Around the League - Beasley Boogies to Detroit

[RRyder823]

Shaq was a more dominant player than Embid and its not really close.

2000 onward is the criteria that needs to be pointed out again.

Shaq won four rings in that period. Embiid hasn't won ****. It's not like embiid really has a ton of numbers either.
Shaq had a MVP and top 3 in MVP shares in 3 other seasons. Idk if I'm picking a team and knowing I'm only getting 4 years of prime Shaq plus another solid 3 years, in taking that over a dozen of embiid

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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[chonestown]

2000 onward is the criteria that needs to be pointed out again.

Shaq won four rings in that period. Embiid hasn't won ****. It's not like embiid really has a ton of numbers either.
Shaq had a MVP and top 3 in MVP shares in 3 other seasons. Idk if I'm picking a team and knowing I'm only getting 4 years of prime Shaq plus another solid 3 years, in taking that over a dozen of embiid

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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Prime Shaq was is split more heavily on the pre-2000 to 2000-onward.

Yes, Prime Shaq was the most dominant force I've seen. Just largely happened in the 20th century.

MCOTR posits that the brief high-Shaq period 2000 onward outweighs Embiid's sustained high-level production. Can't deny that Embiid has been a post-season turkey. That's where the argument lies.

Christ, I unknowingly created a pre-taped in call show post. Not recommended.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Shaq won four rings in that period. Embiid hasn't won ****. It's not like embiid really has a ton of numbers either.
Shaq had a MVP and top 3 in MVP shares in 3 other seasons. Idk if I'm picking a team and knowing I'm only getting 4 years of prime Shaq plus another solid 3 years, in taking that over a dozen of embiid

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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Prime Shaq was is split more heavily on the pre-2000 to 2000-onward.

Yes, Prime Shaq was the most dominant force I've seen. Just largely happened in the 20th century.

MCOTR posits that the brief high-Shaq period 2000 onward outweighs Embiid's sustained high-level production. Can't deny that Embiid has been a post-season turkey. That's where the argument lies.

Christ, I unknowingly created a pre-taped in call show post. Not recommended.

But embiid really hasn't had sustained high-level production. He really only has 4.5 elite years. 5 all NBA teams and only 1 first. Shaq had 8 -7 first team- all nbas in the 2000s I think it's arguable that shaq matched him on regular season success considering embiid only has played 433 before factoring in post-season which makes it not even close.

[chonestown]

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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Prime Shaq was is split more heavily on the pre-2000 to 2000-onward.

Yes, Prime Shaq was the most dominant force I've seen. Just largely happened in the 20th century.

MCOTR posits that the brief high-Shaq period 2000 onward outweighs Embiid's sustained high-level production. Can't deny that Embiid has been a post-season turkey. That's where the argument lies.

Christ, I unknowingly created a pre-taped in call show post. Not recommended.

But embiid really hasn't had sustained high-level production. He really only has 4.5 elite years. 5 all NBA teams and only 1 first. Shaq had 8 -7 first team- all nbas in the 2000s I think it's arguable that shaq matched him on regular season success considering embiid only has played 433 before factoring in post-season which makes it not even close.

All this did was make me mad that Tim Duncan continues to be listed as a F.

ETA: Legit surprised Shaq had that run, so this is a very much "I was unfamiliar with your game..."

[RRyder823]

Shaq won four rings in that period. Embiid hasn't won ****. It's not like embiid really has a ton of numbers either.
Shaq had a MVP and top 3 in MVP shares in 3 other seasons. Idk if I'm picking a team and knowing I'm only getting 4 years of prime Shaq plus another solid 3 years, in taking that over a dozen of embiid

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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Prime Shaq was is split more heavily on the pre-2000 to 2000-onward.

Yes, Prime Shaq was the most dominant force I've seen. Just largely happened in the 20th century.

MCOTR posits that the brief high-Shaq period 2000 onward outweighs Embiid's sustained high-level production. Can't deny that Embiid has been a post-season turkey. That's where the argument lies.

Christ, I unknowingly created a pre-taped in call show post. Not recommended.

He won an MVP and 4 championships with 5 Finals appearances in 2000's (3 of those championships were in the prime years)





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[chonestown]

Yep. I'll even take it a step further. Prime Shaq was the most dominate force I've ever seen in the NBA (and that includes Jordan)

It may have only been for like 4 years but those 4 years trump Embiids career to this point by a **** lot

It's god damn criminal he didn't win more MVPs

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Prime Shaq was is split more heavily on the pre-2000 to 2000-onward.

Yes, Prime Shaq was the most dominant force I've seen. Just largely happened in the 20th century.

MCOTR posits that the brief high-Shaq period 2000 onward outweighs Embiid's sustained high-level production. Can't deny that Embiid has been a post-season turkey. That's where the argument lies.

Christ, I unknowingly created a pre-taped in call show post. Not recommended.

He won an MVP and 4 championships with 5 Finals appearances in 2000's (3 of those championships were in the prime years)

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The point has literally been made in the post you're quoting.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yeah as someone who's always hated the Lakers, Shaq in those prime years was just 'unfair', it seemed like he could just bully anyone at anytime.

Peak LeBron was the closest to him IMO from a physical, 'how the **** are you supposed to stop this' perspective.

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[Perishable517]

One more ring is going to do wonders for Giannis’ legacy. All this stupid talk will just be dust in the wind.

Or beating Team USA in the Olympics

I would pull for Greece sooo hard!

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[paulpressey25]

Gambo says Tyus Jones may sign for the minimum with the Suns. That would be a catch for them.

[Matches Malone]

Gambo says Tyus Jones may sign for the minimum with the Suns. That would be a catch for them.

They already did

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[paulpressey25]

Gambo says Tyus Jones may sign for the minimum with the Suns. That would be a catch for them.

They already did

That’s what I get for reading the for you tab with old tweets. Budenholzer doing the work.

[Beorn]

Should the Bucks do their diligence on EJ Lidell? Can he play at all, after his injury?

[Licensed to Il]

Whatever the criteria is, Shaq was an incredibly more impactful player than Embiid.

[chonestown]

The criteria is FT shooting percentages.

Case clothed.

[drew881]

Shaq was good

[ReasonablySober]

Shaq was good

[Licensed to Il]

A few thoughts on this silly espn list:

- Shaq got old and did stupid commercials, but from 96 to 2002 he was a top 3 player and a threat to win the title every year. Was still elite at his position till around 05. Embiid doesn't scare anyone but the team orthopedoc surgeon.

- Im the biggest KG fan there is. He pioneered: unconventional paths to the nba, a big that could shut down pick and rolls, a seven footer that you could run offense through, and an intense player on both ends that was insanely loyal to his organization. What is nuts.. is that Giannis is more of those things in all of those categories.

- Dirk is awesome but was never a top 3 guy

- Duncan is getting crapped on here

[yb90]

Speaking of Duncan: Maybe I'm wrong but I do not remember him getting any flack for being a poor ft shooter but as it stands now his ft% is slightly below where Giannis is right now.

[emunney]

Speaking of Duncan: Maybe I'm wrong but I do not remember him getting any flack for being a poor ft shooter but as it stands now his ft% is slightly below where Giannis is right now.

They can only crap on one superstar who isn't a good shooter at a time, and since Tim was a better shooter than Shaq, he got a pass.

Probably more importantly, there wasn't the same emphasis on shooting then as there is now.

[DingleJerry]

KD went on a twitter rant today about how the best basketball is to play "random". I trust many from here actively mocking him for it?