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Post#201 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:14 pm

tcheco wrote:I mentione the 2 as I saw his major minutes were played with Alvarado/CJ and Trey Murphy/ingram, but I guess Ingram played as a SG sometimes too, but I'd guess he could play more 3.

I'm a DD fan, not gonna lie, if Spurs are looking to put more veterans as Wemby, Castle and Sochan Keep developing, he could be worth it, as this roster can make up for his defensive shortcomings. That being said, I'd also like to see the Spurs sign/trade for a PG or SG, I have zero trust on Branham and Wesley ever ammounting to anything.

Tre/Castle
Vassel/Hield?
DD/Keldon/Champagnie
Sochan/DD
Wemby/Collins(hate him, get Jonas, don't care lol)


If Naji were on the Spurs, he would be asked to defend the Luka's of the world for sure, but I just see him more as a wing, than a SG, but to your point, he is versatile.

No to Hield. He is a bad defender and not consistent enough from 3 to justify playing him. I'd still rather give those minutes to Branham and Wesley and see if they can do anything in year 3, then settle on him. I also wish the Spurs hadn't extended Collins, but it's only for two seasons (expiring 2026) and perhaps he has a bounce back now that he knows he will be coming off the bench all season. As soon as they paid him he went into the tank. It's possible the pressure of living up to the contract got to him.
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Post#202 » by DwayneSchintzus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Castle at PG and Naji at SF.

Wemby-Sochan-Naji-Vassell-Castle would be a hell of a defensive lineup. Hopefully someone can make a three...
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Post#203 » by tcheco » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:46 pm

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tcheco wrote:I mentione the 2 as I saw his major minutes were played with Alvarado/CJ and Trey Murphy/ingram, but I guess Ingram played as a SG sometimes too, but I'd guess he could play more 3.

I'm a DD fan, not gonna lie, if Spurs are looking to put more veterans as Wemby, Castle and Sochan Keep developing, he could be worth it, as this roster can make up for his defensive shortcomings. That being said, I'd also like to see the Spurs sign/trade for a PG or SG, I have zero trust on Branham and Wesley ever ammounting to anything.

Tre/Castle
Vassel/Hield?
DD/Keldon/Champagnie
Sochan/DD
Wemby/Collins(hate him, get Jonas, don't care lol)


If Naji were on the Spurs, he would be asked to defend the Luka's of the world for sure, but I just see him more as a wing, than a SG, but to your point, he is versatile.

No to Hield. He is a bad defender and not consistent enough from 3 to justify playing him. I'd still rather give those minutes to Branham and Wesley and see if they can do anything in year 3, then settle on him. I also wish the Spurs hadn't extended Collins, but it's only for two seasons (expiring 2026) and perhaps he has a bounce back now that he knows he will be coming off the bench all season. As soon as they paid him he went into the tank. It's possible the pressure of living up to the contract got to him.


yeah, Hield is 2 years removed from being reliable.

Nunez drafted, guess the 1/2 is settle for the Spurs. Castle can play the 2 while he develops his playmaking?
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Post#204 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:48 pm

DwayneSchintzus wrote:Castle at PG and Naji at SF.

Wemby-Sochan-Naji-Vassell-Castle would be a hell of a defensive lineup. Hopefully someone can make a three...


They'd hold opponents to 95ppg and score 90ppg :lol:
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Post#205 » by tcheco » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:51 pm

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DwayneSchintzus wrote:Castle at PG and Naji at SF.

Wemby-Sochan-Naji-Vassell-Castle would be a hell of a defensive lineup. Hopefully someone can make a three...


They'd hold opponents to 95ppg and score 90ppg :lol:

Am i the only one whom doesn't trust Sochan?
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Post#206 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:11 pm

tcheco wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
DwayneSchintzus wrote:Castle at PG and Naji at SF.

Wemby-Sochan-Naji-Vassell-Castle would be a hell of a defensive lineup. Hopefully someone can make a three...


They'd hold opponents to 95ppg and score 90ppg :lol:

Am i the only one whom doesn't trust Sochan?

What about my post gave you the impression he was trusted? He's a big question mark at this point. He shows flashes but needs to put it together and that PG nonsense didn't do him any favors. But jury's still out, I think he can still become an impact player. He's barely turned 21 a month ago
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Post#207 » by Effigy » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:14 pm

tcheco wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
DwayneSchintzus wrote:Castle at PG and Naji at SF.

Wemby-Sochan-Naji-Vassell-Castle would be a hell of a defensive lineup. Hopefully someone can make a three...


They'd hold opponents to 95ppg and score 90ppg :lol:

Am i the only one whom doesn't trust Sochan?

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Post#208 » by tcheco » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:15 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
tcheco wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
They'd hold opponents to 95ppg and score 90ppg :lol:

Am i the only one whom doesn't trust Sochan?

What about my post gave you the impression he was trusted? He's a big question mark at this point. He shows flashes but needs to put it together and that PG nonsense didn't do him any favors. But jury's still out, I think he can still become an impact player. He's barely turned 21 a month ago


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Post#209 » by jkvonny » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:35 pm

tcheco wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
tcheco wrote:Am i the only one whom doesn't trust Sochan?

What about my post gave you the impression he was trusted? He's a big question mark at this point. He shows flashes but needs to put it together and that PG nonsense didn't do him any favors. But jury's still out, I think he can still become an impact player. He's barely turned 21 a month ago


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Post#210 » by tcheco » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:02 am

jkvonny wrote:
tcheco wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:What about my post gave you the impression he was trusted? He's a big question mark at this point. He shows flashes but needs to put it together and that PG nonsense didn't do him any favors. But jury's still out, I think he can still become an impact player. He's barely turned 21 a month ago


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Post#211 » by thinktank » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:07 am

Wingy wrote:I haven’t watched him play, so need to reserve all real judgements.

However, I absolutely hate his lower body on his shot. I shouldn’t, but I’m judging. Effectiveness is more important, but yeah…can’t stand the crazy flailing and inconsistency.


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Post#212 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:28 am

monopoman wrote:
HoopsterJones wrote:SAS playing 4D chess by already tanking for Cooper Flagg next draft to pair with Wemby.


They will have at best a 14% chance at him, the notion that the worst team in the NBA has a huge chance to get that #1 pick is absurd. It's like the guy that thinks that putting 10 grand on 26 black is a good bet.


Idon't think having rob dillingham or not will greatly affect SA's tanking odds the next few seasons. But, maybe, and as dillingham improves it will a bit. The issue I have is that chasing a 1/2 pick with 25% odds is some sort of foolish gamble seems silly to me.
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Post#213 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:38 pm

funkatron101 wrote:I don't think I've ever seen a trade like this.

This trade shocked me. "I'm shocked to discover gambling is going on here." Casablanca. :D
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Post#214 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:42 pm

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Effigy wrote:That's a crazy trade for the Spurs. They're going to wait SEVEN years to get some help for Wemby?!



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that 2031 pick will likely be top 5 as KAT, Gobert and Edwards will be long gone and they'll revert to being an NBA doormat organization. It also gives them a valuable asset to use in trades. Once again, Spurs playing Chess. Short-term it's excellent for the Wolves as it gives them a dynamic scorer to take the load off Edwards. Spurs have multiple picks in the 2nd round and this is a very deep draft of role players so they'll get contributors.

Yeah Tim Connelly has a track record of building doormats LMAO. Wolves are super young and talented. The swap and pick 6 and 7 years from now will be in the 20s if not 30s.
Those aren't valuable assets. Nobody is going to give you **** for picks that far out.
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Post#215 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:47 pm

Young gun 6 wrote:I don't think people understand how poorly rated this draft class is.

Dillingham would've been a pick 15-20 in most ordinary drafts..

Even if that's true, we're talking about a swap and a pick 6 and 7 years from now. Virtually worthless.
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Post#216 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:48 pm

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Effigy wrote:That's a crazy trade for the Spurs. They're going to wait SEVEN years to get some help for Wemby?!



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that 2031 pick will likely be top 5 as KAT, Gobert and Edwards will be long gone and they'll revert to being an NBA doormat organization. It also gives them a valuable asset to use in trades. Once again, Spurs playing Chess. Short-term it's excellent for the Wolves as it gives them a dynamic scorer to take the load off Edwards. Spurs have multiple picks in the 2nd round and this is a very deep draft of role players so they'll get contributors.

Yeah Tim Connelly has a track record of building doormats LMAO. Wolves are super young and talented. The swap and pick 6 and 7 years from now will be in the 20s if not 30s.
Those aren't valuable assets. Nobody is going to give you **** for picks that far out.


Ya it was a dumb gamble for a team like the Spurs who need to add as much good young talent as possible. If a contender like the Celtics made a trade like this, I'd understand.

I'd somewhat understand if they wanted to blatantly tank again for Flagg or someone else but then why go get Chris Paul and Barnes this offseason. Spurs could have just grabbed Edey to form their own twin towers again if they didn't like any other young talent at that spot.
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Post#217 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:50 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
that 2031 pick will likely be top 5 as KAT, Gobert and Edwards will be long gone and they'll revert to being an NBA doormat organization. It also gives them a valuable asset to use in trades. Once again, Spurs playing Chess. Short-term it's excellent for the Wolves as it gives them a dynamic scorer to take the load off Edwards. Spurs have multiple picks in the 2nd round and this is a very deep draft of role players so they'll get contributors.

Yeah Tim Connelly has a track record of building doormats LMAO. Wolves are super young and talented. The swap and pick 6 and 7 years from now will be in the 20s if not 30s.
Those aren't valuable assets. Nobody is going to give you **** for picks that far out.


Ya it was a dumb gamble for a team like the Spurs who need to add as much good young talent as possible. If a contender like the Celtics made a trade like this, I'd understand.

I'd somewhat understand if they wanted to blatantly tank again for Flagg or someone else but then why go get Chris Paul and Barnes this offseason. Spurs could have just grabbed Edey to form their own twin towers again if they didn't like any other young talent at that spot.

It's hilarious seeing people defend this trade. I've been following the NBA for 50 years and it's the worst trade I've ever seen.
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Post#218 » by basketballto » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:02 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Young gun 6 wrote:I don't think people understand how poorly rated this draft class is.

Dillingham would've been a pick 15-20 in most ordinary drafts..

Even if that's true, we're talking about a swap and a pick 6 and 7 years from now. Virtually worthless.


So every team should give away their pick in 31 because they are worthless? Lol. The team who pick up every pick would end up being the best team in history.
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Post#219 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:02 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Yeah Tim Connelly has a track record of building doormats LMAO. Wolves are super young and talented. The swap and pick 6 and 7 years from now will be in the 20s if not 30s.
Those aren't valuable assets. Nobody is going to give you **** for picks that far out.


Ya it was a dumb gamble for a team like the Spurs who need to add as much good young talent as possible. If a contender like the Celtics made a trade like this, I'd understand.

I'd somewhat understand if they wanted to blatantly tank again for Flagg or someone else but then why go get Chris Paul and Barnes this offseason. Spurs could have just grabbed Edey to form their own twin towers again if they didn't like any other young talent at that spot.

It's hilarious seeing people defend this trade. I've been following the NBA for 50 years and it's the worst trade I've ever seen.


I wouldn't say it's the worst trade ever but it's one of the most illogical trades in a long time. A rebuilding team that doesn't seem to want to rebuild around one of the best prospects of all time lol.
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Post#220 » by G R E Y » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:10 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Yeah Tim Connelly has a track record of building doormats LMAO. Wolves are super young and talented. The swap and pick 6 and 7 years from now will be in the 20s if not 30s.
Those aren't valuable assets. Nobody is going to give you **** for picks that far out.


Ya it was a dumb gamble for a team like the Spurs who need to add as much good young talent as possible. If a contender like the Celtics made a trade like this, I'd understand.

I'd somewhat understand if they wanted to blatantly tank again for Flagg or someone else but then why go get Chris Paul and Barnes this offseason. Spurs could have just grabbed Edey to form their own twin towers again if they didn't like any other young talent at that spot.

It's hilarious seeing people defend this trade. I've been following the NBA for 50 years and it's the worst trade I've ever seen.

Ever? LMAO ok.

We'll be fine without a tiny non D hot shooter who just took a steal and had two team mates run out in front of him and he slowed down to pull up a 3 instead.

If I can pin point the essence of why he would not fit with us, this might be it.

And if you can't consider why having unprotected picks when Wemby is in his prime with the cap restrictions already affecting current teams, them you aren't thinking long term enough. And that's fine by PATFO, too lol We'll just take those picks, thanks very much.

The reality is that we could not get the player we wanted at 8 and got an offer we did for it instead. RD was never going to be a Spur, so it's not like another team had to pry him out of our hands.

We selected this pick FOR Minnesota FO who traded for the 8th pick with their unprotected and swap offer. It could have been any other player available. That RD had a hot game (ignoring the woeful efficiency in a previous one) does not change this reality.

We have a TON of picks available. Let's stop pretending that Wemby's future happiness or success is somehow tied to us having or not having RD. And let's consider that choosing Castle was Wemby approved...
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