Per +/-, no superstar let down by teammates more than Embiid

[Arsenal]

In playoff games where they go +10 or better, LeBron, KD, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic are a combined 247-0.

Also, Curry is 68-2, Luka 16-1, and Booker is 14-1.

Meanwhile, in 24 such games Embiid is only 19-5.

Apparently this mind-blowing stat came from Drew Hanlen - here is the Sixers reddit thread here where I found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1ebxctd/crazy_stat_in_playoff_games_where_they_go_10_or/

This is statistical PROOF that Embiid has had absolute TRASH around him. So if you're trying to find a "loser", it would be Josh Harris.

[Arsenal]

The 2nd comment to that thread sums it up nicely:

"This is more than "team bad," it's a historical level of a team letting a superstar down.

When his contemporaries go 345-4 in similar situations, and one guy goes 19-5, it's a statistically significant level of suck. It's an example of Embiid doing more, factoring both ends, than any player in the NBA. It's also an illustration of how bad we've built around him, and that our talent level has simply not been good enough even though Joel masks most of the problem."

[eyeatoma]

You should post this on the GB.

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[Arsenal]

You should post this on the GB.

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[eyeatoma]

You should post this on the GB.

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[mjkvol]

You should post this on the GB.

For what possible rational reason?

Sorry, rational is the wrong word when discussing an internet sewer.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Joel produces in playoffs I can't argue with that he takes a ton of blame because he ain't winning and it gets ugly for him out there with no help. He is the best player and scapegoat.. so he's under a microscope.

[mjkvol]

In playoff games where they go +10 or better, LeBron, KD, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic are a combined 247-0.

Also, Curry is 68-2, Luka 16-1, and Booker is 14-1.

Meanwhile, in 24 such games Embiid is only 19-5.

Apparently this mind-blowing stat came from Drew Hanlen - here is the Sixers reddit thread here where I found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1ebxctd/crazy_stat_in_playoff_games_where_they_go_10_or/

This is statistical PROOF that Embiid has had absolute TRASH around him. So if you're trying to find a "loser", it would be Josh Harris.

The real loser is Adam Silver, the slithery POS snake who forced Hinkie out and began a series of awful hiring mistakes, both management and coaching, until sanity finally prevailed with the Morey signing.

With the team that has been built around him this year, Embiid has a chance to reverse all the negative numbers and the entire narrative around the Sixers. Get in shape and get it done.

[FlyingArrow]

In playoff games where they go +10 or better, LeBron, KD, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic are a combined 247-0.

Also, Curry is 68-2, Luka 16-1, and Booker is 14-1.

Meanwhile, in 24 such games Embiid is only 19-5.

Apparently this mind-blowing stat came from Drew Hanlen - here is the Sixers reddit thread here where I found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1ebxctd/crazy_stat_in_playoff_games_where_they_go_10_or/

This is statistical PROOF that Embiid has had absolute TRASH around him. So if you're trying to find a "loser", it would be Josh Harris.

The real loser is Adam Silver, the slithery POS snake who forced Hinkie out and began a series of awful hiring mistakes, both management and coaching, until sanity finally prevailed with the Morey signing.

With the team that has been built around him this year, Embiid has a chance to reverse all the negative numbers and the entire narrative around the Sixers. Get in shape and get it done.

Adam Silver isn't a loser. He "won". His goal was to punish the Sixers for tanking, and he did. And as a result of that nobody in the NBA tanks anymore. What a wonderful outcome.

[Arsenal]

In playoff games where they go +10 or better, LeBron, KD, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic are a combined 247-0.

Also, Curry is 68-2, Luka 16-1, and Booker is 14-1.

Meanwhile, in 24 such games Embiid is only 19-5.

Apparently this mind-blowing stat came from Drew Hanlen - here is the Sixers reddit thread here where I found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1ebxctd/crazy_stat_in_playoff_games_where_they_go_10_or/

This is statistical PROOF that Embiid has had absolute TRASH around him. So if you're trying to find a "loser", it would be Josh Harris.

The real loser is Adam Silver, the slithery POS snake who forced Hinkie out and began a series of awful hiring mistakes, both management and coaching, until sanity finally prevailed with the Morey signing.

With the team that has been built around him this year, Embiid has a chance to reverse all the negative numbers and the entire narrative around the Sixers. Get in shape and get it done.

Adam Silver isn't a loser. He "won". His goal was to punish the Sixers for tanking, and he did. And as a result of that nobody in the NBA tanks anymore. What a wonderful outcome.

Exactly. Nosferatu won by torpedoing "The Process", but as is usually the case, the long-term effects weren't to his expectation. Such is the case with most reactionary moves. no understanding of 2nd and 3rd order effects.

[Stanford]

You should post this on the GB.

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No

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Yeah I wouldn't post this on GB. Let it go. They're just a bunch a a$$holes over there anyway.

The bottom line is a lot of people blame Joel for everything and that simply isn't the case. Tobias Harris (aside from the first round up until this season) has always been a complete zero in the playoffs once the games got tough. James Harden was hit or miss for us, but not completely devoid of blame because he did ghost in the two most important games this franchise has seen in this era. We're all well aware of Ben Simmons cryogenically freezing himself out of the Atlanta series. A playoff atmosphere is a tough one and you need guys that are going to show up in those moments. You can't expect Embiid to carry this entire team. With that being said, he needs to do better in the postseason. Anyone saying otherwise isn't watching the games. Tyrese Maxey threw him a life raft in game five against the Knicks this past spring. Had Maxey not rescued us, we would still be talking about an all time epic choke job on the part of Embiid. I mean C'mon...Embiid had how many turnovers in that game? It was the same thing each and every time they gave him the ball. He's got to do better. I think Paul George helps with that big time (in theory) because it takes the pressure off of Embiid to create in the halfcourt. The solution has been simple for defenses. Blitz Embiid and force him to give it up, and then hound Maxey whenever he gets the ball. NOBODY else wanted the ball in the NY series, and only Kelly Oubre remained unafraid of the moment. His shots just weren't falling. Like I said, in theory we've replaced Tobias Harris with Paul George. That should...Take a lot of pressure off of Joel and allow him to find a better flow in a postseason setting.

Joel Embiids time here is eerily similar to what Charles Barkley was forced to deal with after Doc, Moses, and Mo moved on. Now those guys were before my time, but I do know that this was firmly his team by the time the 90s rolled around. By that time, he had very little help and was forced to be Superman on any night we were expected to win. We actually did the same thing with Allen Iverson during his prime years here. I guess it's just the Philly way. The only time we ever really saw this team with top to bottom depth was when Doug was coaching here. Unfortunately, we were nothing more than a team full of role players starving for a star player. I hope this time around things are different. On paper, this is all starting to look really good. Health, conditioning, durability...Those are going to be our biggest obstacles.

[AI_Efficiency]

I’ll never forget embiid playing almost every minute of game 7 vs Toronto and in the 1 minute he didn’t at the end of the half, Greg Monroe needlessly fouls Lowry for a 3 point play. Was awful. Also, most people, even non Sixers fans, realize Embiid is a good player. They don’t like him because of the foul baiting, arguably cheap shots he’s had on players, and the whining / off the court stuff. His supporting cast hasn’t been great, but no one could have known Fultz would forget to shoot or Simmons would never develop. He needs to just keep his head down and let his play shut people up. He has the best supporting cast he’s had in years, so if ever there was a time it’s now.

[Slacktard]

In playoff games where they go +10 or better, LeBron, KD, Tatum, Giannis and Jokic are a combined 247-0.

Also, Curry is 68-2, Luka 16-1, and Booker is 14-1.

Meanwhile, in 24 such games Embiid is only 19-5.

Apparently this mind-blowing stat came from Drew Hanlen - here is the Sixers reddit thread here where I found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/1ebxctd/crazy_stat_in_playoff_games_where_they_go_10_or/

This is statistical PROOF that Embiid has had absolute TRASH around him. So if you're trying to find a "loser", it would be Josh Harris.

The real loser is Adam Silver, the slithery POS snake who forced Hinkie out and began a series of awful hiring mistakes, both management and coaching, until sanity finally prevailed with the Morey signing.

With the team that has been built around him this year, Embiid has a chance to reverse all the negative numbers and the entire narrative around the Sixers. Get in shape and get it done.

Let's also not forget it was David Stern who convinced Michael Rubin to join the Sixers ownership group and be the NBA league offices 'inside man' in order to convince Josh Harris to follow their directions.

[76ciology]

You should post this on the GB.

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You should have a masterclass here for users who wants to post pro-Sixers stuff in GB.

For me, do AB testing in this board first. If the board thinks it can pass, you then can go to GB.

If the board thinks its too crazy, dont even try.

[76ciology]

Jokic’s back-up is DeAndre Jordan, who interestingly shares the same manager as him.

[Kolkmania]

While I don't think you can deny Embiid's greatness, I do think he's been a central piece in some late game collapses. His inability to make sound decisions with the ball when pressure rises has prevented us from stabilizing leads. Not sure if we have any data to see Embiid's +/- in the final 5 minutes of the game compared to the first 43?

[seventy6ers]

While I don't think you can deny Embiid's greatness, I do think he's been a central piece in some late game collapses. His inability to make sound decisions with the ball when pressure rises has prevented us from stabilizing leads. Not sure if we have any data to see Embiid's +/- in the final 5 minutes of the game compared to the first 43?

I agree that we have seen many times where Embiid gets tired and struggles at the end of the game. It's almost like he is trying to do too much. I definitely think that his turnovers increase in the final 5 minutes, and the +/- would show that.

[youngcrev]

You should post this on the GB.

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Woke nazi GB mods have banned me - can you believe it, a progressive icon like me?

Feel free to bring the fire to those idiots and morons yourself.

Jesus Christ, you gotta be a real p.o.s. for the mods to do anything on that board, and you managed to get banned?

And no, this shouldn't be posted on the GB because it's just inviting Embiid to get roasted more

[Stanford]

I'm banned on the GB lol