots not just take them. Did we give Bates a 2-way? Best I can tell he's still a RFA.

[JonFromVA]

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

If there's a pathway, it's for Kenny to figure out, but Tyson had a nice game .vs. the Lakers. We'll have to see if he's just better when he's allowed to handle the ball .vs. playing off Mitchell and Garland. His rebounding does look promising (and as advertised), but I suspect Isaac would grab more if he wasn't the only guy who consistently ran the floor and someone on the team taught boxing out.

We're approaching Stalin can never fail, only be failed status with Okoro here. Assuming that no one on the coaching staff has worked with Okoro on dribbling or rebounding - over 4 years - it's dribbling and rebounding! No one has worked with Tyson on that yet either. Okoro had 4 offseasons to shore up those skills himself.

Okoro doesn't leak out, often before we've secured the defensive rebound, because he's trying to help the team. He does that because without 4-6 garbage points per game he'd average 5 ppg.

Seriously? Okoro of all people on the team does what he's told, no more, no less. When he's asked to help on the boards, he's shown he can use his quickness and athleticism to grab some.

[JujitsuFlip]

Game is on ESPN so I'm not watching, but it looks like Tyson is on his way to a triple double in the third quarter.

It was on at the bar, i caught a little bit of it but was conversing most the time. Cavs let that one get away from em.

On the *highlights* I'm watching, Emoni Bates is making Bronny James look like SGA. I don't know what the rules are as far as trades and two-contracts, but he's definitely a guy I'd consider swapping for a center prospect. The Magic have a center who is 4th on their depth chart in SL and he looks pretty solid.

Emoni plays so small for his height and the alleged weight he gained. Guy really needs to evolve his game.

[JujitsuFlip]

If there's a pathway, it's for Kenny to figure out, but Tyson had a nice game .vs. the Lakers. We'll have to see if he's just better when he's allowed to handle the ball .vs. playing off Mitchell and Garland. His rebounding does look promising (and as advertised), but I suspect Isaac would grab more if he wasn't the only guy who consistently ran the floor and someone on the team taught boxing out.

We're approaching Stalin can never fail, only be failed status with Okoro here. Assuming that no one on the coaching staff has worked with Okoro on dribbling or rebounding - over 4 years - it's dribbling and rebounding! No one has worked with Tyson on that yet either. Okoro had 4 offseasons to shore up those skills himself.

Okoro doesn't leak out, often before we've secured the defensive rebound, because he's trying to help the team. He does that because without 4-6 garbage points per game he'd average 5 ppg.

Seriously? Okoro of all people on the team does what he's told, no more, no less. When he's asked to help on the boards, he's shown he can use his quickness and athleticism to grab some.

Jb mentioned that was the very reason he liked Okoro so much. Good or bad, whatever the coaching staff told Okoro to do, he would not deviate from it.

There are tons of articles out there about it.

[jbk1234]

I don’t see any pathway for Tyson to get minutes on the Cavs.

Okoro is better in every facet of the game and without him being moved there’s no one else to bump from the rotation

Tyson looks like a better rebounder than Okoro already. I'm not sure Okoro's handle or first step are better than Tyson's, they may not be worse at this point in their careers, but Okoro has four full seasons under his belt.

Okoro's future here is anything but certain. I still think the most likely outcome is he plays on the Q.O.

Tysons handle is already on another level. Easily good enough to to handle point Okoro has limited ability i dont see that as even close. Is it even relevant clear to me Tyson is going to replace Levert s role on the team next year. He will play when Levert misses his 10 to 20

I don't think Tyson can play PG, at least not yet, but he can easily be a secondary creator off the bench. He still brings the ball up too high and against better defense than what he saw yesterday, he had a tougher time.

[toooskies]

We're approaching Stalin can never fail, only be failed status with Okoro here. Assuming that no one on the coaching staff has worked with Okoro on dribbling or rebounding - over 4 years - it's dribbling and rebounding! No one has worked with Tyson on that yet either. Okoro had 4 offseasons to shore up those skills himself.

Okoro doesn't leak out, often before we've secured the defensive rebound, because he's trying to help the team. He does that because without 4-6 garbage points per game he'd average 5 ppg.

Seriously? Okoro of all people on the team does what he's told, no more, no less. When he's asked to help on the boards, he's shown he can use his quickness and athleticism to grab some.

Jb mentioned that was the very reason he liked Okoro so much. Good or bad, whatever the coaching staff told Okoro to do, he would not deviate from it.

There are tons of articles out there about it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Okoro could play better than he has to this point and I'd be eager to see what he does with different coaching, or the dispelling of notion that his coach controls his NBA career. If I had to bet I'd expect him to continue to improve and probably take more ownership of his career as he gets older.

But I don't expect him to ever be the rebounder that Tyson is probably going to be in year 1. I don't expect Tyson to ever be as good at defense as Okoro is, or be as efficient as Okoro has been.

[JonFromVA]

Seriously? Okoro of all people on the team does what he's told, no more, no less. When he's asked to help on the boards, he's shown he can use his quickness and athleticism to grab some.

Jb mentioned that was the very reason he liked Okoro so much. Good or bad, whatever the coaching staff told Okoro to do, he would not deviate from it.

There are tons of articles out there about it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Okoro could play better than he has to this point and I'd be eager to see what he does with different coaching, or the dispelling of notion that his coach controls his NBA career. If I had to bet I'd expect him to continue to improve and probably take more ownership of his career as he gets older.

But I don't expect him to ever be the rebounder that Tyson is probably going to be in year 1. I don't expect Tyson to ever be as good at defense as Okoro is, or be as efficient as Okoro has been.

Tyson may have more natural feel for how the ball is going to bounce, but all Isaac has to do to help with rebounding is learn how to box out and with his strength and leverage, he could be awesome at it even without advanced techniques like KLove's arm lock.

[jbk1234]

Seriously? Okoro of all people on the team does what he's told, no more, no less. When he's asked to help on the boards, he's shown he can use his quickness and athleticism to grab some.

Jb mentioned that was the very reason he liked Okoro so much. Good or bad, whatever the coaching staff told Okoro to do, he would not deviate from it.

There are tons of articles out there about it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Okoro could play better than he has to this point and I'd be eager to see what he does with different coaching, or the dispelling of notion that his coach controls his NBA career. If I had to bet I'd expect him to continue to improve and probably take more ownership of his career as he gets older.

But I don't expect him to ever be the rebounder that Tyson is probably going to be in year 1. I don't expect Tyson to ever be as good at defense as Okoro is, or be as efficient as Okoro has been.

The thing about Okoro's efficiency is it's tied to his 8.5 ppg career average. I know that you believe that has to do with his touches, but he was able to bump it up against bad defenses last season and unable to bump it up against good ones. When he had to sub in as a starter in March, and again in that Celtics series, he was just hard capped at 10 ppg.