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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1901 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:46 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Alan Hahn said that Brook Lopez is in play?


Maybe he's thinking of Robin Lopez?



Robin Lopez at this point is the Ryan A to Brook's NovaSquad.

Having said that I think Robin would be useful and getting both is 12 very useful fouls to absorb Embiid.

Only way to match BroPez salary without breaking up NovaCorps is to deal Randle.

I wonder which teams are buying? Dallas? Spurs? Clippers would be an amazing fit...
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1902 » by sol537 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:51 pm

Vucevic was awful last year from 3pt land and on the defensive end. He's 33 and seems to be slowing down.

I'm not sure if we can add a Precious S&T to another player in a trade so this may not even be possible without using Mitch.

On the flip side, what if Lauri to GSW breaks down and we give Utah everything we have left...

Mitch, Deuce, Precious via S&T, rights to Rokas, Kolek, Diadet, WAS 1st, DET 1st, pick swaps for all our remaining years, and five second rounders...

...for Lauri + Kessler. Pure all in move.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1903 » by dukeknicksirish » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:52 pm

Signature NYK wrote:Deuce and Precious in S&T for Vucevic.

Vooch can replicate a lot of what iHart did offensively and more as he can put the ball on the floor and drive himself and knock down open 3s. Has the push floater and a more refined post game. Can finish around the rim with both hands. He's always been a good rebounder. He can also pass pretty well although sometimes looks for his own shot too much. Maybe Thibs can unlock him as a secondary offensive hub in the high post.

He's definitely not the rim protector iHart was and has slow feet but in this scenario we'd still have Mitch for true Rim protection lineups.

Our offense would be immaculate but banking on our Wings in Mikal and OG to really handle business defensively and or for Randle to lock in on that side of the ball..

9 Man Rotation (Minutes Allocation)

Vooch (28) /Mitch (20
Randle (33)/OG (15)
OG (17)/Hart (26)/ Mikal (5)
Mikal (28)/Donte (20)
Brunson (33) /Payne (10) / Donte (5)

That lineup features 5 true threats to score and capable outside shooting from 1 - 5
Space for Randle and Brunson to operate


Chicago gets a young cost controlled asset that can pair with and ball dominate wing or lead guard

Vuc lack of defense would give Thibbs nightmares. He’d def be coming off our bench if this were the case though. I wouldn’t mind having this kind of bench unit big man for change of pace/look.

If we are giving up the best player(value wise too) between the 3, we should be getting some 2nds back too, no? Would that be allowed?
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1904 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:00 pm

there must be some foreign bigman or g-leaguer we can audition

we need a bu center but we also need a bu PF

OG or Bridges shouldnt have to take that role
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1905 » by moocow007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:11 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:there must be some foreign bigman or g-leaguer we can audition

we need a bu center but we also need a bu PF

OG or Bridges shouldnt have to take that role


Pickings are extremely slim.

The 2023-2024 G-League Rookie of the Year was Oscar Thiebwe, a 6'9" 255lb center who averaged 16 and 16 in just 27 minutes lol. He doesn't have idea NBA center height but he's got a near 7'4" wingspan. Was on the Pacers G-League affiliate. I believe he was on a 2-way contract with the Pacers. Not sure if he still is.



One of the best defensive and top shotblocker C's in the G-League is Kylor Kelley. He's not under contract nor is his rights controlled with any NBA team.



In comparison, the last time Sims played in the G-League he averaged 17rebounds, 4 assists and 2 blocks. So...yeah...
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1906 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:12 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Alan Hahn said that Brook Lopez is in play?


Brook would be perfect, even though he’s on the older side. Theres been reports fit a while that he might be on the block in an attempt to retool around Giannis. Just not sure we have anything to offer the bucks. Guess deuce could be some interest to them since they need some perimeter defense?
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1907 » by sol537 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:12 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:there must be some foreign bigman or g-leaguer we can audition

we need a bu center but we also need a bu PF

OG or Bridges shouldnt have to take that role


I think Leon and co. will try to get Wendell Carter Jr. from ORL using Deuce and parts...

They got four centers. One of them is going to get dealt by the Feb '24 deadline.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1908 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:16 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
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And what team or teams are signing him for the max?

Houston


I don't see them going after Randle.

They would jump at the opportunity.
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Post#1909 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:17 pm

sol537 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:there must be some foreign bigman or g-leaguer we can audition

we need a bu center but we also need a bu PF

OG or Bridges shouldnt have to take that role


I think Leon and co. will try to get Wendell Carter Jr. from ORL using Deuce and parts...

They got four centers. One of them is going to get dealt by the Feb '24 deadline.

I hope you’re right…
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Post#1910 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:20 pm

sol537 wrote:Vucevic was awful last year from 3pt land and on the defensive end. He's 33 and seems to be slowing down.

I'm not sure if we can add a Precious S&T to another player in a trade so this may not even be possible without using Mitch.

On the flip side, what if Lauri to GSW breaks down and we give Utah everything we have left...

Mitch, Deuce, Precious via S&T, rights to Rokas, Kolek, Diadet, WAS 1st, DET 1st, pick swaps for all our remaining years, and five second rounders...

...for Lauri + Kessler. Pure all in move.

They don’t want to get rid of Markkanen…
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Post#1911 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:22 pm

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sol537 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Yeah, I can see not trading Randle this year to "make one run with everyone" as a logical pathway, but I feel like the other really logical - and more importantly long-view - option out there is moving Randle for younger, lesser pieces that have a chance to grow within the championship window it appears they've opened up this offseason. As you said, their whole approach has been longterm, sustained success.

If they really do not have information that Julius will sign a contract on their terms, the option of running it back with everyone at the risk of losing a valuable, but questionable, asset that could be mitigated by a preseason trade feels much more Cashman's Yankees than it does Leon's Knicks. This FO has been meticulous with their approach and roster building, so I can't see them opening themselves up to an enormous amount of asset risk for the sake of one season. But what do I know - I'm greatly enjoying sitting back and letting Leon/Wes/Brock cook.

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Houston could be that partner...

Jabari Smith, Eason, Adams for Randle, rights to Rokas, and the WAS 1st...


The rough parameters of this trade seem interesting to me but Randle is a 25/10/5 guy and 3 time All Star. I think his value should be a bit higher in a trade. Houston has more future cap flexibility and can pay him the bag too.

Jabari Smith, Eason, Adams for Randle, rights to Duane Washington, and a 2nd RP.

Do folks here like Jabari Smiths upside?

We’re a win-now team. This is a terrible trade in that regard. We don’t want to get rid of Julius Randle, we want to upgrade the position. Their only interesting player is Sengun.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1912 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:24 pm

sol537 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:there must be some foreign bigman or g-leaguer we can audition

we need a bu center but we also need a bu PF

OG or Bridges shouldnt have to take that role


I think Leon and co. will try to get Wendell Carter Jr. from ORL using Deuce and parts...

They got four centers. One of them is going to get dealt by the Feb '24 deadline.


Feb '24 deadline?

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1913 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:24 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
louisorr wrote:who that 6'6 Dukie that was married to Candace Parker. He played center for us at one time and he's prolly under 40 yo still. maybe he's available?


Sheldon Williams. Currently 40 years old.

Poor man’s Emeka.. uhhh… Wendell Carter Jr.
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Post#1914 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:26 pm

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sol537 wrote:Vucevic was awful last year from 3pt land and on the defensive end. He's 33 and seems to be slowing down.

I'm not sure if we can add a Precious S&T to another player in a trade so this may not even be possible without using Mitch.

On the flip side, what if Lauri to GSW breaks down and we give Utah everything we have left...

Mitch, Deuce, Precious via S&T, rights to Rokas, Kolek, Diadet, WAS 1st, DET 1st, pick swaps for all our remaining years, and five second rounders...

...for Lauri + Kessler. Pure all in move.

They don’t want to get rid of Markkanen…


And the pick hoarder Ainge doesn't accept conditional #1 picks in any trade, especially for Lauri.
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Post#1915 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:29 pm

Signature NYK wrote:Deuce and Precious in S&T for Vucevic.

Vooch can replicate a lot of what iHart did offensively and more as he can put the ball on the floor and drive himself and knock down open 3s. Has the push floater and a more refined post game. Can finish around the rim with both hands. He's always been a good rebounder. He can also pass pretty well although sometimes looks for his own shot too much. Maybe Thibs can unlock him as a secondary offensive hub in the high post.

He's definitely not the rim protector iHart was and has slow feet but in this scenario we'd still have Mitch for true Rim protection lineups.

Our offense would be immaculate but banking on our Wings in Mikal and OG to really handle business defensively and or for Randle to lock in on that side of the ball..

9 Man Rotation (Minutes Allocation)

Vooch (28) /Mitch (20
Randle (33)/OG (15)
OG (17)/Hart (26)/ Mikal (5)
Mikal (28)/Donte (20)
Brunson (33) /Payne (10) / Donte (5)

That lineup features 5 true threats to score and capable outside shooting from 1 - 5
Space for Randle and Brunson to operate


Chicago gets a young cost controlled asset that can pair with and ball dominate wing or lead guard

I don’t care what the general consensus is, Vucevic is a good player. I wonder how many of you all have actually watched him…
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1916 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:34 pm

Vuc is the fournier of centers. He would fall out of the rotation with thibs.

Brook would have to be S&T precious + Mitch would have to go as well.

Brook is a better more healthier player than Mitch so I guess it could make some sense.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1917 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:41 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Can we scoop up fultz for the low. last year he was pretty good. i dont know what happened this past season though


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Post#1918 » by aggo » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:41 pm

randle for Draymond + 2 frps
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1919 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:50 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Alan Hahn said that Brook Lopez is in play?


Brook would be perfect, even though he’s on the older side. Theres been reports fit a while that he might be on the block in an attempt to retool around Giannis. Just not sure we have anything to offer the bucks. Guess deuce could be some interest to them since they need some perimeter defense?


Hard pass. If Deuce is going out I'd need more than Brook. That's my guy, but no.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#1920 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:55 pm

brook is semi-washed now which is why the bucks defense has fallen off a cliff. why would a team that is trying to compete for a championship want to deal their only center on the roster if he was still any good.

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