2024 Summer League

[Saberestar]

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[starbosa10]

Liked what I saw from oso and Bridges

[sunsbg]

Nice passing from Oso. Right now it's more likely he finds a role on the team based on high BB IQ. Dunn's only skill at this point is staying in front of his man. From what I read he didn't rotate well on D. Both need to put a lot of work on shooting to become regular contributors.

[lilfishi22]

I liked Oso's playmaking in this game. I really don't know how much he'll be able to show at the NBA level but it's a rare skill for an NBA big.

[RaisingArizona]

I said Kolek till I was blue in my face but JJ has to try and be the smartest guy in the room and he typically falls flat on his face

[lilfishi22]

I still like Kolek. He's a floor general who brings high level playmaking, elite court vision, can attack the rim, plays smart defense and a really solid shooter. Early 20's would be a bit high but he's a good trade down candidate especially if you can get a 2nd out of it to be used for future trades. Pair him with an actually offensively minded coach who can leverage his skillset and I think we could have a very high octane offense.

We got the offensively minded coach, we likely will have a higher octane offense, we traded down to get another extra asset and Kolek was still there at #28

[garrick]

I watched most of the Mil game and was pretty impressed by Bridges and his ability to shoot the three.

Oso also showed he'll at least be somewhat of a lob threat and he is a good passing big, Dunn was invisible and came up way short on some of his shots so it's not a very encouraging sign that he's getting closer to being a reliable jump shooter.

[sunsbum]

Kolek will never be starting caliber. Dude is a glorified 2nd / 3rd PG for his career. Yall fall in love with some average players.

Dunn, and OSO are horrible. I wish we would have drafted Isaiah Collier or traded the draft pick for someone that can help now (as thats when we need to win)

You don’t know sh. If anything the fact that you don’t like him tells me he’s a better player than I think he is.

I’ll bet you $10k that dude won’t ever be anything more than a 2nd unit player

would totally suck to have a guy like TJ Mcconel you drafted in the 2nd round amirite?

[KdoubleDees23]

You don’t know sh. If anything the fact that you don’t like him tells me he’s a better player than I think he is.

I’ll bet you $10k that dude won’t ever be anything more than a 2nd unit player

would totally suck to have a guy like TJ Mcconel you drafted in the 2nd round amirite?

This guy won't sniff McConnells jock strap

[Saberestar]

Final stats:
2W/3L

Ryan Dunn
5.8 points, 3.8 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.5 blocks. 34% FG, 8% 3P and 0/1 FTs. 25 MPG.

Oso Ighodaro
7 points, 6 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks. 50% FG, 90% FT (9/10). 26 MPG.

Jalen Bridges
10.8 points, 2.2 boards, 1 assists, 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks. 43% FG, 40% 3P, 100% FT (4/4). 18 MPG.

[sunsbum]

I’ll bet you $10k that dude won’t ever be anything more than a 2nd unit player

would totally suck to have a guy like TJ Mcconel you drafted in the 2nd round amirite?

This guy won't sniff McConnells jock strap

I’m just using him as an example for a 2nd unit player that you are insinuating as such a terrible thing to turn into.

[bwgood77]

I said Kolek till I was blue in my face but JJ has to try and be the smartest guy in the room and he typically falls flat on his face

[KdoubleDees23]

Here is my take on Summer League Players.

Rookies I am excited to see!

Reed Shepard
Bub Carrington
Stephon Castle
Buzelis
Kel'El Ware
Collier

Maybes (Have potential)

Clingan
Edey
Tristan De Silva
Risacher
Terrance Shannon
Ron Holland
Cody Williams

Flops

Sarr
Dillingham
McCain
Bronny

[bigfoot]

Final stats:
2W/3L

Ryan Dunn
5.8 points, 3.8 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.5 blocks. 34% FG, 8% 3P and 0/1 FTs. 25 MPG.

Oso Ighodaro
7 points, 6 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks. 50% FG, 90% FT (9/10). 26 MPG.

Jalen Bridges
10.8 points, 2.2 boards, 1 assists, 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks. 43% FG, 40% 3P, 100% FT (4/4). 18 MPG.

Ighodaro is intriguing. I think he could stick with his basketball smarts, passing, ball handling, screen setting, hard rolls, etc. I expect he will be a sold rotational player.

Dunn is an odd duck to me. JJ has typically drafted older players with quality shooting. For example, Camara, Jalen Smith, and Cam Johnson. Shooting is just too important of a skill and we see how it impacts players like Okogie. If he develops a shot he will be starter at some point. If he can't he will wash out of the league or best be like Okogie.

[KdoubleDees23]

Final stats:
2W/3L

Ryan Dunn
5.8 points, 3.8 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.5 blocks. 34% FG, 8% 3P and 0/1 FTs. 25 MPG.

Oso Ighodaro
7 points, 6 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks. 50% FG, 90% FT (9/10). 26 MPG.

Jalen Bridges
10.8 points, 2.2 boards, 1 assists, 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks. 43% FG, 40% 3P, 100% FT (4/4). 18 MPG.

Ighodaro is intriguing. I think he could stick with his basketball smarts, passing, ball handling, screen setting, hard rolls, etc. I expect he will be a sold rotational player.

Dunn is an odd duck to me. JJ has typically drafted older players with quality shooting. For example, Camara, Jalen Smith, and Cam Johnson. Shooting is just too important of a skill and we see how it impacts players like Okogie. If he develops a shot he will be starter at some point. If he can't he will wash out of the league or best be like Okogie.

I agree I think Oso is way better than Dunn.

[lilfishi22]

Final stats:
2W/3L

Ryan Dunn
5.8 points, 3.8 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.5 blocks. 34% FG, 8% 3P and 0/1 FTs. 25 MPG.

Oso Ighodaro
7 points, 6 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks. 50% FG, 90% FT (9/10). 26 MPG.

Jalen Bridges
10.8 points, 2.2 boards, 1 assists, 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks. 43% FG, 40% 3P, 100% FT (4/4). 18 MPG.

Ighodaro is intriguing. I think he could stick with his basketball smarts, passing, ball handling, screen setting, hard rolls, etc. I expect he will be a sold rotational player.

Dunn is an odd duck to me. JJ has typically drafted older players with quality shooting. For example, Camara, Jalen Smith, and Cam Johnson. Shooting is just too important of a skill and we see how it impacts players like Okogie. If he develops a shot he will be starter at some point. If he can't he will wash out of the league or best be like Okogie.

I'd say Oso at the very least has an interesting player profile which he may be able to find a niche with in the NBA. Being able to make plays as a big does add to your value as does defense. His 2:1 assist to turnover ratio (21:11) is very intriguing and so is his leading the team in assists during the SL. I knew he's a solid playmaker but I didn't know if it would follow him to the SL but that fact that it did, does give me some more hope it's something he can continue to improve on and make it work at the NBA level. His offense has some ways to go but I did like seeing some of his ball handling ability for his and he managed to get back into the 50% for overall FG% which isn't great for a big but at least it isn't terrible and being able to work in the paint and get fouled where he does convert those freebies at a high level is also a real bonus. I think if he isn't a good scorer, he can at least be a high level connector like Nurk and unlike Nurk, an actual lob threat and has quickness .

Bridges is exactly who I expected him to be, 3&D wing with good size who's a legit shooter that can come in, run around screens and jack up 3's with volume in those 15-20mpg. Seeing him attacking the close out and then pulling up for a sweet middy tells me he's also developing an in-between game. That has real value in this league, especially if he continues to improve defensively because that could only complement his shooting in today's NBA. It seems like he's likely to spend a lot of team with the Valley Suns which is great because he'll have more playing time and I expect he'd do very well down there. As I mentioned in the Bridges thread, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting more consistent rotation minutes with the Suns than Dunn by the end of the season.

Not sure where to go with Dunn. On the one hand, he's really good defensively, guys at least at this level seem to already be afraid when he's in front of them and he does a great job with those defensive rotations which leads to picking off passes, weak side blocks and just generally messing up opposing plays but on the other hand, despite what some may try to convince you about his offense, it's more clear than ever that it's not at the NBA level (it's not even SL level) even if you can argue he's dunks well or he's finished on the rare cut to the basket. The simple fact that he'd likely get most of his offense from close to the basket for some time, if not forever which means he may get fouled but is unable to convert at the line is a major major conundrum. His career will be made or broken based on whether he can find his way into being a threat offensively in the NBA. For a guy coming into the league shooting 20% from 3 and 53% from the FT line in college, and to a team with so few draft assets left, he's just not who I would've bet my last few dollars on quite frankly

[garrick]

Final stats:
2W/3L

Ryan Dunn
5.8 points, 3.8 boards, 1.8 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.5 blocks. 34% FG, 8% 3P and 0/1 FTs. 25 MPG.

Oso Ighodaro
7 points, 6 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.2 blocks. 50% FG, 90% FT (9/10). 26 MPG.

Jalen Bridges
10.8 points, 2.2 boards, 1 assists, 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks. 43% FG, 40% 3P, 100% FT (4/4). 18 MPG.

Ighodaro is intriguing. I think he could stick with his basketball smarts, passing, ball handling, screen setting, hard rolls, etc. I expect he will be a sold rotational player.

Dunn is an odd duck to me. JJ has typically drafted older players with quality shooting. For example, Camara, Jalen Smith, and Cam Johnson. Shooting is just too important of a skill and we see how it impacts players like Okogie. If he develops a shot he will be starter at some point. If he can't he will wash out of the league or best be like Okogie.

I'd say Oso at the very least has an interesting player profile which he may be able to find a niche with in the NBA. Being able to make plays as a big does add to your value as does defense. His 2:1 assist to turnover ratio (21:11) is very intriguing and so is his leading the team in assists during the SL. I knew he's a solid playmaker but I didn't know if it would follow him to the SL but that fact that it did, does give me some more hope it's something he can continue to improve on and make it work at the NBA level. His offense has some ways to go but I did like seeing some of his ball handling ability for his and he managed to get back into the 50% for overall FG% which isn't great for a big but at least it isn't terrible and being able to work in the paint and get fouled where he does convert those freebies at a high level is also a real bonus. I think if he isn't a good scorer, he can at least be a high level connector like Nurk and unlike Nurk, an actual lob threat and has quickness .

Bridges is exactly who I expected him to be, 3&D wing with good size who's a legit shooter that can come in, run around screens and jack up 3's with volume in those 15-20mpg. Seeing him attacking the close out and then pulling up for a sweet middy tells me he's also developing an in-between game. That has real value in this league, especially if he continues to improve defensively because that could only complement his shooting in today's NBA. It seems like he's likely to spend a lot of team with the Valley Suns which is great because he'll have more playing time and I expect he'd do very well down there. As I mentioned in the Bridges thread, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting more consistent rotation minutes with the Suns than Dunn by the end of the season.

Not sure where to go with Dunn. On the one hand, he's really good defensively, guys at least at this level seem to already be afraid when he's in front of them and he does a great job with those defensive rotations which leads to picking off passes, weak side blocks and just generally messing up opposing plays but on the other hand, despite what some may try to convince you about his offense, it's more clear than ever that it's not at the NBA level (it's not even SL level) even if you can argue he's dunks well or he's finished on the rare cut to the basket. The simple fact that he'd likely get most of his offense from close to the basket for some time, if not forever which means he may get fouled but is unable to convert at the line is a major major conundrum. His career will be made or broken based on whether he can find his way into being a threat offensively in the NBA. For a guy coming into the league shooting 20% from 3 and 53% from the FT line in college, and to a team with so few draft assets left, he's just not who I would've bet my last few dollars on quite frankly

Dunn at best would be someone you put in with one possession left with the lead and you want a point of attack defender but you better have a timeout left to quickly get him out because teams will employ the hack a Shaq method on him and force him to beat them from the line.

I just don't know if such a player will have any value at the end of your bench though because you have more versatile players ahead of him that can contribute more than just 1-2 defensive stops in a game.

[Fo-Real]

Does Wong get the final 2 way spot??

[lilfishi22]

Ighodaro is intriguing. I think he could stick with his basketball smarts, passing, ball handling, screen setting, hard rolls, etc. I expect he will be a sold rotational player.

Dunn is an odd duck to me. JJ has typically drafted older players with quality shooting. For example, Camara, Jalen Smith, and Cam Johnson. Shooting is just too important of a skill and we see how it impacts players like Okogie. If he develops a shot he will be starter at some point. If he can't he will wash out of the league or best be like Okogie.

I'd say Oso at the very least has an interesting player profile which he may be able to find a niche with in the NBA. Being able to make plays as a big does add to your value as does defense. His 2:1 assist to turnover ratio (21:11) is very intriguing and so is his leading the team in assists during the SL. I knew he's a solid playmaker but I didn't know if it would follow him to the SL but that fact that it did, does give me some more hope it's something he can continue to improve on and make it work at the NBA level. His offense has some ways to go but I did like seeing some of his ball handling ability for his and he managed to get back into the 50% for overall FG% which isn't great for a big but at least it isn't terrible and being able to work in the paint and get fouled where he does convert those freebies at a high level is also a real bonus. I think if he isn't a good scorer, he can at least be a high level connector like Nurk and unlike Nurk, an actual lob threat and has quickness .

Bridges is exactly who I expected him to be, 3&D wing with good size who's a legit shooter that can come in, run around screens and jack up 3's with volume in those 15-20mpg. Seeing him attacking the close out and then pulling up for a sweet middy tells me he's also developing an in-between game. That has real value in this league, especially if he continues to improve defensively because that could only complement his shooting in today's NBA. It seems like he's likely to spend a lot of team with the Valley Suns which is great because he'll have more playing time and I expect he'd do very well down there. As I mentioned in the Bridges thread, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting more consistent rotation minutes with the Suns than Dunn by the end of the season.

Not sure where to go with Dunn. On the one hand, he's really good defensively, guys at least at this level seem to already be afraid when he's in front of them and he does a great job with those defensive rotations which leads to picking off passes, weak side blocks and just generally messing up opposing plays but on the other hand, despite what some may try to convince you about his offense, it's more clear than ever that it's not at the NBA level (it's not even SL level) even if you can argue he's dunks well or he's finished on the rare cut to the basket. The simple fact that he'd likely get most of his offense from close to the basket for some time, if not forever which means he may get fouled but is unable to convert at the line is a major major conundrum. His career will be made or broken based on whether he can find his way into being a threat offensively in the NBA. For a guy coming into the league shooting 20% from 3 and 53% from the FT line in college, and to a team with so few draft assets left, he's just not who I would've bet my last few dollars on quite frankly

Dunn at best would be someone you put in with one possession left with the lead and you want a point of attack defender but you better have a timeout left to quickly get him out because teams will employ the hack a Shaq method on him and force him to beat them from the line.

I just don't know if such a player will have any value at the end of your bench though because you have more versatile players ahead of him that can contribute more than just 1-2 defensive stops in a game.

I've said this before but I think his path towards a career in the NBA if he doesn't find his shot (which is a real and wouldn't be an unexpected outcome) is to be a small ball 4/5 which means he'll need to put on more weight and be prepared to do Dennis Rodman things. The fact that he was a good but not elite college rebounder does hurt him a bit. But having great activity and motor does make up for some of that lack of size and rebounding

[sashaturiaf]

Pretty disappointing summer league for Dunn, unfortunately he's going to be the offensive zero that he was scouted as. Perhaps an interesting long term prospect but he has no role on any team that's trying to make noise in the playoffs being that limited offensively.

It's a strange pick but I think it's JJ admitting his mistake by giving away Camara in the Ayton trade, Dunn is pretty much the Camara that we never got to have.