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Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas

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Re: Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas 

Post#1721 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:30 pm

Red2 wrote:How will he be fine? He can’t even defend summer league guys. You can’t play him in an nba game

We'll know more when they play preseason games.

Worst case scenario is Rico becomes the next Svi for the 2024-25 season.

But I don't think he will be as bad as Svi on defense.

Rico's bigger and stronger.

Looking at the bigger picture, the Celtics have Springer for that backup SG spot, so if Rico ends up not playing a lot in 2024-25, that really doesn't hurt the depth of the Cs.
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Post#1722 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:38 pm

Red2 wrote:We could use a 6’ 8”-6’10” athlete to run the floor, rebound and defend

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Post#1723 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:44 pm

Memokerobi wrote:Baylor will be fine

I agree but I'm thinking he pretty much only plays in Maine this season..except for some garbage time here and there with the big club.

And that's ok. Max Strus, Duncan Robinson, Hauser, Derrick White and many others followed that type of path, using year 1 as a development year in G league..
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Post#1724 » by JTMVP » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:51 pm

I don't think that ANY of the C's summer leaguers will contribute this year other than Queta and Springer. But this doesn't mean that I think they have no future. All this means is that they aren't ready right now.

The posters with the very negative takes on here are justified in commenting on what they saw. But they're not justified in stating that Baylor, Walsh, etc. will be draft busts. We just don't know. I can absolutely see them develop and be contributing role players 1-3 years down the road. Things change. Players improve. Be patient with the process. They are all second rounders/undrafted for a reason (plus Baylor, who is just about a second rounder).
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Re: Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas 

Post#1725 » by KamikazeK » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:05 am

Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.
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Post#1726 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:12 am

Red2 wrote:We could use a 6’ 8”-6’10” athlete to run the floor, rebound and defend


Even better if we could draft him at 6'8" before he grew to 6'10". :wink:
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Post#1727 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:15 am

Shak_Celts wrote:Scottie pippen jr messed around and got a triple double? Seems like I missed a lot of kids playing well this SL.


Walsh was just 3 boards and 4 TOs short of triple-dub of his own.
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Post#1728 » by Fierce1 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:15 am

KamikazeK wrote:Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.

The cost of getting Walsh was very minimal and he was looked at as a project.

So there will be no alarm bells ringing if he doesn't pan out.
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Post#1729 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:20 am

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KamikazeK wrote:Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.

The cost of getting Walsh was very minimal and he was looked at as a project.

So there will be no alarm bells ringing if he doesn't pan out.

Going into that draft, we started with the 25th pick and moved down to pick up four seconds and Jordan Walsh. We then took three of those specific 2nds and used them to acquire Xavier Tillman and Jaden Springer. Then we won the freaking chip. And we still have the “best of” 2nd rounder out of DET/WAS/GSW next draft, in loaded 2025.

If Jordan Walsh was waived tomorrow, draft night 2023 was a STRIKING success, so he’s like found money, he’s like that you found a dollar on the side of the road and went and bought a scratch off with it, you really can’t lose.

That’s how I look at it

EDIT : I forgot, one of the 2nds used to acquire Tillman was Dallas’s that we got in the Grant S&T so all three weren’t from the 23 draft night, and we still have a 2026 2nd left from the draft night haul. Minor but necessarily clarification. The point is the same though as pertains to Walsh.
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Post#1730 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:27 am

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KamikazeK wrote:Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.

The cost of getting Walsh was very minimal and he was looked at as a project.

So there will be no alarm bells ringing if he doesn't pan out.

Going into that draft, we started with the 25th pick and moved down to pick up four seconds and Jordan Walsh. We then took three of those specific 2nds and used them to acquire Xavier Tillman and Jaden Springer. Then we won the freaking chip. And we still have the “best of” 2nd rounder out of DET/WAS/GSW next draft, in loaded 2025.

If Jordan Walsh was waived tomorrow, draft night 2023 was a STRIKING success, so he’s like found money, he’s like that you found a dollar on the side of the road and went and bought a scratch off with it, you really can’t lose.

That’s how I look at it


I forgot about that. What a boss Brad is.
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Post#1731 » by return2glory » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:38 am

Nice game by Cook. He was very effective and made things happen.

Watson played well again. He plays under control and let's the game come to him.

Baylor played well. He had a good all around game. Needs to shoot better.

Happy Walsh finally made some 3s. I still think he tries to do a little too much. He's role is like Bruce Bowen but he tries to be like Tatum. Focus on your defense and get better at shooting 3s. Work on making plays for others down the road.

House played well again.
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Post#1732 » by 24istheLAW » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:52 am

I must say, Tristan Enaruna's length BOTHERS players at this level. If there were FG% against stats for summer league it wouldn't surprise me if he were <50% alongside various centers. He was giving players fits when he contested their shots.


Now, he might be too useless at everything else to ever play a minute in the NBA. But of the players without a roster spot, that is what stood out to me the most.
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Post#1733 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:14 am

24istheLAW wrote:I must say, Tristan Enaruna's length BOTHERS players at this level. If there were FG% against stats for summer league it wouldn't surprise me if he were <50% alongside various centers. He was giving players fits when he contested their shots.


Now, he might be too useless at everything else to ever play a minute in the NBA. But of the players without a roster spot, that is what stood out to me the most.

He’s got a camp deal so I’d imagine he’s lined up for a G league affiliate deal in Maine at worst, unless somehow someone throws a two way at him.
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Post#1734 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:59 am

Hal14 wrote:No Harper Jr this game? Not gonna lie, it seems weird that we sat our guys out so much this summer league..

Peterson, Harper, JD, Ramsey are barely even in the league. Heck, Harper doesn't even have a contract beyond training camp..and Ramsey doesn't even have a training camp contract with anyone lol.

Peterson and JD just have a 2-way..

These guys should have all been in there every game..

Seems like they went with the guys that had the least experience. Not necessarily games on an NBA roster but just who has been out of college the least amount of time.

The rotation today had 2 years of experience post college total (1 for Peterson, 1 for Walsh) outside of two guys - Tillie, who hasn’t played competitively much in two years, and Cook who I like but is a bit fringey and also new to their system.

Ramsey and Harper et al aren’t clear roster guys but they’ve been around for multiple years so that seems like the dividing line they used for time today, for whatever reason beyond that idk.
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Re: Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas 

Post#1735 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:15 am

Didn't watch game live, my daughter's 12th birthday party. I liked that they pushed Scheierman, Peterson, et all, to fend for themselves without a PG or combo guard. It looked pretty ugly and Scheierman seems not very capable of one-on-one scoring at this stage but glad they put feet to the fire. I love the mental processing of both Watson and Scheierman, not super keen on the total energy package with both guys, but, not a fatal flaw. Very happy Enaruna got some shots up as well as a couple drives. Tillie got cooked a bit more than you'd like and forced it once or twice on offense, but still hope they can get him in Maine. Overall and in this game, the lack of a legit center beyond Queta was a challenge. Tillie is a PF only with his bulk.
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Post#1736 » by Parliament10 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:48 am

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Post#1737 » by shackles10 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:48 am

There’s nothing about House that makes me think he’s a better gamble as a project than JD, he’s just a new flavor for some of y’all. JD is also a year and a half younger so while I’m not thrilled with his progress looking like he’ll be helpful or not during our current window, I would expect even less from House.

Make it or break it year for Davison. If he can’t get some call ups and contribute at least a little I suspect we draft a new project pg next year and he’s taking one of the 2-way spots and not House. There’s also the outside possibility that Springer develops some playmaking ability (along with a more consistent outside shot like he showed on the 1 SL game) and he becomes our project pg freeing up JD’s 2-way for a totally different type of player.
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Post#1738 » by djFan71 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:56 am

shackles10 wrote:There’s nothing about House that makes me think he’s a better gamble as a project than JD, he’s just a new flavor for some of y’all. JD is also a year and a half younger so while I’m not thrilled with his progress looking like he’ll be helpful or not during our current window, I would expect even less from House.

Make it or break it year for Davison. If he can’t get some call ups and contribute at least a little I suspect we draft a new project pg next year and he’s taking one of the 2-way spots and not House. There’s also the outside possibility that Springer develops some playmaking ability (along with a more consistent outside shot like he showed on the 1 SL game) and he becomes our project pg freeing up JD’s 2-way for a totally different type of player.

Agreed. And I’m leaning heavily into that Springer possibility. I kinda expect it.
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Post#1739 » by Cuban Pete » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:24 am

Fierce1 wrote:
KamikazeK wrote:Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.

The cost of getting Walsh was very minimal and he was looked at as a project.

So there will be no alarm bells ringing if he doesn't pan out.


Walsh looks the same as he did a year ago. Watson is a better player IMO.
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Post#1740 » by Fierce1 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:02 am

Cuban Pete wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
KamikazeK wrote:Bad summer league team. Are we worried about jordan walsh yet? he might not be it unfortunately.

The cost of getting Walsh was very minimal and he was looked at as a project.

So there will be no alarm bells ringing if he doesn't pan out.


Walsh looks the same as he did a year ago. Watson is a better player IMO.

True.

Watson has a feel for the game.

Walsh is more athleticism than basketball player.

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