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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1001 » by NYKat » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:43 am

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Another attempt on Trumps life coming.

Trump will prevail through Christ….
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By who? Another 2nd amendment gun toting right winger?
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1002 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:43 am

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They're the first to break the news Biden's dropping out :o


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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1003 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:45 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:I would not be surprised if Biden dies very shortly. Harris Pres 47, Trump Pres 48.

Another attempt on Trumps life coming.

Trump will prevail through Christ. And likely become our 48th President.

Wow Steve has been prophesying all this as well:

https://youtu.be/cVW5qg0TDfs?si=OCOB6-xPayXRCMEX

Troy Black is also prophesying:

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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1004 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:48 am

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Stannis wrote:Mike Bloomberg wants to slam the brakes on Kamala-mania:

Dem donors who want to slow Harris nomination see few potential challengers

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-democrat-megadonors-nomination-election.html?__source=androidappshare


What an embarrassment

Hope Mike likes waking up with egg on his face instead of on his plate


Kamala just made over $60 million in 21 hours. Fuq Mike Bloomberg.


Per CNBC, that number is up to 250m.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html


Mike should go back to whatever hole he crawled out of
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1005 » by NYKat » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:51 am

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You were DEAD WRONG about Joe being too old when I had that take. Now my take is a fuggin fact! She wasn't a presidential candidate and she was given the position in a shyt show. Acting like JOE planned this? GTFOH with that BS take. He was forced out because he was going to lose! He didn't want to step down. HE HAD TO.

The DNC fugged things up and had to pull a switcheroo at the last possible minute. It isn't how candidates are chosen in the HISTORY of the country. Some people have an issue with that. She is being FORCED ON US! Wtf are you even talking about here? There was no real primary to speak of because they went the incumbent route. So people were basically forced to accept the Biden ticket because of that as well. Now Biden isn't even on the ticket! You like to distort reality to win an argument? Really? The DNC will be lucky if this works. I hope it does. I am all for her winning and I will vote for her. That doesn't excuse the way things went down. Not everyone who votes sucks the blue dick.


This is a really weird take from you. I mean… she’s the vice president, so she’s logically the next in line, and with the Dems calling an audible here, so close to the election, there’s really no time for a lengthy debate and infighting about who to go with.

Honestly, if the threat to democracy wasn’t so dire and the republicans were running even a reasonable candidate, Biden probably doesn’t even drop out, but stakes are crucial we all need to unify as a party fast for the sake of the election and the country.

Really interesting post. "The Dems calling an audible". "Biden probably doesn't even drop out.”

So ... so it's completely a tactical thing for you. Obama looks at the polling numbers and decides Harris will be better for further down the ballot and hey-presto the candidate changes.

Do you not see how bizarre that looks for a party that is complaining about existential threats to democracy?


Existential threat to democracy is a man who incited civilians to violence against the government because he lost an election and seeks to create autocratic conditions if re-elected not a Vice President taking up the election from a President who dropped out. Have some perspective.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1006 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:56 am

KnixinSix wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:I would not be surprised if Biden dies very shortly. Harris Pres 47, Trump Pres 48.

Another attempt on Trumps life coming.

Trump will prevail through Christ. And likely become our 48th President.

Wow Steve has been prophesying all this as well:

https://youtu.be/cVW5qg0TDfs?si=OCOB6-xPayXRCMEX

Troy Black is also prophesying:

https://youtu.be/wQ2tL06qmzw?si=FGIlsoWQUjhHuUuu


Pray and seek God for who he is because: Jesus is the way the truth and the life!


Matthew 25:35 wrote:I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.


Donald J. Trump wrote:“They let — I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country. When they do that, we got a lot of work to do. They’re poisoning the blood of our country,”


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Everything Christ spoke has Spiritual meaning since he is the revelation of the Father here on Earth as it is in Heaven.

He is speaking of being fed spiritually here.


Ephesians 3:14-21 NKJV

[14] For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, [16] that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, [17] that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— [19] to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. [20] Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, [21] to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

https://bible.com/bible/114/eph.3.14-21.NKJV

If you believe with your heart and confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord you will be saved.

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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1007 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:08 am

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Trump will prevail through Christ. And likely become our 48th President.



Trump prevails through lies.

So, if Trump prevails through Christ, does that mean Christ = lies?


I'd be careful making connections between the lord and the most dishonest president we've ever had. Just a suggestion.

I understand that many Christian voters love that Trump got Roe v. Wade overturned, and for that reason, many Christian voters vote republican for that same reason. But the simple truth is that Trump is a big fat liar and a criminal and he's the most unethical and self-serving president I've ever seen.

Do you disagree? Do you think Trump is honest and moral?
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1008 » by Kampuchea » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:11 am

Stannis wrote:Mike Bloomberg wants to slam the brakes on Kamala-mania:

Dem donors who want to slow Harris nomination see few potential challengers

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-democrat-megadonors-nomination-election.html?__source=androidappshare


Very interesting, seems only fair to allow the others a chance.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1009 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:13 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.


I understand you. You have every right to feel that way, this is the first time in modern history that I can recall a candidate dropping out so close to election day. But even you were saying that Joe lost a step...if we had a situation where multiple people were vying for the spot, it would have fractured the party and handed Trump the election.

For me, I voted for Biden and Harris in the primary. Biden stepped down. Any possible challengers have endorsed her. It is what it is, I am fine with it. I look at this as a continuance of the same administration I voted for in 2020 and the one I will vote for now. I also think Kamala will fight back against all this craziness coming from the GOP in Congress and the SCOTUS if she wins.

We're pressed for time and the wagons from all corners of the party including the Never Trump conservatives have circled around Kamala, to my pleasant surprise honestly. I understand you, but defeating MAGA and Trump is an all hands on deck situation. We need all Americans of sound mind and character to rebuke this garbage once and for all.

Let's kick Donald's bitch ass into a prison cell and call it a day brother.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1010 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:17 am

Kampuchea wrote:
Stannis wrote:Mike Bloomberg wants to slam the brakes on Kamala-mania:

Dem donors who want to slow Harris nomination see few potential challengers

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-democrat-megadonors-nomination-election.html?__source=androidappshare


Very interesting, seems only fair to allow the others a chance.


All potential challengers have endorsed Harris. That door closed quickly.

The party has opted not to fracture itself into pieces. The only person who benefits from a messy DNC convention is Donald Trump.

I think people know this and just want chaos so that Trump will win, tbh.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1011 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:18 am

Luv those Knicks wrote:
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Trump will prevail through Christ. And likely become our 48th President.



Trump prevails through lies.

So, if Trump prevails through Christ, does that mean Christ = lies?


I'd be careful making connections between the lord and the most dishonest president we've ever had. Just a suggestion.

I understand that many Christian voters love that Trump got Roe v. Wade overturned, and for that reason, many Christian voters vote republican for that same reason. But the simple truth is that Trump is a big fat liar and a criminal and he's the most unethical and self-serving president I've ever seen.

Do you disagree? Do you think Trump is honest and moral?


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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1012 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:21 am

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Refugee is a great song as well but, he has a bunch of great music.


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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1013 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:27 am

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This is a really weird take from you. I mean… she’s the vice president, so she’s logically the next in line, and with the Dems calling an audible here, so close to the election, there’s really no time for a lengthy debate and infighting about who to go with.

Honestly, if the threat to democracy wasn’t so dire and the republicans were running even a reasonable candidate, Biden probably doesn’t even drop out, but stakes are crucial we all need to unify as a party fast for the sake of the election and the country.

Really interesting post. "The Dems calling an audible". "Biden probably doesn't even drop out.”

So ... so it's completely a tactical thing for you. Obama looks at the polling numbers and decides Harris will be better for further down the ballot and hey-presto the candidate changes.

Do you not see how bizarre that looks for a party that is complaining about existential threats to democracy?


Existential threat to democracy is a man who incited civilians to violence against the government because he lost an election and seeks to create autocratic conditions if re-elected not a Vice President taking up the election from a President who dropped out. Have some perspective.


And? They had 4 years to plan to keep him from winning again. Now they have 105 days. You don't find anything wrong with that? Anyone with half a brain new this was coming. Biden has been slipping for more than the two weeks or so since the debate. I have been calling this for years and I got shyt for it. I was right. So that pisses me off even more.

People have a problem with how it was handled and rightfully so. Acting like this isn't insanely risky and possibly the biggest blunder in the history of politics is where he perspective needs to be focused. Even if she manages to win, the whole process has been a shyt show. From top to bottom.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1014 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:28 am

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I do not like her and I did not chose her and I don't want her. Fuq me and everyone else who feels the same huh? Seems fair. Should really inspire voter turnout.

You told me it's too late? Huh? You don't dictate how this works. I don't have to figure out this would work to justify my position either. That's just nonsense. The time constraints don't excuse a damn thing because they waited too long. Now they just back whoever they want? Good call. I am sure millions of people all agree with them that a person they didn't want the last time is the best choice. What could possibly go wrong?

I do not like how things went down. What is so difficult to comprehend? They picked our candidate without us. Period end of story. There was no primary. This is not how the democratic process works.

I now have to vote AGAIN for someone I do not want. I didn't want Hillary and she lost. I didn't want Biden last time and, I damn sure didn't want him to run again because I CALLED THIS YEARS AGO. Now I have to vote for Kamala. Good job Democrats. I really hope the Never Trump wave works to keep him out. I really hope Kamala does a MUCH BETTER job than she did last time when literally nobody wanted her.


You're right, but there's no guarantee you wouldn't have had to vote for someone you didn't like again, even if there had been a primary. It's not that uncommon to not like either candidate.

As for me, I'm easy. I know that laws get passed through congress and the president either says "yes or no" and there's some negotiation, some foreign policy and the occasional executive order, but mostly, there's not a huge difference a president can make. Certainly Dem vs Rep makes a difference, but a far left president wouldn't be able to do much that a center left president would decline to do. To me, the difference between President Biden and President Bernie is inches, not miles. There's be some things done differently, but not a huge amount of things. I would even argue that Biden was probably more successful in passing left stuff than Bernie would have been.

Now, I don't know if you're left, and that's not really the point. The point is, as long as it's a democrat in the oval office, I'm usually pretty happy. I didn't even mind Hillary. I thought for policy, she'd have been fine.

But you have every right to feel cheated out of a primary. Me personally, I couldn't care less. I'm so happy to have a person who I think has a pretty good shot at beating Trump in a few months. There might be some kind of joke here. . . . we're so happy that BIden is out that we don't even notice that we didn't get to vote for our candidate. Yes, and I noticed. I'm just so happy that Biden stepped down that I don't mind.

There is a chance that this all happened organically, and that there wasn't time to run a new primary and this was all an accident, or, there's a chance that Dems were playing 4D chess to sneak in a candidate without a primary, but there's no way to know, and, like my friend Beau said . . . if the Democrats are playing 4-D chess, then, this is the first time they've ever done it.

We may never know, but on the surface, everything that happened is believable.

I'm sorry you don't like Kamala and I know you're not alone. Right now, I **** love her. And, I'm not even saying she's my candidate. I hadn't really thought about it for 2024, and there wasn't a lot of coverage, but in 2020, I liked Pete and Amy Klobuchar and Liz Warren better than her. I might not have voted for her if there had been a primary but I'm still in love with her right now. I'd buy her flowers and kiss her feet if she asked me to right now. That's how happy I am with this turn of events.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1015 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:30 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:I think I’m rooting for Kamala to select Kentucky governor Andy Beschear as VP.


That is a good one. Mark Kelly and Josh Shapiro I'm also cool with. I'm starting to really warm up to the idea of Kelly.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1016 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:32 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I have to point out that I am NOT A FAN of this rush to hand the nomination to Harris. The time constraints are their own fault but, if people want to step up and vie for the position than there should be some consideration there. I do not like how any of this has transpired.

I didn't like her when she ran on any level. I do think they should slow it down as much as possible to give others a chance to speak up. The media and the party are not winning me over with the way they are going about this. I know for a fact that I am not alone in feeling this way. Just like I called it that Biden would not make it through a second term and was shot down by party liners.

That said, I will back her if this is the way it goes. 2028 is up for grabs IMO. Trump will be a horrible memory. The Republican party is going to have to reinvent itself by then if they hope to win ever again. Trump mania will die and the racist morons that support him will no longer have a voice when he is done. She just needs to win to make sure that happens. I am confident that she has a chance. It all depends on what she can do in the next 105 days if she in fact wins the race.


I understand you. You have every right to feel that way, this is the first time in modern history that I can recall a candidate dropping out so close to election day. But even you were saying that Joe lost a step...if we had a situation where multiple people were vying for the spot, it would have fractured the party and handed Trump the election.

For me, I voted for Biden and Harris in the primary. Biden stepped down. Any possible challengers have endorsed her. It is what it is, I am fine with it. I look at this as a continuance of the same administration I voted for in 2020 and the one I will vote for now. I also think Kamala will fight back against all this craziness coming from the GOP in Congress and the SCOTUS if she wins.

We're pressed for time and the wagons from all corners of the party including the Never Trump conservatives have circled around Kamala, to my pleasant surprise honestly. I understand you, but defeating MAGA and Trump is an all hands on deck situation. We need all Americans of sound mind and character to rebuke this garbage once and for all.

Let's kick Donald's bitch ass into a prison cell and call it a day brother.


Thank you. A voice of reason. I find it hilariously annoying that I couldn't have any criticism about how this all went down. Acting like this is normal procedure is ridiculous. Acting like it won't piss people off is just a lie. I know several people that are upset about this. I just hope this doesn't cost the election.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1017 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:35 am

KnixinSix wrote:
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Trump will prevail through Christ. And likely become our 48th President.



Trump prevails through lies.

So, if Trump prevails through Christ, does that mean Christ = lies?


I'd be careful making connections between the lord and the most dishonest president we've ever had. Just a suggestion.

I understand that many Christian voters love that Trump got Roe v. Wade overturned, and for that reason, many Christian voters vote republican for that same reason. But the simple truth is that Trump is a big fat liar and a criminal and he's the most unethical and self-serving president I've ever seen.

Do you disagree? Do you think Trump is honest and moral?


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Yes, and being a rapist is quite the shortcoming.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1018 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:36 am

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Luv those Knicks wrote:
Trump prevails through lies.

So, if Trump prevails through Christ, does that mean Christ = lies?


I'd be careful making connections between the lord and the most dishonest president we've ever had. Just a suggestion.

I understand that many Christian voters love that Trump got Roe v. Wade overturned, and for that reason, many Christian voters vote republican for that same reason. But the simple truth is that Trump is a big fat liar and a criminal and he's the most unethical and self-serving president I've ever seen.

Do you disagree? Do you think Trump is honest and moral?


Faith gives us the righteousness of Christ for we all fall short of the glory of God.


Yes, and being a rapist is quite the shortcoming.


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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1019 » by St Knick » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:43 am

I have an interesting thought experiment that just occurred to me.

(A) Would you rather Trump win now, and then be free and clear of him 2028 and onwards?
(B) or would you rather Harris* win now, but have another 4 years of Trump lurking, and running yet again in 2028?

I think the answer is A (everyone wants to win now), but if you truely believe Trump is the main problem (more so then conservative party/values/policies), would it be better to just rip the band-aid off and get it over with?

Not looking for derision, just a thought experiment.
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Re: OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race 

Post#1020 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:43 am

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I do not like her and I did not chose her and I don't want her. Fuq me and everyone else who feels the same huh? Seems fair. Should really inspire voter turnout.

You told me it's too late? Huh? You don't dictate how this works. I don't have to figure out this would work to justify my position either. That's just nonsense. The time constraints don't excuse a damn thing because they waited too long. Now they just back whoever they want? Good call. I am sure millions of people all agree with them that a person they didn't want the last time is the best choice. What could possibly go wrong?

I do not like how things went down. What is so difficult to comprehend? They picked our candidate without us. Period end of story. There was no primary. This is not how the democratic process works.

I now have to vote AGAIN for someone I do not want. I didn't want Hillary and she lost. I didn't want Biden last time and, I damn sure didn't want him to run again because I CALLED THIS YEARS AGO. Now I have to vote for Kamala. Good job Democrats. I really hope the Never Trump wave works to keep him out. I really hope Kamala does a MUCH BETTER job than she did last time when literally nobody wanted her.


You're right, but there's no guarantee you wouldn't have had to vote for someone you didn't like again, even if there had been a primary. It's not that uncommon to not like either candidate.

As for me, I'm easy. I know that laws get passed through congress and the president either says "yes or no" and there's some negotiation, some foreign policy and the occasional executive order, but mostly, there's not a huge difference a president can make. Certainly Dem vs Rep makes a difference, but a far left president wouldn't be able to do much that a center left president would decline to do. To me, the difference between President Biden and President Bernie is inches, not miles. There's be some things done differently, but not a huge amount of things. I would even argue that Biden was probably more successful in passing left stuff than Bernie would have been.

Now, I don't know if you're left, and that's not really the point. The point is, as long as it's a democrat in the oval office, I'm usually pretty happy. I didn't even mind Hillary. I thought for policy, she'd have been fine.

But you have every right to feel cheated out of a primary. Me personally, I couldn't care less. I'm so happy to have a person who I think has a pretty good shot at beating Trump in a few months. There might be some kind of joke here. . . . we're so happy that BIden is out that we don't even notice that we didn't get to vote for our candidate. Yes, and I noticed. I'm just so happy that Biden stepped down that I don't mind.

There is a chance that this all happened organically, and that there wasn't time to run a new primary and this was all an accident, or, there's a chance that Dems were playing 4D chess to sneak in a candidate without a primary, but there's no way to know, and, like my friend Beau said . . . if the Democrats are playing 4-D chess, then, this is the first time they've ever done it.

We may never know, but on the surface, everything that happened is believable.

I'm sorry you don't like Kamala and I know you're not alone. Right now, I **** love her. And, I'm not even saying she's my candidate. I hadn't really thought about it for 2024, and there wasn't a lot of coverage, but in 2020, I liked Pete and Amy Klobuchar and Liz Warren better than her. I might not have voted for her if there had been a primary but I'm still in love with her right now. I'd buy her flowers and kiss her feet if she asked me to right now. That's how happy I am with this turn of events.


It's not even about not liking the candidates but, for someone to suggest I'm crazy or stupid or I don't know how elections are run is ridiculous and ignorant.

They had plenty of time to find viable candidates and mount a strong defense against this madman. They tried to be cute and let a man pushing 82 years old run for office when he was CLEARLY losing steam the last year or more. Now we have all of this baggage to overcome to try and stop this lunatic. Plenty to be upset with.

My OP wasn't even that harsh. It felt like I was dealing with another cultist attitude just for speaking my mind when I made it abundantly clear that I am still voting for her no matter what happens. I only hope everyone else feels the same.
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