Shams: Spencer Dinwiddie to Dallas

[TimeisIllmatic]

Thought he'd play better with the Lakers coming back home but unfortunately just didn't work out. DAL is a good landing spot with familiarity already.

The Lakers made it not work by not making him a priority. Oh, well, he's in a better place with the Mavs.

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He had many opportunities to prove himself so not sure what you mean.

[Ballerhogger]

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[dirkules_41]

You mean Powell.

He's the weak link.

Should just cut him and re-hire him as an assistant coach. He's definitely the biggest waste of a roster spot along with Lawson and Omax but at least they still somewhat develop. Powell is in essence a glorified cheerleader but everyone loves him - as long as he doesn't touch the floor.

As a 10M salary first team center, he is rubbish

But as a 3rd center with only 4M salary, i will say ok, not too bad

I used to think that too but even as a third string center, there´s more impactful options.

[Darren]

I could almost see a Thybulle or Wiggins trade by the deadline. Hardy, OMax, Exum, Maxi, Powell and even Grimes could be on the way out if a piece coming back is significant. Hopefully with a stretch big as well.

[Dundalis]

Zero track record of Dinwiddie being an efficient offensive player

Are you specifically ignoring his actual production for the team he’s going to? 17 ppg on 46%FG, 40%3PT, 60%TS across 76 games sounds pretty damn efficient to me. Hardly “zero” track record. And for the “he’s old and fell off” crowd, his numbers with the Nets are essentially identical to his numbers with the Wizards pre Mavs. He did not just luck into shooting 6-8% above his career avgs over essentially a full season. Playing with in the Mavs system obviously enabled all his strengths. So what we’ve seen from Dinwiddie for the Nets and Lakers is exactly what he was before, and has just about always been, except when he plays for the Mavs. He’s literally exactly what the Mavs need to help prevent the offensive garbage they got trapped into in the NBA finals, where no one had a clue how to create anything on offense except Luka or Kyrie.

[Jody Smokz]

No he wasn't. Outside of 2-3 reg season games including the game where he defended Dame on the game winning attempt, he was pretty mediocre to bad and was AWFUL in the playoffs...

That's a net negative for the Lakers. He was fairly good for us in the minutes he played.

[queridiculo]

Talk about scraping the bottom of a barrel, Dinwiddie is absolute trash.

[picc]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

[dmakk]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

[Ballerhogger]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

The mavs have depth but lively will need show he can play at same level now that he’s known name

[kanofwindHK]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

The mavs have depth but lively will need show he can play at same level now that he’s known name

Lively is improving in every games, and I really want to see how good he can be in 2024/25 after the playoff experience learning

[kanofwindHK]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

Powell is only mavs 3rd or 4th center and only will see him in the garage time, I do not know why they need to worry about it

[picc]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

I'm not forgetting anything at all. I said if "ONE" of the bigs goes down, meaning one of Lively or Gafford, then Powell becomes the backup center. Like he was against the Wolves in those disastrous minutes he played when Lively went down in the WCF for a game. The one game in the series you lost, partly because Powell was utterly useless and a gigantic dropoff from Lively.

And no, Maxi Kleber also will not cut it as a backup center against Joker/AD/Towns and Gobert/Embiid/Porzingis/etc.

So again, having a serviceable backup C would be first priority if I was the Mavs, because they are one injury to Gaff or Lively away from their title hopes being drastically reduced.

[picc]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

Powell is only mavs 3rd or 4th center and only will see him in the garage time, I do not know why they need to worry about it

To avoid situations like game 4 of the 2024 WCF. That's why.

[canada_dry]

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[kanofwindHK]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

I'm not forgetting anything at all. I said if "ONE" of the bigs goes down, meaning one of Lively or Gafford, then Powell becomes the backup center. Like he was against the Wolves in those disastrous minutes he played when Lively went down in the WCF for a game. The one game in the series you lost, partly because Powell was utterly useless and a gigantic dropoff from Lively.

And no, Maxi Kleber also will not cut it as a backup center against Joker/AD/Towns and Gobert/Embiid/Porzingis/etc.

So again, having a serviceable backup C would be first priority if I was the Mavs, because they are one injury to Gaff or Lively away from their title hopes being drastically reduced.

if one of the big 3 of wolves injured, they also face the same problem
if Hartenstein or chet injured, OKC also face the same problem
if KP or AH injured, BOS also face the same problem
etc, etc

every team only have 15 player with limited salary, you cannot invest too much on the 3rd Center
Powell is terrible as 1st or 2nd center,
but as a 3rd, he is not too bad.I cannot say all, but he is already better than most of the nba team 3rd center.......

it is about resource allocation
if mavs still have assets, better upgrade on backup PF first rather than 3rd center

[picc]

if one of the big 3 of wolves injured, they also face the same problem
if Hartenstein or chet injured, OKC also face the same problem
if KP or AH injured, BOS also face the same problem
etc, etc

every team only have 15 player with limited salary, you cannot invest too much on the 3rd Center
Powell is terrible as 1st or 2nd center,
but as a 3rd, he is not too bad.I cannot say all, but he is already better than most of the nba team 3rd center.......

it is about resource allocation
if mavs still have assets, better upgrade on backup PF first rather than 3rd center

Sure.

[kanofwindHK]

No he wasn't. Outside of 2-3 reg season games including the game where he defended Dame on the game winning attempt, he was pretty mediocre to bad and was AWFUL in the playoffs...

That's a net negative for the Lakers. He was fairly good for us in the minutes he played.

if dinwiddie can play at the same level he was in mavs time, then it will be a big win
if he just same as the one in Lakers, nevermind, just bench or even waive him,

just a vet min player only
low risk high reward investment

[Wagonband]

Its obvious the Mavs are trying to fill the team with players who can create and pass and shoot the 3 after what happened in the finals.

What I don't get is how they are still allowing Dwight Powell to be the backup center. Every minute that guy plays in a net negative for Dallas. If one of the bigs goes down, and they're forced to play him, that's the end of their title contention.

Maybe they are stockpiling all these guards for a trade down the line for a serviceable backup big.

Uhh, I'm going to assume you forgot the Mavs traded for Daniel Gafford, and that Powell is now at best 3rd string, and likely 4th string because Kleber plays small ball 5. The Mavs are set for the moment, and if 4th string center is their biggest concern, they're in a great spot. This has been the best Mavs roster to start the season since Kidd/Nico arrived.

I'm not forgetting anything at all. I said if "ONE" of the bigs goes down, meaning one of Lively or Gafford, then Powell becomes the backup center. Like he was against the Wolves in those disastrous minutes he played when Lively went down in the WCF for a game. The one game in the series you lost, partly because Powell was utterly useless and a gigantic dropoff from Lively.

And no, Maxi Kleber also will not cut it as a backup center against Joker/AD/Towns and Gobert/Embiid/Porzingis/etc.

So again, having a serviceable backup C would be first priority if I was the Mavs, because they are one injury to Gaff or Lively away from their title hopes being drastically reduced.

What are you talking about. So you are saying that the Mavs THIRD/FORTH center is where they should focus getting better? There is such a thing as salary cap and a limited number of good players in the NBA. If they are healthy Powell doesn't play a minute. If 1 of their big goes down, and the others are healthy, he plays 5 minutes at most.

It makes no sense to focus on that, especially since teams can even play small without any big at all. Given how balanced the league is, there is no reason to believe the Mavs will face all or any of the teams you mentioned in the playoffs

[picc]

What are you talking about. So you are saying that the Mavs THIRD/FORTH center is where they should focus getting better? There is such a thing as salary cap and a limited number of good players in the NBA. If they are healthy Powell doesn't play a minute. If 1 of their big goes down, and the others are healthy, he plays 5 minutes at most.

Yes. Precisely.

Instead of stockpiling 18 backcourt players who there are literally not enough minutes in game for and some of which will be living in DNP-CD land, they should have used one of those roster spots on (or traded for) a backup center who is an actual NBA caliber player and not the breathing trainwreck that is Dwight Powell.

They’d still have a full rotation of guards/forwards, minus one who wont be playing much anyway. Doesnt have to be a good big. Even an average backup C would be better than Powell, who should not be on an NBA roster at all and is only still because he’s besties with Mark Cuban.

Part of preparation is contingency, and avoiding a situation where one of the bigs goes down and the remaining bench options are both undersized (Powell/Kleber) and/or woefully inept (Powell) could be the difference in losing or winning a close playoff series against tough and big teams.

Get it now?

It makes no sense to focus on that, especially since teams can even play small without any big at all. Given how balanced the league is, there is no reason to believe the Mavs will face all or any of the teams you mentioned in the playoffs

It makes perfect sense. Much more than your pipe fantasy scenario where the Mavs don’t see playoff teams in the playoffs.