2024 NBA Draft Thread

[SeattleJazzFan]

Jazz have too many guys looking for their own on their SL team.
Keyonte and Sensabaugh chucking.

key should be done, possibly hendricks too. i'd like to see sensabaugh a bit more, but i don't know what else they need to see from key. it would be nice to turn it over to the rookies.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Jazz have too many guys looking for their own on their SL team.
Keyonte and Sensabaugh chucking.

key should be done, possibly hendricks too. i'd like to see sensabaugh a bit more, but i don't know what else they need to see from key. it would be nice to turn it over to the rookies.

yeah, at this point you know what you have with George. A high usage chucker that is amongst the worst defenders in the league. A small shooting guard. I can't imagine Danny Ainge believes he'll be part of their future core. He can be a useful tank commander but the Jazz already have several guys just like him. It sucks that Collier, the lone true PG of the bunch, will probably lose minutes to these guys.

[clyde21]

Ware has looked good in every game so far

[clyde21]

Ware has looked good in every game so far

add another one

imagine if he starts liking basketball

[facothomas22]

I wonder if most guys in the 8-18 range will be better than the first 2 picks in this draft class. Alex Sarr has looked awful,while Zaccharie Risacher has looked fine, nothing suggest star level upside right now. When I think of guys in the 8-18 range that can atleast be very good 6th man if not more in the NBA based on the Summer League, I'm thinking of Rob Dillingham, Zach Edey,Cody Williams, Matas Buzelis,Bub Carrlington,Kel'El Ware,and Tristan Da Silva. This isn't even including guys like Devin Carter or Nikola Topic who's has been unable to play due to injuries. I want to include Jared McCain because the tools are there, but so far he has struggled a bit.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I've watched every televised game and there's only one prospect I'm disappointed in and that's Collier. He appears to not be taking things seriously enough. He's lackadaisical with the ball in his hands like he's trying to project that he's bored and he's simply not good enough to be doing that. It makes him sloppy and turnover prone. And I've seen him fail to run back on defense a couple of times which I can't stand. It's like everything is a joke to him. He's always smiling and his intensity sucks.

he's G-League bound and I'm officially worried about him. There are too many guards he needs to beat out that he won't play if he continues to act like this.

[NO-KG-AI]

Ware has looked good in every game so far

Given our needs, and what’s available in this draft, he was like the only realistic target I was geeked over as a Pels fan.

[JMAC3]

Here is why SL is mostly meaningless to me.
1. For Bigs... the SL big man talent is really bad. How many real NBA bigs have played in Vegas? 3? out of 30 teams. Ware, Clingan, TJD. and no Edey thus far. So there really isn't good enough bigs to really expose any of their weaknesses tbh. Guys like Orlando Robinson and Neemias Queta look like gods playing against these bums.

2. Bad Defenders. Dillingham, Knecht, McCain etc... guys who are projected to struggle on that end should be fine playing mostly against non-nba players and even the good ones are fringe rotation guys... Tyler Herro, Austin Reaves, Jordan Hawkins.. all would be fine in SL but in NBA games they are constantly attacked.

The guys who I probably take the most note of are the wings like Matas, Cody Williams, Castle... who had more offensive question marks but have shown some scoring pop that some worried would be lacking.

The single guy I have been probably been most impressed by is Furphy. As an underclassman who many thought would struggle he has looked really good and been ultra productive.

[HadAnEffectHere]

I've watched every televised game and there's only one prospect I'm disappointed in and that's Collier. He appears to not be taking things seriously enough. He's lackadaisical with the ball in his hands like he's trying to project that he's bored and he's simply not good enough to be doing that. It makes him sloppy and turnover prone. And I've seen him fail to run back on defense a couple of times which I can't stand. It's like everything is a joke to him. He's always smiling and his intensity sucks.

he's G-League bound and I'm officially worried about him. There are too many guards he needs to beat out that he won't play if he continues to act like this.

I mean, at no point at USC did he try hard at all either. He was constantly complaining to the refs instead of running back on defense. He threw tons of garbage passes that were unlikely to succeed just because they would have looked cool if they worked. His intangibles and his jumpshot are why he fell to 29th.

It would have been nice to see him with an attitude check after falling so far in the draft though.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I've watched every televised game and there's only one prospect I'm disappointed in and that's Collier. He appears to not be taking things seriously enough. He's lackadaisical with the ball in his hands like he's trying to project that he's bored and he's simply not good enough to be doing that. It makes him sloppy and turnover prone. And I've seen him fail to run back on defense a couple of times which I can't stand. It's like everything is a joke to him. He's always smiling and his intensity sucks.

he's G-League bound and I'm officially worried about him. There are too many guards he needs to beat out that he won't play if he continues to act like this.

I mean, at no point at USC did he try hard at all either. He was constantly complaining to the refs instead of running back on defense. He threw tons of garbage passes that were unlikely to succeed just because they would have looked cool if they worked. His intangibles and his jumpshot are why he fell to 29th.

It would have been nice to see him with an attitude check after falling so far in the draft though.

agreed. You'd think that would be a wake up call. I guess I was giving him a pass due to the train wreck that was the USC season but it might just be that he doesn't have that dawg in him. He played harder tonight so maybe he got talked to about it after last game.

[Big J]

Here is why SL is mostly meaningless to me.
1. For Bigs... the SL big man talent is really bad. How many real NBA bigs have played in Vegas? 3? out of 30 teams. Ware, Clingan, TJD. and no Edey thus far. So there really isn't good enough bigs to really expose any of their weaknesses tbh. Guys like Orlando Robinson and Neemias Queta look like gods playing against these bums.

2. Bad Defenders. Dillingham, Knecht, McCain etc... guys who are projected to struggle on that end should be fine playing mostly against non-nba players and even the good ones are fringe rotation guys... Tyler Herro, Austin Reaves, Jordan Hawkins.. all would be fine in SL but in NBA games they are constantly attacked.

The guys who I probably take the most note of are the wings like Matas, Cody Williams, Castle... who had more offensive question marks but have shown some scoring pop that some worried would be lacking.

The single guy I have been probably been most impressed by is Furphy. As an underclassman who many thought would struggle he has looked really good and been ultra productive.

I'm surprised Clyde's bat signal didn't go up when you called Jordan Hawkins a bad defender. Dude's been stinkin' it up in SL.

[Chuck Everett]

So a funny thing about Isaiah Stevens' success this summer league (41 assists, 12 turnovers). I didn't think he had much of a shot because he had gained so much weight and didn't look as lean as he did playing with Roddy back in 2022.

But his performance got me thinking. Colorado State overachieved with him with 2 NCAA appearances. Is it possible that playing with NBA level players, may actually elevate his natural gifts as a floor general? I mean he's dropping dimes, but Colorado State, the best player he ever played with was David Roddy and Nique Clifford. Those guys are nothing burgers in the grand scheme of things.

Stevens just may carve out a career as a solid backup ala Monte Morris if this AST/TO is legit.

[EMG518]

Nobody talks about Jaylon Tyson, not during the season, not during summer league. I don't get it.

He should be playing day 1 for the Cavs. Can provide some much needed juice to their offense.

[clyde21]

glad the NBA is load managing in summer league now too

[Big J]

glad the NBA is load managing in summer league now too

Can't really blame em. Teams probably saw what happened to DaRon Holes and said Oh hell naw.

[JMAC3]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Edey starting for memphis - this has been announced
I'd expect Castle to start for SAS


at least at the beginning of the season perhaps just those two. unless atlanta starts risacher because they drafted him #1.

[babyjax13]

I think Cody Williams and Ron Holland both have reasonable chances to start, though possibly partway through the season. Same for Sarr.

[Colbinii]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

From the first game?

1) ATL Zaccharie Risacher - I doubt he starts over Hunter/Bogdanovic/Daniels/Johnson [whoever could start 2-4].
2) WAS Alex Sarr - I think he starts at the 4 next to Val. I like Poole off the bench and Brogdon/Kispert/Kuzma/Sarr/Val as the starters.
3) HOU Reed Sheppard - He won't start but he could easily be ROY. No doubt the most NBA ready perimeter player in this draft. Going to be one of the best shooters in the NBA Day 1 and a neutral defender who creates a ton of turnovers while being a + playmaker.
4) SAS Stephon Castle - He isn't starting over CP3/Tre, isn't starting over Vassell and then at the 3/4 the Spurs have Barnes/Sochan/Keldon.
5) DET Ron Holland - Worse player than Ausar and the team is desperate for spacing around Cade/Ausar/Duren. I expect Harris/Stewart to start.
6) CHO Tidjane Salaün - Talk about a prospect who is 2 years away from being 2 years away No shot he starts, though down the road once Ball gets injured, he could make some starts if Charlotte see's themselves out of the Play-In discussion.
7) POR Donovan Clingan - He can't start over Ayton, but he is NBA ready to start [He would start for New Orleans, for example].
8) SAS Rob Dillingham - He will be starting for the Iowa Wolves until Thanksgiving. Won't be starting for the deepest/2nd deepest team in the NBA.
9) MEM Zach Edey - Most NBA ready prospect in the Draft. He will be starting and be a nightmare for smaller teams and teams with smaller and slower Centers [See Houston, Sacramento, ect].
10) UTA Cody Williams - He starts when the tank starts.

Non-Top 10
12) SAC Devin Carter - He had a chance to start but was injured.
15) Kel'el Ware - I think he starts some games next to Bam. Very talented player who had questions regarding his mentality and approach, but all things we have seen from Miami have been resoundingly positive.
17) Dalton Knecht - If the Lakers get an injury bug or he shows out as a 40%+ 3P shooter, he could start some games at the 3.
32) Kyle Filipowski - See Cody Williams.

[babyjax13]

How many rookie starters are we expecting? 1 or 2?

Last years top 10 might only have 3-4 for year 2.

From the first game?

1) ATL Zaccharie Risacher - I doubt he starts over Hunter/Bogdanovic/Daniels/Johnson [whoever could start 2-4].
2) WAS Alex Sarr - I think he starts at the 4 next to Val. I like Poole off the bench and Brogdon/Kispert/Kuzma/Sarr/Val as the starters.
3) HOU Reed Sheppard - He won't start but he could easily be ROY. No doubt the most NBA ready perimeter player in this draft. Going to be one of the best shooters in the NBA Day 1 and a neutral defender who creates a ton of turnovers while being a + playmaker.
4) SAS Stephon Castle - He isn't starting over CP3/Tre, isn't starting over Vassell and then at the 3/4 the Spurs have Barnes/Sochan/Keldon.
5) DET Ron Holland - Worse player than Ausar and the team is desperate for spacing around Cade/Ausar/Duren. I expect Harris/Stewart to start.
6) CHO Tidjane Salaün - Talk about a prospect who is 2 years away from being 2 years away No shot he starts, though down the road once Ball gets injured, he could make some starts if Charlotte see's themselves out of the Play-In discussion.
7) POR Donovan Clingan - He can't start over Ayton, but he is NBA ready to start [He would start for New Orleans, for example].
8) SAS Rob Dillingham - He will be starting for the Iowa Wolves until Thanksgiving. Won't be starting for the deepest/2nd deepest team in the NBA.
9) MEM Zach Edey - Most NBA ready prospect in the Draft. He will be starting and be a nightmare for smaller teams and teams with smaller and slower Centers [See Houston, Sacramento, ect].
10) UTA Cody Williams - He starts when the tank starts.

Non-Top 10
12) SAC Devin Carter - He had a chance to start but was injured.
15) Kel'el Ware - I think he starts some games next to Bam. Very talented player who had questions regarding his mentality and approach, but all things we have seen from Miami have been resoundingly positive.
17) Dalton Knecht - If the Lakers get an injury bug or he shows out as a 40%+ 3P shooter, he could start some games at the 3.
32) Kyle Filipowski - See Cody Williams.

Washington has already named Poole the starting point guard. Not that it matters much, but re: the lineup you prefer. Basically agree with this list, but could see Holland being able to score at some volume and that being preferable to Ausar in the starting lineup (probably a better shooter than Ausar, too).