Zach Edey, 7-4

[lastb1ckman]

Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.

Clingan looks super good defensively, but you don't have to wear your agenda on your sleeve so much. "leaves the scoring to the guards" ie, he cant score. He's been very inefficient this whole week so far.

They both have looked good in what we have seen so far in summer league. Hopefully Edey gets to play more before it ends.

Teams don’t want their bigs scoring in this league unless they are Jokic or Embiid. It is actually a detriment to the teams offense to have to feed a post player who only takes 2s.

I mean it would be one thing if he simply didn't take any shots. But he's taking shots and not making them. He's shooting under 40% from the field as a CENTER. He's not gonna be asked to do much at the next level because he CAN'T do more, not because teams aren't looking for it. There's a difference. It makes him exploitable just like Edey.

[Big J]

Clingan looks so much better than Edey. Just a way more modern center. He leaves the scoring to the guards and plays solid D and is an excellent passer. You don’t need to feed him inefficient post touches. Even shot a couple of 3s last night. Makes Edey look like a cave man in comparison.

clingan has been an absolute mess offensively. edey in his one game was dominant on offense. he was also, elite defensively.

Edey only looks good on defense when the other team doesn’t spread him out and allows him to just sit in the paint. That won’t be the case in the big boy league.

[Big J]

Clingan looks super good defensively, but you don't have to wear your agenda on your sleeve so much. "leaves the scoring to the guards" ie, he cant score. He's been very inefficient this whole week so far.

They both have looked good in what we have seen so far in summer league. Hopefully Edey gets to play more before it ends.

Teams don’t want their bigs scoring in this league unless they are Jokic or Embiid. It is actually a detriment to the teams offense to have to feed a post player who only takes 2s.

I mean it would be one thing if he simply didn't take any shots. But he's taking shots and not making them. He's shooting under 40% from the field as a CENTER. He's not gonna be asked to do much at the next level because he CAN'T do more, not because teams aren't looking for it. There's a difference. It makes him exploitable just like Edey.

Clingan is an elite passer, and he is now shooting 3s. That is all you can ask of him. He’s not going to be taking very many shots on offense because he knows his role. Something Edey still hasn’t learned.

[lastb1ckman]

Teams don’t want their bigs scoring in this league unless they are Jokic or Embiid. It is actually a detriment to the teams offense to have to feed a post player who only takes 2s.

I mean it would be one thing if he simply didn't take any shots. But he's taking shots and not making them. He's shooting under 40% from the field as a CENTER. He's not gonna be asked to do much at the next level because he CAN'T do more, not because teams aren't looking for it. There's a difference. It makes him exploitable just like Edey.

Clingan is an elite passer, and he is now shooting 3s. That is all you can ask of him. He’s not going to be taking very many shots on offense because he knows his role. Something Edey still hasn’t learned.

Like what do you mean Edey hasn't learned? What have you possibly seen that shows Clingan can play his role but Edey can't? And I am not saying Clingan cant play a role, but the way you're talking is like if Edey's been playing like Alexandre Sarr. The one game Edey played, he played well and didn't do anything I wouldn't expect him to do in the regular season. Clingan on the other hand is definitely trying stuff on offense that he won't be doing in the nba.

[JMAC3]

Edey had 1 decent game, so not really sure to feel one way or the other... especially since it is summer league.
Seems more like the convo is centered around Clingan...

Who has basically been what most expected, huge, good rim protector with below average offense.
I think in a normal draft he should go in the 10-15 range, this draft no issues with him in 7-10 range.

Neither one of these guys will be much of an offensive threat in the NBA because they have very limited skillsets. Almost all their offense is going to be how good their guards are at penetrating and getting them easy buckets.

Clingan is a more natural defender though which is what separates him from Edey in the long run.

[Big J]

Another game goes by and Edey ducks out again. Not a good look.

[Colbinii]

Another game goes by and Edey ducks out again. Not a good look.

Nope. And even if he put up 20/15/5, it would "still just be Summer League" and Big J would still be explaining away how irrelevant it is.

[Big J]

Another game goes by and Edey ducks out again. Not a good look.

Nope. And even if he put up 20/15/5, it would "still just be Summer League" and Big J would still be explaining away how irrelevant it is.

It actually doesn't matter what his stat line is. My issue with him has never been his scoring or rebounding, or even blocked shots for that matter. I expect him to put up a bunch of empty stats if he's getting touches. We already knew that he could do that.

[jasonxxx102]

He won’t be able to stay on the floor when it matters so who cares?

[Big J]

Ducked out again.

[FrodoBaggins]

Zach with some bad luck again. But I've seen enough; he's looked everything I expected him to be. Amazing screens, strong rebounding, powerful finishing at the rim, effective post-up scoring, a legitimate paint deterrent and rim protector, and an active shot-blocker. Just a huge interior presence on both ends of the court.

Get him fresh, fit, and ready for training camp in a few months.

2024 Summer League Stats:

- 43 minutes played
- 20 points, 18 rebounds (5 offensive, 13 defensive), 1 assist, 5 blocks
- 10/15 FG (66.7% FG)

Per-36 adjusted: 16.7 ppg, 15.1 rpg, 0.8 apg, 4.2 bpg
Per-25 adjusted: 11.6 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 0.6 apg, 2.9 bpg (20-25 minutes is probably his playing time if all goes well)

[Big J]

You act like he's doing this in actual NBA games. Lots of people had "seen enough" after Skita and Josh Selby tore up the summer league.

[FrodoBaggins]

You act like he's doing this in actual NBA games. Lots of people had "seen enough" after Skita and Josh Selby tore up the summer league.

We'll see bro. I know you're trolling but nothing's a given. But I like what I see. Things will be easier for him on both ends of the court when he's playing with Ja, JJJ, Bane, and Smart. The opposition will be better but I think those two things balance each other out somewhat.

He showed himself to be more active and aggressive contesting shots. Which is what I and others predicted would happen when he's playing a lesser role and doesn't have to worry about foul trouble or conserving his energy. He showed himself to be a powerful and effective roll man. He got up and down the court fast for multiple uncontested dunks. He set wide, bruising screens. He rebounded well and even scored in the post just about every time.

Don't know what more we needed to see...

[Big J]

You act like he's doing this in actual NBA games. Lots of people had "seen enough" after Skita and Josh Selby tore up the summer league.

We'll see bro. I know you're trolling but nothing's a given. But I like what I see.

He showed himself to be more active and aggressive contesting shots. Which is what I and others predicted would happen when he's playing a lesser role and doesn't have to worry about foul trouble or conserving his energy. He showed himself to be a powerful and effective roll man. He got up and down the court fast for multiple uncontested dunks. He set wide, bruising screens. He rebounded well and even scored in the post just about every time.

Don't know what more we needed to see...

Defend the perimeter, shoot 3's & be an effective passer. Centers need to be able to do those things in the modern NBA. No one cares that he can score in the post.

[FrodoBaggins]

Great breakdown from today's game. Played 9 minutes and did a handful of great stuff:

Watch on YouTube

[MemphisX]

You act like he's doing this in actual NBA games. Lots of people had "seen enough" after Skita and Josh Selby tore up the summer league.

We'll see bro. I know you're trolling but nothing's a given. But I like what I see.

He showed himself to be more active and aggressive contesting shots. Which is what I and others predicted would happen when he's playing a lesser role and doesn't have to worry about foul trouble or conserving his energy. He showed himself to be a powerful and effective roll man. He got up and down the court fast for multiple uncontested dunks. He set wide, bruising screens. He rebounded well and even scored in the post just about every time.

Don't know what more we needed to see...

Defend the perimeter, shoot 3's & be an effective passer. Centers need to be able to do those things in the modern NBA. No one cares that he can score in the post.

No they do not.

[JMAC3]

Not a great look for a guy his size to injury both his ankles in just 43 mins on the court...

[Big J]

We'll see bro. I know you're trolling but nothing's a given. But I like what I see.

He showed himself to be more active and aggressive contesting shots. Which is what I and others predicted would happen when he's playing a lesser role and doesn't have to worry about foul trouble or conserving his energy. He showed himself to be a powerful and effective roll man. He got up and down the court fast for multiple uncontested dunks. He set wide, bruising screens. He rebounded well and even scored in the post just about every time.

Don't know what more we needed to see...

Defend the perimeter, shoot 3's & be an effective passer. Centers need to be able to do those things in the modern NBA. No one cares that he can score in the post.

No they do not.

These were the questions that people had about his game, and nothing he did during summer league answered them.

[JHFVF07]

The guy will play with Ja, Bane, Smart(it would be good if Memphis had a bigger SF) and JJJ, if he can grab rebounds, set good screens and block/alter some shots inside the paint he will play a lot of minutes.

[Big J]

Clingan with another monster game on D, and he’s actually shooting 3s. Guy is built for the modern game.