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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#61 » by Merit » Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:01 am

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HumbleRen wrote:lol at people saying they want that lakers first.

BB trade value is completely shot, the FO underestimated how much the 2nd apron stuff would impact the market.


Did they? Pretty sure they got two seconds and almost 7 mil of cap space for mcDaniels.


What does that have to do with BB ?


It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#62 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:28 am

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Did they? Pretty sure they got two seconds and almost 7 mil of cap space for mcDaniels.


What does that have to do with BB ?


It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.


This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#63 » by SpezNc » Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:44 am

HumbleRen wrote:
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HumbleRen wrote:
What does that have to do with BB ?


It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.


This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.


Siakam is a lower end max player somewhat under appreciated in the NBA.

The return was not good but the reality is that there was not a lot of interest in Siakam .

Especially since he said he would not sign with the team that acquired him

Basically he chose Indiana. Indiana chose the price .

Not much else to say .
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#64 » by agkagk » Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:48 am

Brown russell lbj ad jakub

Thats a top ten team or better.

This is just an example.

Lakers should be going all in on veteran role players.

These gms just dont want to look bad.

If i was the lakers, id be hand picking my kcp/caruso/jakub/kelly olynyk — whoever and overpaying by whatever realistic means necessary.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#65 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:51 am

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It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.


This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.


Siakam is a lower end max player somewhat under appreciated in the NBA.

The return was not good but the reality is that there was not a lot of interest in Siakam .

Especially since he said he would not sign with the team that acquired him

Basically he chose Indiana. Indiana chose the price .

Not much else to say .


He got leverage because we let it happen that way. Either way, that’s not the point.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#66 » by mihaic » Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:53 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.


Siakam is a lower end max player somewhat under appreciated in the NBA.

The return was not good but the reality is that there was not a lot of interest in Siakam .

Especially since he said he would not sign with the team that acquired him

Basically he chose Indiana. Indiana chose the price .

Not much else to say .


He got leverage because we let it happen that way. Either way, that’s not the point.

To really create leverage we needed to sign Pascal to an extension - I don’t think he wanted it, except for the max or supermax, which would'vebeen worse. I could be wrong here?

We could have traded him in the summer to Atlanta for a worse return based on the rumours. Perhaps I missed some rumours about this?

We could've traded him at the deadline instead of trading for Poeltl. I may misremember, but I think the return was only 2 picks, 3 were offered only for OG. So that's a worse return too , did I forget anything?

So realistically, to get a better return, (unless I forgot or missed something) they would have had to trade Pascal and blow up the team right after our last playoff series against Philly. I don’t think that was going to happen, the team was doing good at the time. I don't see MLSE approving such a move, it doesn't sound like a Raptors thing to do. You think MLSE would've approved?
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#67 » by deeps6x » Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:18 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Toronto trades Brown and Boucher to the Lakers
Lakers trade Russell to the Magic and Rui to the Raptors
Magic trade Carter and Houston to the Raptors


lakers are over the 2nd apron so they can't combine salaries. they can only send out 1 player at a time.



Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is false. Lebron took a 3 mill paycut to keep them under second apron....


I thought LeBron took the pay cut so that the team would offer his span the max amount allowed.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#68 » by deeps6x » Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:22 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Merit wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
What does that have to do with BB ?


It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.


This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.


If BB expires as a Raptor next season, Masai should personally refund the team the $23 million. Then get demoted to head of the draft team. DraftMaster. Or just fire him. He did pick Jo'Kobe #19 when Homes was still available.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#69 » by Scase » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:09 pm

Merit wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:lol at people saying they want that lakers first.

BB trade value is completely shot, the FO underestimated how much the 2nd apron stuff would impact the market.


Did they? Pretty sure they got two seconds and almost 7 mil of cap space for mcDaniels.

Completely different situations, Mcdaniels was salary that was needed to make a trade that allowed the raps to use the TPE to give the Kings immediate cap relief. Basically we take on salary and get compensated for it.

BB is expected to be a player that actually contributes, he also costs 23mil vs 4mil.

The value of the trades have absolutely nothing in common.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#70 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:14 pm

deeps6x wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Merit wrote:
It has to do with the second apron. As if you needed my clarification for that one. Plus, there’s a whole offseason yet to happen, never mind a season and a trade deadline.


This is what we said with Siakam and we got fleeced for that.

People overestimate the value of an expiring contract. These teams do not want to hit the 2nd apron for the likes of Bruce Brown.

We either get peanuts for him or just simply let him expire.


If BB expires as a Raptor next season, Masai should personally refund the team the $23 million. Then get demoted to head of the draft team. DraftMaster. Or just fire him. He did pick Jo'Kobe #19 when Homes was still available.


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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#71 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:19 pm

Imo Brown's value is a second round pick or two at most and a contract. He would be gone by now if he had any value. His value didn't increase suddenly.
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#72 » by Scase » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:31 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Imo Brown's value is a second round pick or two at most and a contract. He would be gone by now if he had any value. His value didn't increase suddenly.

Nah you dont get it man, the longer you hold onto an asset, the more its value increases. No such thing as timing anything. Diamond hands, apes strong etc. etc.
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Post#73 » by WiggOuts » Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:29 am

Everyone clearly wants Bruce gone, myself included. But uts definitely worth noting that he showed up to summer league to cheer on some rookies that hell probably never play with. Thats a pretty classy move imo. Especially considering we had a guy in the same situation last year that was way more invested and didn't bother to show up
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Post#74 » by Spida888 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:23 am

Seeing how many role players are getting vet minimum like salaries, Brown should be elated we picked up his option at 23M.
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Post#75 » by C_Money » Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:48 am

Spida888 wrote:Seeing how many role players are getting vet minimum like salaries, Brown should be elated we picked up his option at 23M.


Yeah, that’s a pretty insane contract for what he provides. Thanks to Jokic I guess.
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Post#76 » by HangTime » Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:57 am

Raptors get:
D'Anglo Russell
Cam Reddish
Maxwell Lewis

2nd Round pick

Lakers get:
Matt Ryan
Bruce Brown

Pelicans get
Jaxson Hayes
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Re: Lakers interested in Brown 

Post#77 » by metafisical » Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:24 am

WiggOuts wrote:Everyone clearly wants Bruce gone, myself included. But uts definitely worth noting that he showed up to summer league to cheer on some rookies that hell probably never play with. Thats a pretty classy move imo. Especially considering we had a guy in the same situation last year that was way more invested and didn't bother to show up


I don't think people have a problem with Bruce Brown the person, the player, and the classy summer league cheerleader. Instead, we have a problem with Bruce Brown the contract.
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Post#78 » by Psubs » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:22 pm

HangTime wrote:Raptors get:
D'Anglo Russell
Cam Reddish
Maxwell Lewis

2nd Round pick

Lakers get:
Matt Ryan
Bruce Brown

Pelicans get
Jaxson Hayes


I guess that's aight. Then flip Russell at the deadline for more 2nd rounders? Maybe a contending team needs guard help?
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Post#79 » by Psubs » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:25 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Imo Brown's value is a second round pick or two at most and a contract. He would be gone by now if he had any value. His value didn't increase suddenly.


Say even a mid 2025 2nd round pick would be worth a late 2024 1st pick. :nod:

I feel that might've been the reason to hold onto him last season and pick up his option and try again.
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Post#80 » by JB7 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:27 pm

Brown for Wiggins. Just waiting for it to happen. GSW needs to move Wiggins deal if they are going to sign Kuminga or Lauri (if they trade for him) to extensions starting the following season. Brown helps them this year, and then is an expiring salary, same as CP3 this past season.

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