Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[LeonJordanJr24]

The floor spacing is incredible tho...

[76ciology]

Speaking of Jimmy, he's an excellent player for both Maxey and Paul George to learn from. Butler was a good fit for Jojo because he often plays at 50% effort when there's no pressure, conserving his energy for crucial moments. This contrasts with Embiid, who likes to be aggressive early to get his defenders into foul trouble, often leaving him exhausted down the stretch.

I guess so. ... Currently the formula should be role players that can hang and the big 3 close the rest. Embiid,George and Maxey is lethal offense so that should blow Jimmy's conservative til 4th quarter approach out the window.

I also feel there are numerous ways to exploit Jojo on offense during crunch time. You can live with his shooting which come and goes in the playoffs or allow him to do his thing and potentially turn the ball over. Guards and wings seem more reliable down the stretch. I'm not suggesting Embiid should be a non-factor, but perhaps he could take a backseat in more of these situations.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Speaking of Jimmy, he's an excellent player for both Maxey and Paul George to learn from. Butler was a good fit for Jojo because he often plays at 50% effort when there's no pressure, conserving his energy for crucial moments. This contrasts with Embiid, who likes to be aggressive early to get his defenders into foul trouble, often leaving him exhausted down the stretch.

I guess so. ... Currently the formula should be role players that can hang and the big 3 close the rest. Embiid,George and Maxey is lethal offense so that should blow Jimmy's conservative til 4th quarter approach out the window.

I also feel there are numerous ways to exploit Jojo on offense during crunch time. You can live with his shooting which come and goes in the playoffs or allow him to do his thing and potentially turn the ball over. Guards and wings seem more reliable down the stretch. I'm not suggesting Embiid should be a non-factor, but perhaps he could take a backseat in more of these situations.

I think that's why we went out and signed Paul George. Between him and Maxey we now have two guys capable of handling those situations for us.

[jstross]

We really have had limited options in the past. I just love adding a volume 3 shooter at over 40% who is still a decent defender. Not as explosive as he was, but he can still get to the hoop when necessary. Perfect 3rd option with Embiid and Maxey.

I guess so. ... Currently the formula should be role players that can hang and the big 3 close the rest. Embiid,George and Maxey is lethal offense so that should blow Jimmy's conservative til 4th quarter approach out the window.

I also feel there are numerous ways to exploit Jojo on offense during crunch time. You can live with his shooting which come and goes in the playoffs or allow him to do his thing and potentially turn the ball over. Guards and wings seem more reliable down the stretch. I'm not suggesting Embiid should be a non-factor, but perhaps he could take a backseat in more of these situations.

I think that's why we went out and signed Paul George. Between him and Maxey we now have two guys capable of handling those situations for us.

[LeonJordanJr24]

1. Gordan Hayward as a 4/3 would be interesting he opens up a whole new weapon for us. He is super versatile and doesn't need the ball. I see a high end role player for us if we can get him .

2. Morris Sr is perfect 4 for our team right now. Maybe a starter.

3. Crowder nice fit too and still has a lil 3 and D left.

4. Bertans is tall and can shoot really spaces the floor and launches in a role for us.

5. Covington is cooked lol I like that young dude for Toronto and Indiana who's 6'8 forgot his name .

[the_process]

Davis bertans should be a 76er rn.

The only thing Bertans can do is shoot. While that has a role, I think rebounding and secondary rim protection should be their focus.

[the_process]

What about KJ and a 1st for Jarace Walker?

[TYO23]

1. Gordan Hayward as a 4/3 would be interesting he opens up a whole new weapon for us. He is super versatile and doesn't need the ball. I see a high end role player for us if we can get him .

2. Morris Sr is perfect 4 for our team right now. Maybe a starter.

3. Crowder nice fit too and still has a lil 3 and D left.

4. Bertans is tall and can shoot really spaces the floor and launches in a role for us.

5. Covington is cooked lol I like that young dude for Toronto and Indiana who's 6'8 forgot his name .

Out of this list give me Crowder honestly. Hayward is intriguing but I don’t know how much he has left. OKC pretty much quit playing him.

[Foshan]

Anyone have stats on how JT Thor did in the rest of his pre-Olympic games? I like the idea of going for a young guy for the spot. Add some legs potentially to our old/slow bigs

[zaz102]

I made a list of post-January 15 trade candidates that I think are realistic.

I picked decent (potentially PO rotation worthy) forwards and wings that are less than $12M (K. Martin + McCain). I imagine they won't be trading for a guard or big, but obviously things can change. Also, I tried to take in account the players that the teams might be willing to trade to the Sixers based on the draft picks they have, how important the player is to the team, and if they are a direct competitor.

Interested to hear who people would be hoping for from this list.

Tari Eason
Simone Fontecchio
Saddiq Bey
Derrick Jones Jr.
Jalen Smith
Jarred Vanderbuilt
Santi Aldama
Nicolas Batum
Kevin Love
Kyle Anderson
Chris Boucher
Trey Lyles
Maxi Kleber
Larry Nance Jr.
Naji Marshall
Corey Kispert
Cody Martin
Royce O'Neal
Matisse Thybulle

Eason would probably be my top target. If he's not available and Clips flame out, it would be awesome having Batum back.

[ProcessDoctor]

What about KJ and a 1st for Jarace Walker?

Yea if you can get that you pull the trigger. He facilitates, rebounds, creates turnovers, and defends. Might have to part with a 1st plus other sweetener(s) for Indy to trade him though.

[Ben]

Anyone have stats on how JT Thor did in the rest of his pre-Olympic games? I like the idea of going for a young guy for the spot. Add some legs potentially to our old/slow bigs

It always sounds intriguing when his name gets brought up because he's young and has great standing reach and wingspan. And presumably within 3-5 years he'll put on weight and be more formidable. But his NBA stats have been SO sub-par. Per-minute stats, advanced stats, shooting percentages... all subpar. Hitting that 3 pointer against Team USA shouldn't get him an NBA contract on its own. He's hit 32% of his 3s during his two thousand NBA minutes, and the fact that he's also averaged 64% from the FT line doesn't inspire confidence that he'll become a far better 3-point shooter.

In short, I'd be very interested to stash him for his prospects 3-5 years from now, but that's not the way the NBA works these days and Thor's short-term prospects don't seem to fit the Sixers' short title window. Just IMO.

[FireMorey]

The Suns apparently are going to waive EJ Liddell. The Sixers have been pretty quiet on adding a forward. Maybe they are just waiting on Marcus Morris, but I wonder if EJ Liddell is a guy they've been waiting for to hit the market. They were rumored to be interested in him back during that draft and he's young. Granted, he hasn't done very much in the NBA.

Any interest in EJ Liddell?

He'd be eligible for a 2 way contract, but the Sixers already used both of theirs. Unless they can just terminate one of them, not sure how those work.

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[PhillyNj]

Jalen Smith is the best player on that list.

[cej11]

Just finished listening to Morey's interview with Spike and Mike and he mentioned that he's looking at a couple of free agents that know one has really talked about?
I guess he's ruling out adding Morris or Hayward because everyone is talking about those two. Could it be Bertans as the guy he's looking at?

[cej11]

Just finished listening to Morey's interview with Spike and Mike and he mentioned that he's looking at a couple of free agents that know one has really talked about?
I guess he's ruling out adding Morris or Hayward because everyone is talking about those two. Could it be Bertans as the guy he's looking at?

He also mentioned of adding another two way player that should be announced in the next few days?

[FireMorey]

Hmmm that 2 way could be EJ Liddell since he hasn't been officially waived yet. I'm hoping anyway, I liked him in college and still have hopes he can amount to something.

[Ben]

I made a list of post-January 15 trade candidates that I think are realistic.

I picked decent (potentially PO rotation worthy) forwards and wings that are less than $12M (K. Martin + McCain). I imagine they won't be trading for a guard or big, but obviously things can change. Also, I tried to take in account the players that the teams might be willing to trade to the Sixers based on the draft picks they have, how important the player is to the team, and if they are a direct competitor.

Interested to hear who people would be hoping for from this list.

Tari Eason
Simone Fontecchio
Saddiq Bey
Derrick Jones Jr.
Jalen Smith
Jarred Vanderbuilt
Santi Aldama
Nicolas Batum
Kevin Love
Kyle Anderson
Chris Boucher
Trey Lyles
Maxi Kleber
Larry Nance Jr.
Naji Marshall
Corey Kispert
Cody Martin
Royce O'Neal
Matisse Thybulle

Eason would probably be my top target. If he's not available and Clips flame out, it would be awesome having Batum back.

Thanks for compiling this. Nicely done.

Tari Eason is way at the top, no doubt.
On one hand, if Houston is smart they can afford to wait for all of their young guys to develop (and/or come back from injuries) to see which ones are the for-sure keepers and which ones are trade fodder.

On the other hand, Houston probably will want to trade for a superduperstar at some point, when their youngsters are ready to contend alongside the big star, and while Van Vleet's otherwise inexplicable max contract could anchor such a trade, they'll likely need lots of draft picks to make it happen as well. (Otherwise they just trade multiple young contracts and thus sap the reason why they want to trade for a superduperstar in the first place.)

So maybe, possibly, they could be persuaded to take multiple firsts plus KJ for Eason. They would then be better stocked for their eventual consolidation, and the Sixers would have the missing starter for a short-term title push and even a longer term rebuild alongside Maxey.

The funny thing is that in terms of performance, Jabari Smith Jr seems like the PF who ought to be on the Rockets' trading block, but he's a former Top-3 pick and teams don't often give up on those guys before their first contracts are up unless they're totally flaming out.

My other comments are not directed at you, and certainly aren't a criticism, b/c I appreciate that you're just compiling a list. I'm just comment on the guys, a number of whom are really wings trying to play PF if it can give them more of a shot.

Among the ones in whom I'd have a strong interest, if they could be had for a reasonable price:
Boucher (has size, experience, rebounds well and spreads the floor) -- very interested in him.
Nance Jr.
Jalen Smith (caveat: the Bulls need a bigger PF if Smith shows that he can play well there, rather than just at C, the Bulls should just keep him and probably will-- and if he can't play at the 4 then the Sixers don't need him).

I like Fontecchio, too, but I consider him more of a SF (in the sense of being able to guard bigger PFs). Doesn't rebound very well or protect the rim. But I'd be interested if the price were right.

I'd love to have Corey Kispert but he too seems more like a small forward, has a very short standing reach (by NBA standards0 and a 6'7" wingspan, and he has rebounded like a wing. So bring him on if he's affordable, although I don't really see why he would be, but he won't solve or patch the Sixers' gap at the 4.

Mmmayybe Naji Marshall, but I still think that he's in that small forward category-- has small forward physical measurements-- and I don't trust his 1 year of good 3P shooting (31% career average).

Tari Eason, Chris Boucher, Larry Nance Jr, Jalen Smith... those seem like names to keep in mind.

[Ben]

The Suns apparently are going to waive EJ Liddell. The Sixers have been pretty quiet on adding a forward. Maybe they are just waiting on Marcus Morris, but I wonder if EJ Liddell is a guy they've been waiting for to hit the market. They were rumored to be interested in him back during that draft and he's young. Granted, he hasn't done very much in the NBA.

Any interest in EJ Liddell?

He'd be eligible for a 2 way contract, but the Sixers already used both of theirs. Unless they can just terminate one of them, not sure how those work.

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I'll admit that I didn't watch Liddell at all last year. So I'm making this comment just based on his measurements. But he's not that big. 6'5 1/2" in bare feet, 8' 7 1/2" standing reach, although an almost 7' wingspan... but there are wings who have that. It's good that he's fairly burly. I don't trust summer league performances; can he really stand up to bigger NBA power forwards? (I have no answer for that.)

I'd be fine with getting him on a cheap deal to start the season, though. Still hope for an impact PF at the deadline.

[jstross]

This sheds some light. Looks like $75K guaranteed if waived before a january 7 deadline. Half the rookie minimum if after.
https://www.themirror.com/sport/basketball/nba-two-way-contracts-explained-350263

The Suns apparently are going to waive EJ Liddell. The Sixers have been pretty quiet on adding a forward. Maybe they are just waiting on Marcus Morris, but I wonder if EJ Liddell is a guy they've been waiting for to hit the market. They were rumored to be interested in him back during that draft and he's young. Granted, he hasn't done very much in the NBA.

Any interest in EJ Liddell?

He'd be eligible for a 2 way contract, but the Sixers already used both of theirs. Unless they can just terminate one of them, not sure how those work.

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