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Giants of Africa - Managing Director

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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#121 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:19 am

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I dunno, she did a good job dealing with Trump’s temper tantrums and trade wars with Canada. Also working with the US and Mexico when that orange a$$wipe tore up NAFTA to stir up more nonsense. That pivot to finance minister was frankly seen as well deserved. But if you have an axe to grind with Trudeau, you’re probably going to overlook those instances regardless.

In any event, PP is going to be the next PM, just don’t talk about resumes and work history being important here after looking at his.


We will cross that bridge when we get to it. The entire point is unqualified people are in the most influential positions in our country - we should employ / appoint people based entirely on meritocracy


Meritocracy goes beyond degrees.


Who is the judge? What criteria to judge qualification, if not by amount of study (degree) and work experience in the field (finance)?
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#122 » by Merit » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:49 am

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We will cross that bridge when we get to it. The entire point is unqualified people are in the most influential positions in our country - we should employ / appoint people based entirely on meritocracy


Meritocracy goes beyond degrees.


Who is the judge? What criteria to judge qualification, if not by amount of study (degree) and work experience in the field (finance)?


Good question. Do you have the job description? It would probably help both of us.

Are there characteristics that would make a person a better leader than others? A better employee than others? Are they the same for all positions?

Also - how do you know you can do a job you’ve never done before you’ve done it? Why are only some people CEO’s? Do CEO’s have a background in all aspects of a company? Or do they have a team?

Have you hired before? I’m guessing you have. What made you choose one candidate over the other? Was it only their degree and experience or did other things factor in?

Regardless of my position - I see your point. Since this is a high profile position, there were probably others who had more qualifications who also applied. I get where you’re coming from. It is one way to look at it that’s probably right in many cases. Sadly, people’s amazing skills and qualifications are overlooked for inferior candidates (nepotism/fit/compliance) all the time. It’s happened to me before and I hated it. You could very well be right in this case. Neither of us can know for certain.

The difference is - I don’t care if I’m right. It’s not about being “right”. There are many paths that could potentially be successful. We just have to choose one and then work with the choice we’ve made.

For me this is an exploration of perception and a means to learn how people outside my circle and silo of thinking see the world. For that alone, I’m thankful.

Appreciate the conversation.
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#123 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:04 am

Merit wrote:
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Do you need a music degree to be a musician? An arts degree to be an artist? A business degree to be an entrepreneur or run a business? A computer science degree to code? An English literature degree to write a novel? An economics degree to win at trading?

Stop the nonsense. If anything, her will to learn finance and have enough credibility to make a living from that shows her ancillary skills. Not saying that she’s the most qualified in terms of degrees. She’s not. But you don’t know the criteria for the position, nor the work she does behind closed doors.


She is unqualified as finance minister, like you said. That's all is being argued.


I didn’t say that, but I can see how your lens may have thought I did. For clarity, her degrees aren’t the traditional degrees expected in her position. She’s still deserving of the role.


I think you're arguing with people who might not actually know what a minister does, but you're right here. Under Stephen Harper the finance minister was Jim Flaherty, who was an ambulance chasing lawyer with no business background. It might be beneficial to have a tailored education in a ministerial position when managing a press conference, otherwise it's unnecessary.
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#124 » by torsport » Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:26 pm

I don't even know what this thread is about anymore. Not basketball, and definitely not about the OP.

No one is changing anyone's mind on a RealGM discussion board about DEI, heck we can't collectively agree on tanking vs. not.
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#125 » by Pointgod » Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:15 pm

In this thread is a bunch of clueless people disparaging DEI that dont even understand what they’re talking about…..
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#126 » by Westside Gunn » Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:35 pm

Here is the DEI hire's announcement on 30 year mortgages:

Read on Twitter


The historian left out the important part where 30 year mortgage means more interest paid.

Not to mention this will only add fuel to the fire.
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#127 » by Clay Davis » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:23 am

Westside Gunn wrote:Here is the DEI hire's announcement on 30 year mortgages:

Read on Twitter


The historian left out the important part where 30 year mortgage means more interest paid.

Not to mention this will only add fuel to the fire.


She didn't get the gig as a DEI hire... that's not the rizz she carries. She got it because she's good at politicking and getting into the right circles.

I think her biggest L recently (and there's many of them lol) has been her using the lowering of interest rates as evidence of their economic plan working...

Let's see what the Bank of Canada has to say!

"GDP is on track to expand by 1½% in the second quarter of 2024 (Chart 4). With Canada’s population growing at about 3%, this implies GDP per person is expected to contract by about 1½%, similar to its pace in the first quarter of the year."

"The unemployment rates for newcomers and youth have risen to 11.6% and 13.5%, respectively, from lows of 6.9% and 9.3% in 2022. Given the greater challenges in finding work, the participation rate for youth has fallen. In contrast, the increase in the unemployment rate for prime-age workers has been more muted, rising from 3.9% to 5.3% over the same period. Overall, the labour market has moved into excess supply"

"Strong population growth in recent years has boosted demand for housing."

"With the economy already in excess supply, additional weakness would put more downward pressure on inflation."


https://static.bankofcanada.ca/uploads/pdf/mpr-2024-07-24.pdf


On another note, I don't think that DEI hiring is necessarily a bad taste... especially for political appointments, where you want the decision-makers to represent the social fabric of the country they're making decisions for.
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Re: Giants of Africa - Managing Director 

Post#128 » by Clay Davis » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:25 am

Westside Gunn wrote:If you want to learn finance you can do an internship, co op or unpaid work to learn how things work and secure yourself a career for the long term if you end up liking it.

If you look at the history of our finance ministers, never once we've had a russian historian or slavic history specialist run the country's finances. Never in the US.

Only the nutty dei cult can make it happen because you possess the right genitalia. Then you can spend additional money on consultants to shield the dei hire from their own incompetence. See the current relationship between the current government and McKinsey. McKinsey gets paid 100m to run their own failing experiment on the country.

Can Freeland run jp morgan or scotiabank? Never in a million years. But a drama teacher made it possible for that to run the country's finances.


Was it the Slavic History specialist who invited a Nazi to the House of Commons then said that Putin's rizz is what was behind the blowback they received for it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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