2025 NBA Draft Class

_jin · Post #261 » by **_jin** » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:24 pm

I hope Zacharie Perrin resolves his contract situation quick so he can sign to a club that will develop and showcase him for next year's draft. I really like the kid, his energy is contagious, he's not afraid to bang inside and take matters into his own hands.
Spain is out of U20 Eurobasket but Izan Almansa certainly helped his draft stock, he looked very good. Can't say the same about Aday Mara, the kid is HUGE and fairly mobile for his size but he's super raw and his IQ doesnt seem very high. His defense is bad for a guy that long.

BigGargamel · Post #262 » by **BigGargamel** » Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:00 pm

Working on my NBA 2K25 Draft Class. 150 players.

This is my first list. Who do you think I might be missing, or seriously underrating?

Tried to keep it 20 or so freshmen, 15 or so sophomores, 10 or so juniors and 10 or so foreign prospects. This is a draft class and not just a prospect ranking, so I don't lump all players in there. I try to keep it like we would see for a real early entry list.

I tried to pick freshmen expected to have an immediate impact. Of course, we don't know who's gonna be Justin Edwards and who's gonna be Reed Sheppard.

https://sportsgamingrosters.com/2024/07/19/nba-2k25-preliminary-2025-draft-class-top-150-prospects/

Chuck Everett · Post #263 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:00 am

BigGargamel wrote:Working on my NBA 2K25 Draft Class. 150 players.

This is my first list. Who do you think I might be missing, or seriously underrating?

Tried to keep it 20 or so freshmen, 15 or so sophomores, 10 or so juniors and 10 or so foreign prospects. This is a draft class and not just a prospect ranking, so I don't lump all players in there. I try to keep it like we would see for a real early entry list.

I tried to pick freshmen expected to have an immediate impact. Of course, we don't know who's gonna be Justin Edwards and who's gonna be Reed Sheppard.

https://sportsgamingrosters.com/2024/07/19/nba-2k25-preliminary-2025-draft-class-top-150-prospects/

Just looked, but definitely want to do a deeper dive as 150 players is a lot to think about. Just a few quick thoughts.

Asa Newell is a SF/PF (not a PF/C).

What's the thought process regarding Drake Powell over Edgecombe? Is Powell really better than his future teammate Ian Jackson? I am legitimately curious.

Tre Johnson is one heck of a shooter. He could rise up the draft boards at Texas (Rodney Terry has an interesting roster that's for sure).

LJ Cryer is not an NBA prospect at all. The best NBA prospects on Houston's roster at the moment are Milos Uzan (PG) and Joseph Tugler (PF). Uzan is a transfer from Oklahoma, 6'4 and Tugler is a Jason Maxiell/Montrez Harrell/Kenneth Faried type. 6'7 with like a 7'6 wingspan. He could end up having a huge year for the Coogs and he wanted to test the waters before he broke his foot. Just wanted to throw these two guys into the mix. Houston has other good players, but not yet ready for NBA talks, IMO.

Edit: Jamir Watkins (FSU) and Trey Townsend (Arizona) are too low. Those guys are worth taking fliers on in the second round for any team. Why Watkins went back to school, I'll never understand.

BigGargamel · Post #264 » by **BigGargamel** » Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:32 am

Thanks for the input. I definitely don't know a lot about these guys yet. Super preliminary rankings. I actually have team by team rankings (again, very preliminary).

https://sportsgamingrosters.com/nba-2k24-college-basketball-prospect-pages/

The list was super long, getting it down to 150 was a chore. After like player 80 or so, it all jumbled together for me, so please feel free to keep pointing specific guys out like you did. I'll gladly take any advice and make changes!

I don't want to hijack this thread though, or I don't think my stuff matters enough to make a thread of my own LOL. I guess I'll just keep an eye on this thread throughout the next month or two and add guys that you all talk about. You all know your stuff. I trust you guys much more than people over at Reddit.

JustBuzzin · Post #265 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 4:24 am

I'm falling in love with Egor Demin.

A 6'9 PG with playmaking skills. He could be the big prize of this draft. He's fluid with his movements. I'm not saying he's Luka, but I get that kind of vibe watching this kid. Will be interesting to see how he does in college at BYU.

Post #266 » by **165bows** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 4:09 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:I'm falling in love with Egor Demin.

A 6'9 PG with playmaking skills. He could be the big prize of this draft. He's fluid with his movements. I'm not saying he's Luka, but I get that kind of vibe watching this kid. Will be interesting to see how he does in college at BYU.

Wasn't familiar with this guy at all but there was a nice write up on him just recently:

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/egor-demin-scouting-report

babyjax13 · Post #267 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:00 am

I kind of like Karter Knox in the mid-first. He's a nice shooter and pretty physical, but he doesn't have much shiftiness to his offensive game. His physical profile makes him seem like he should have high potential on that end, but I think he looks more like a complimentary piece. Been watching a few games with his OTE team.

sisibilio · Post #268 » by **sisibilio** » Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:21 pm

_jin wrote:I hope Zacharie Perrin resolves his contract situation quick so he can sign to a club that will develop and showcase him for next year's draft. I really like the kid, his energy is contagious, he's not afraid to bang inside and take matters into his own hands.
Spain is out of U20 Eurobasket but Izan Almansa certainly helped his draft stock, he looked very good. Can't say the same about Aday Mara, the kid is HUGE and fairly mobile for his size but he's super raw and his IQ doesnt seem very high. His defense is bad for a guy that long.

Mara missed the entiŕe pŕeparation for the tournament for some injury, i guess nothing serious but he was clearly not 100% probably shouldn't have played at all.
His IQ is one of his strong points IMO, he wasn't utilized properly by the spanish coach, nobody in Spain did tbh other than Villar who is arguably the one with the least potential in the squad.

I don't think Perrin is NBA material at all.

Chuck Everett · Post #269 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:12 pm

So I just read a Georgia-centric article that says the Bulldogs are listing Asa Newell at 6'11. I do not remember him being that tall, but if he has grown over the summer to that height, I might need to do another re-evaluation. Perhaps, he could end up playing his way into a top 3-4 selection. I still like Flagg, Traore and Edgecombe the most though for those spots in the draft.

babyjax13 · Post #270 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:40 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:So I just read a Georgia-centric article that says the Bulldogs are listing Asa Newell at 6'11. I do not remember him being that tall, but if he has grown over the summer to that height, I might need to do another re-evaluation. Perhaps, he could end up playing his way into a top 3-4 selection. I still like Flagg, Traore and Edgecombe the most though for those spots in the draft.

I've assumed he was about 6-10, he looks pretty big to me. With some growth and filling out, he might be a center.

babyjax13 · Post #271 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:16 pm

Sell me on Ace Bailey. I see some things I like, and maybe I've only watched games where his knee was bothering him. I like the shot, I think he's athletic, but something is adding up to less than its parts at the moment. I've got him 4th behind Flagg, Traore, and Harper (who I think also has some issues - especially when you watch games and it is just a 6 minute stretch of possessions that begin and end with him), and I'm tempted to move Gonzales above him, too.

Any full games freely available would be appreciated, too.

Hal14 · Post #272 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:07 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Asa Newell is a SF/PF (not a PF/C).

I disagree. I see him as a PF/small ball 5 type. Last year in HS he sometimes played the 4 (if he was on the floor with Derek Queen) and if Queen was off the floor, he played the 5.

Newell doesn't appear to have the mobility, athleticism or perimeter skill set to play the 3.

Good player, though.

This season at Georgia, they'll probably have Newell at the 4 and Somto at the 5 a lot..

Hal14 · Post #273 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:10 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:So I just read a Georgia-centric article that says the Bulldogs are listing Asa Newell at 6'11. I do not remember him being that tall, but if he has grown over the summer to that height, I might need to do another re-evaluation. Perhaps, he could end up playing his way into a top 3-4 selection. I still like Flagg, Traore and Edgecombe the most though for those spots in the draft.

College teams are known for adding an inch or 2 for some of their players to make them look better in the eyes of scouts, help their draft stock.

Newell was listed at 6'9" everywhere last season. I think he's 6'9" with a slight chance of being 6'10".

No way he's 6'11..

Georgia also added an inch for Somto Cyril, who was listed at 6'10" everywhere before but is now listed on the Georgia site at 6'11"..

Hal14 · Post #274 » by **Hal14** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:13 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:I'm falling in love with Egor Demin.

A 6'9 PG with playmaking skills. He could be the big prize of this draft. He's fluid with his movements. I'm not saying he's Luka, but I get that kind of vibe watching this kid. Will be interesting to see how he does in college at BYU.

He's not a PG. And his playmaking skills are very limited.

He's a wing, who at this point is more of a play finisher than a creator.

I also have him down as 6'8", not 6'9"..

Pistol King · Post #275 » by **Pistol King** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:52 pm

Time to add another promising name to this loaded class: Ben Saraf.

Read on Twitter

The 18 years old 6'6" point guard has looked better in this match up than projected lottery pick Hugo Gonzalez.

Israel have eliminated Spain and qualified to the 1/4 Finals thanks to his unique performance.

Ben Saraf is averaging 27-5-5 so far in the FIBA U-18 tournament. He will play for Ulm the upcoming season.

Tomorrow he's gonna match up 2025 top guard prospect Nolan Traore, I'm very intrigued to watch them one against each other.

arusinov · Post #276 » by **arusinov** » Thu Aug 1, 2024 8:21 am

Pistol King wrote:Time to add another promising name to this loaded class: Ben Saraf.

Read on Twitter

The 18 years old 6'6" point guard has looked better in this match up than projected lottery pick Hugo Gonzalez.

Israel have eliminated Spain and qualified to the 1/4 Finals thanks to his unique performance.

Ben Saraf is averaging 27-5-5 so far in the FIBA U-18 tournament. He will play for Ulm the upcoming season.

Tomorrow he's gonna match up 2025 top guard prospect Nolan Traore, I'm very intrigued to watch them one against each other.

Whatever will happen in the game against France (France is much more athletic as a team, and Israeli players are tired after energy consuming game against Spain)... I just don't really see why Traore is top guard project, and Saraf is not...

arusinov · Post #277 » by **arusinov** » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:42 pm

Well. Israel won 85:72 and advanced to semifinals.
Saraf started game with several misses and couple of blocks on his layups. He also got in foul problem in 2nd qtr when already with 2 personals, after getting quite questionable call, got in argument with referee so episode ended with foul and technical foul (which are counted in Euro together with other fouls)

He still finished with 23 pts, 5 rbs, 5 ast (0 tov), 2 stl, 1 blk, +16

Troare on other hand had 12 pts, 7 rbs, 9 ast (but 8 tov), 0 stl, 0 blk, -12

Omer Mayer with 31 pts was the best player for Israel, and future Saraf's teammate in Ulm Noa Essengue (28 pts) was the best player for France...

But between Saraf and Troare... I would say Saraf clearly outplayed opponent

Pistol King · Post #278 » by **Pistol King** » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:45 pm

I just opened a new thread for Ben Saraf. He is worth it.

A very legit prospect and I thought as well he looked better than both Gonzales and Traore in these two matches.

babyjax13 · Post #279 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Aug 3, 2024 7:22 am

Tried to catch Rocco Zikarsky in international competition and the only full game footage I could find was him against kids six inches shorter than him playing center. Hopefully he plays more in the NBL next year. The only thing I got from it was that he looked mobile guarding perimeter players, but they were pretty young kids.

Chi town · Post #280 » by **Chi town** » Sat Aug 3, 2024 3:08 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Tried to catch Rocco Zikarsky in international competition and the only full game footage I could find was him against kids six inches shorter than him playing center. Hopefully he plays more in the NBL next year. The only thing I got from it was that he looked mobile guarding perimeter players, but they were pretty young kids.

He has some mins for the pro team.

Rocco is electric and elite at the rim on both ends. Think he will go later due to all the guard wing talent though. We have to see what Malauch does too. Could be first C off the board. Love his game. Length. IQ. Hustle. Anticipation. Incredible vertical spacing.