Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas

[Hal14]

Hal, will be depending on you to throw out some 2-way eligible players from other squads to throw around a little.

haha..idk if that's necessary.

2 of the our 2-way spots are filled (JD, Peterson).

Rumor has it, Watson is getting the 3rd spot. If he ends up getting the 15th standard roster spot instead, I figure we can let Ramsey (I think he's eligible but not positive), Harper Jr, Tillie, Enaruna and House battle for it in training camp.

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Walsh will shoot better in the reg.

I don't think anybody is predicting he'll shoot worse.

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Hal, will be depending on you to throw out some 2-way eligible players from other squads to throw around a little.

haha..idk if that's necessary.

2 of the our 2-way spots are filled (JD, Peterson).

Rumor has it, Watson is getting the 3rd spot. If he ends up getting the 15th standard roster spot instead, I figure we can let Ramsey (I think he's eligible but not positive), Harper Jr, Tillie, Enaruna and House battle for it in training camp.

Yeah. Whoever they got would basically cost the 15th slot salary. (Probably in the form of bumping Watson from a 2-way to a regular deal.) Either that, or one of Peterson/Davison would be cut for the new guy.

[ConstableGeneva]

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One more game?? UGH.

[darrendaye]

Hal, will be depending on you to throw out some 2-way eligible players from other squads to throw around a little.

haha..idk if that's necessary.

2 of the our 2-way spots are filled (JD, Peterson).

Rumor has it, Watson is getting the 3rd spot. If he ends up getting the 15th standard roster spot instead, I figure we can let Ramsey (I think he's eligible but not positive), Harper Jr, Tillie, Enaruna and House battle for it in training camp.

Yeah. Whoever they got would basically cost the 15th slot salary. (Probably in the form of bumping Watson from a 2-way to a regular deal.) Either that, or one of Peterson/Davison would be cut for the new guy.

I was 50/50 being funny, but, with so few roster machinations to talk about now, best outside alternative to Davison might be an interesting exercise to pass some of the dead time.

[Homerclease]

If I had to guess, Watson is getting the 15th spot and Ramsey on a two way. Otherwise, why sit Ramsey for the final summer league game when the guy is fighting to stick in the league?

[cloverleaf]

Hal, will be depending on you to throw out some 2-way eligible players from other squads to throw around a little.

haha..idk if that's necessary.

2 of the our 2-way spots are filled (JD, Peterson).

Rumor has it, Watson is getting the 3rd spot. If he ends up getting the 15th standard roster spot instead, I figure we can let Ramsey (I think he's eligible but not positive), Harper Jr, Tillie, Enaruna and House battle for it in training camp.

Yeah. Whoever they got would basically cost the 15th slot salary. (Probably in the form of bumping Watson from a 2-way to a regular deal.) Either that, or one of Peterson/Davison would be cut for the new guy.

I think if Watson gets bumped up, it will be to lock him in for 4 years rather than to give someone else a 3-way (though someone else getting a three-way would be a likely result).

[Hal14]

If I had to guess, Watson is getting the 15th spot and Ramsey on a two way. Otherwise, why sit Ramsey for the final summer league game when the guy is fighting to stick in the league?

Yeah, you might be right..otherwise, it'd hard to understand why they would have sat Ramsey yesterday..

[neno]

Walsh will shoot better in the reg.

I don't think anybody is predicting he'll shoot worse.

If he does I'm off the bandwagon

[ConstableGeneva]

If I had to guess, Watson is getting the 15th spot and Ramsey on a two way. Otherwise, why sit Ramsey for the final summer league game when the guy is fighting to stick in the league?

Yeah, you might be right..otherwise, it'd hard to understand why they would have sat Ramsey yesterday..

He could have a standing offer from another club and he/his agent asked to sit final games to avoid injury.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

B Robb says Baylor reminds him of Herro type, not quite as good.
Although, I would argue that Baylor, averaging 5 rebounds and 3 assists this Summer League, is
likely to be a better rebounder and facilitator than Herro...

[Gant]

Probably the Celtics are just being patient with the open roster spot. There are good free agents floating around in unsigned land. You never know who might say, "Hell with it, I'll go to Boston and get a ring."

Brissett remains undecided as well, and they'd bring him back. As roster spots diminish around the league, the longer it goes with talent still looking for a home, the larger the chance they land someone that can help. And the longer it goes, the more they learn about their own young guys.

There's very little pressure to make an immediate move.

[return2glory]

Parl, great job once again with this thread and the updates! I don't think you get enough credit for it.

Good to have a 5th game tomorrow.

[return2glory]

Hopefully Watson and Baylor play tomorrow.

I mainly watch the SL games for these two with Springer, Queta and Peterson not playing.

I've seen Watson play a lot with the Zags, he was my sleeper pick. I'm glad he is playing well. Not surprised at all.

As for Baylor, I felt his rebounding and shot creation would be better. I'm not concerned about his shooting, that will come like it did in the last game. But Baylor not getting up enough shots. It's too early to tell if it's because he wants to get his teammates more involved or because he is having a tough time getting shots up. I want to see that part of his game improve. That's a huge skill to have in the NBA. The point of release on his shot is a little too low for me.

Look at Sam Hauser as an example. He isn't a shot creator off the dribble, but he can get his shot up due to his very quick release and the higher release point on his shot.

[Dogen]

If I had to guess, Watson is getting the 15th spot and Ramsey on a two way. Otherwise, why sit Ramsey for the final summer league game when the guy is fighting to stick in the league?

Yeah, you might be right..otherwise, it'd hard to understand why they would have sat Ramsey yesterday..

I'd be OK with this. Anton "Walker" Watson ("Walker" because he walks around the court, but to the right spots) seems like he's ready to come in and be that steady, not flashy, jack of all trades guy. Perfect for 15th spot.

Ramsey was sort of a disappointment in a way. I expected more, but he's got the body, athleticism and decent shooting. Like Springer, he's more of a guy that likes to take the ball and go down hill, and he got himself into bad spots trying to do too much maybe. Springer seems to have learned a lot of what is expected in the past few months. Likewise, Ramsey can take time in Maine and be available later in the year on a 2-Way if needed. Fits pretty well as a compliment to JD and Peterson.

So, disappointed, in a way, but out of the guys in SL Ramsey already has decent NBA experience and more upside. He'd also be a lot of fun for fans since the G-League is not very defensive oriented and he'd make some nice highlights.

[Parliament10]

Parl, great job once again with this thread and the updates! I don't think you get enough credit for it.

Good to have a 5th game tomorrow.

Thank You, I Appreciate it!!!

Just doing my part.

[Parliament10]

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[Shak_Celts]

Watson looked good, some iffy moments on D, I think he’s going to look even better when there is structure with the big boy club! He’ll be out there with a ton of smart basketball players, beyond just talent. Really believe he’ll thrive. He’ll see things but will be with other guys who can match his sight, they’ll just know, which will make it easier for him.

Edit; I know I keep talking about him but he’s boring and good like Al/White types. They are amazing but you wouldn’t know it if you don’t pay attention. I hope things translate for him.

[sam_I_am]

Probably the Celtics are just being patient with the open roster spot. There are good free agents floating around in unsigned land. You never know who might say, "Hell with it, I'll go to Boston and get a ring."

Brissett remains undecided as well, and they'd bring him back. As roster spots diminish around the league, the longer it goes with talent still looking for a home, the larger the chance they land someone that can help. And the longer it goes, the more they learn about their own young guys.

There's very little pressure to make an immediate move.

Great point. I have to be brutally honest and say that not a single guy on the summer league roster is a difference maker right now. If we can grab a guy like Tyus Jones or Fultz or Precious with a minimum contract…..hell yes that is worth the wait. I think Oshai Brissett is better than anyone on SL roster.

Now Springer, Walsh, Baylor and Queta are all locked up and I think Queta at least has the potential to help a lot. Maybe Springer or Walsh can replace Brissett off the bench well enough. However, none of them is likely to be a reliable contributor come playoff time this year.

Dallas got Derrick Jones Jr last year on a minimum and this year seems like more guys like him are going to get screwed out of a fair paycheck due to new salary cap rules. I’d much rather that spot get filled by a legit player than another G-leaguer. If we can get a quality NBA player on a vet minimum then that is option #1 for me.

[Hal14]

Great point. I have to be brutally honest and say that not a single guy on the summer league roster is a difference maker right now. If we can grab a guy like Tyus Jones or Fultz or Precious with a minimum contract…..hell yes that is worth the wait. I think Oshai Brissett is better than anyone on SL roster.

Now Springer, Walsh, Baylor and Queta are all locked up and I think Queta at least has the potential to help a lot. Maybe Springer or Walsh can replace Brissett off the bench well enough. However, none of them is likely to be a reliable contributor come playoff time this year.

Dallas got Derrick Jones Jr last year on a minimum and this year seems like more guys like him are going to get screwed out of a fair paycheck due to new salary cap rules. I’d much rather that spot get filled by a legit player than another G-leaguer. If we can get a quality NBA player on a vet minimum then that is option #1 for me.

Sounds nice but DJJ went to Dallas because he was being given a chance to compete for a *starting* position, which he got..he was starting for them in the NBA finals. They had basically no wings when they signed him.

Oubre signed for the minimum w/ Philly because he had a legit chance to start for them - and he did.

Gary Trent jr signed for the min with the Bucks..he'll start for them. Theis signed for the min with pelicans - he'll probably start for them.

Boston is in a vastly different position. Sounds nice in theory to just go ahead, snap your fingers and sign the best available veteran wing to a dirt cheap minimum contract but we have two all-NBA caliber players for wings, plus Hauser. Our top 8 guys are set in stone. Our top 10 guys off last year's team are all back.

Whoever the best available vet FA is, will likely sign somewhere he can get more playing time.

The last guy we signed last summer was Lamar Stevens and Svi.

Last guys we signed the year before that was Griffin, Vonleh and Justin Jackson.

I'm not expecting a big FA signing this summer..

Spots 11-15 aren't gonna make much of a difference on our title chances anyways. You win or lose a title based on how good your top 7 or 8 guys are. So I'm fine with developing our young guys (watson, scheierman, walsh, springer, queta) for those end of bench spots, so we can develop them into players who down the road could be even better than those vet min FA guys you're clamoring for..

I mean, most of the guys on the list of top available FA right now are basically one phone call away from signing with an overseas team (except for Tyus). Pat Bev jus signed with a team in Israel. Jabari Parker and both Hernangomez brothers and Kendrick Nunn all enjoyed success overseas last season..There were rumors that Theis was considering signing with an overseas team before he just signed with the Pelicans. Svi was *this* close to signing with a European team last year before he signed with BOS. It's not like there is any guys left in free agency who would be a huge difference maker.

And we're probably the last team that would sign Tyus, since we have more PG depth than basically every team in the league.

Lastly, these bottom of the barrel FA (and their agents) saw what happened last year when Banton and Stevens got way more playing time after being traded from BOS and Brissett says in interviews that he wants to go to a team where he can play more so they don;t want to come here..