Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

[Chanel Bomber]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

[spree2kawhi]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

This. He may even impact winning when dialed in, as another poster suggests, but he’s no world beater. Better than Mitch, I‘d say, but also more expensive.

I want to be clear, he’s a fairly good player and he’d be cool to have, but I doubt that he can be efficient in a way that’s not expressed by numbers.

[spree2kawhi]

has kat ever had a playoff run like this where he was elite defensively? yet alone even average on defense?

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Didn’t you see with your own eyes that Towns is a very capable defender against heavy bigs? He’ll guard Embiid, Jokic, KP and Horford, Turner, Adebayo etc effectively and give them fits on offense, stretch the floor for Brunson, move the ball efficiently, won’t pound the ball or act like he’s LeBron’s second coming. We need that.

It’s beyond me how people cannot see that and talk like he wouldn’t add incredibly important aspects that we have been lacking specifically during our last playoff run. It’s all a stupid narrative. He solves what we‘re bad at. Unlike Randle, this one particular player does that. Ayton, I will admit, opens up the floor too, and I’d like him guarding bigger centers too. I’m down with that, but KAT is on a whole different level.

[spree2kawhi]

Towns + Kessler

or

Randle + Ayton?

I like both ideas tbh…

[KnixinSix]

Towns + Kessler

or

Randle + Ayton?

I like both ideas tbh…

Ayton salary is not easy to replicate without including Randle. Also why our assets apart from Randle I don't know if it's enough.

Mitch, McBride, Achiuwa, Jefferies, Dadiet, Wash and Det FRPs

Don't even know if Achiuwa can be aggregated if it's a S&T

[KnixinSix]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

[R-DAWG]

No interest in Capela?

I think he’s interesting.

No way to acquire his salary. Although I could see him being a target with the taxpayer MLE next summer.

It really is starting to feel like we are going into the season with Robinson, Precious and Sims as the center rotation. It’s really hard to find another path forward with our limited ability to take on salary and our limited asset pool.

Duce + 2 protected 1’s, a handful of 2nds (nothing great) is basically all we have.

[Kampuchea]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

We need KAT and his team friendly contract here already

[spree2kawhi]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

It clearly is.

[spree2kawhi]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

We need KAT and his team friendly contract here already

Well, he’ll be the much better player at the same amount.

[spree2kawhi]

No interest in Capela?

I think he’s interesting.

No way to acquire his salary. Although I could see him being a target with the taxpayer MLE next summer.

It really is starting to feel like we are going into the season with Robinson, Precious and Sims as the center rotation. It’s really hard to find another path forward with our limited ability to take on salary and our limited asset pool.

Duce + 2 protected 1’s, a handful of 2nds (nothing great) is basically all we have.

I’m hoping for more. We do have three interesting expendable players on different salary levels in Randle, Robinson and McBride plus a handful of picks - don’t discount the value of second-rounders altogether. We should be able to find an upgrade somehow. I love Achiuwa… as a third stringer.

[StlHawksFan]

Next off-season we'd have a chance at bringing in one of those high priced guys with a Randle S&T. But impossible this year without gutting our team.

[Juco24]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

We need KAT and his team friendly contract here already

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone say KAT is on a team friendly contract. FOR YEARS, people have said "Don't want KATs MONSTROUS contract". Interesting

[louisorr]

Go get Boba Fett

also, what does it matter what Ayton's stats were in 2021. That's a lifetime ago. I mean Taj Gibson was a baller in '21
also also, KAT sucks, wears size 20 clown shoes and has torn menisusees
also also also...we just paid OG like a superstar not because of his sweet jumper, but because we expect him to defend anyone on the court...he can defend centers, we will collect the mismatch on the other end

[aggo]

Go get Lonzo

[aggo]

Towns + Kessler

or

Randle + Ayton?

I like both ideas tbh…

Randle Ayton is not a winning combo. Ever.

[KnixinSix]

Is KAT our best play if Randle doesn't want a team workable contract? It might be.

We need KAT and his team friendly contract here already

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone say KAT is on a team friendly contract. FOR YEARS, people have said "Don't want KATs MONSTROUS contract". Interesting

KATs contract is not team friendly by any stretch. However with that said, his contract might be smaller and shorter in length than what Randles contract demands will be.

We so often with this front office have heard ahead of time on the guys who have signed team friendly deals to stay here. Latest was we heard Brunson a week or more before his extension eligibility that he was likely going to take a team friendly deal. Then we heard the same from Bridges camp who isn't even eligible for a while.

Not a PEEP on Randle considering an extension. In fact the Begley comments from a few weeks ago, made it sound like nothing was imminent for an extension at all.

Could be wrong, but just don't see them letting him play it out and then potentially losing him for almost nothing in the offseason (like the Clippers with PG).

KAT certainly ain't perfect but with one of.the best big men coaches now in the fold and with his encouraging defensive play this year and most of the playoffs, I think he could be a better player and fit than Randle was.

I like Randle a lot though but 4 years of KAT to me on a locked in roster (which it seems Aller /Rose are tyring to do) is much better than 1 year of Randle and then lose him for nothing.

[sol537]

We need KAT and his team friendly contract here already

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone say KAT is on a team friendly contract. FOR YEARS, people have said "Don't want KATs MONSTROUS contract". Interesting

KATs contract is not team friendly by any stretch. However with that said, his contract might be smaller and shorter in length than what Randles contract demands will be.

We so often with this front office have heard ahead of time on the guys who have signed team friendly deals to stay here. Latest was we heard Brunson a week or more before his extension eligibility that he was likely going to take a team friendly deal. Then we heard the same from Bridges camp who isn't even eligible for a while.

Not a PEEP on Randle considering an extension. In fact the Begley comments from a few weeks ago, made it sound like nothing was imminent for an extension at all.

Could be wrong, but just don't see them letting him play it out and then potentially losing him for almost nothing in the offseason (like the Clippers with PG).

KAT certainly ain't perfect but with one of.the best big men coaches now in the fold and with his encouraging defensive play this year and most of the playoffs, I think he could be a better player and fit than Randle was.

I like Randle a lot though but 4 years of KAT to me on a locked in roster (which it seems Aller /Rose are tyring to do) is much better than 1 year of Randle and then lose him for nothing.

Let's see what happens on August 3rd... If Randle's not willing to play ball, then I could see that trade happening before or during the season. We may want to see how he fits with this squad for extended stretches...

[spree2kawhi]

Towns + Kessler

or

Randle + Ayton?

I like both ideas tbh…

Randle Ayton is not a winning combo. Ever.

I agree.

[Meat]

Ayton stopped playing defense once he got his second contract, which happened to be his definition of success in a pre-draft interview.

He's talented but he's a walking red flag.

eh so did bridges