Randle's Future

[cgmw]

^^We have a pretty interesting small-ball lineup with Jalen at the 1, Josh at the 2, Mikal at the 3, OG at the 4 and Julius at the 5. I would think the defense is strong enough to cover some of Julius' weaknesses, while having great spacing and good rebounding.

It's something we would never get to look at if we resigned Ihart.

All well and good, but Thibs.

Must have maximum rim protection at all costs even if it means Sims over Hart.

[KnixtapeH20]

Just resign him now and not play games.

That's exactly what we did the first time

[Jalen Bluntson]

Just resign him now and not play games.

That's exactly what we did the first time

Then he became a multiple time all star All NBA player. As much a I hated the move at the time and wanted him gone, he became a solid player. He was balling when he got injured. I don't see any other option because we will not be under the cap any time soon and any trade would have to be for an all star level player at the very least.

[j4remi]

I'd wait to make sure everything works, but I'm optimistic that Randle can be the permanent second-option next to Brunson. His All-NBA play speaks for itself, and I don't think the Knicks push all-in for Mikal unless they expect the second option to already be on the roster...plus Mikal and OG on the wings are sorta perfect for Randle, who spent the past three seasons perfecting his kick-outs to the corners.

[R-DAWG]

In order for this Knicks team to hit their full potential, Mikal Bridges needs to be a #3 option - and he is one of the best #3 options in the league, and OG needs to be in the 3 and D roll/not a top 3 shot creator - a role at which he is one of the best. Additionally, the team needs a secondary shot creator to take pressure off Brunson - especially in the regular season. This team only has one option to fill that role right now and for the foreseeable future - and that is Julius Randle.

At worst, Randle is a middle of the rotation innings eater who can carry you through the regular season, but a guy who good teams can take out of playoff series. While that won't be good enough for the Knicks to win a championship or get to the finals, if you take regular season Randle off the roster the Knicks aren't in the conversation for top seed in the east. Randle knows this and will be getting paid because the Knicks can't afford to lose him.

I hated what the Knicks did this season because they locked themselves into this team, which I don't think is good enough. Given where they are with their cap sheet and future assets, they need Randle. Without Randle there isn't enough shot creation and there isn't a guy who can take the load of Brunson. Bridges will go from being an elite #3 to a sub par #2.

[Moose]

In order for this Knicks team to hit their full potential, Mikal Bridges needs to be a #3 option - and he is one of the best #3 options in the league, and OG needs to be in the 3 and D roll/not a top 3 shot creator - a role at which he is one of the best. Additionally, the team needs a secondary shot creator to take pressure off Brunson - especially in the regular season. This team only has one option to fill that role right now and for the foreseeable future - and that is Julius Randle.

At worst, Randle is a middle of the rotation innings eater who can carry you through the regular season, but a guy who good teams can take out of playoff series. While that won't be good enough for the Knicks to win a championship or get to the finals, if you take regular season Randle off the roster the Knicks aren't in the conversation for top seed in the east. Randle knows this and will be getting paid because the Knicks can't afford to lose him.

I hated what the Knicks did this season because they locked themselves into this team, which I don't think is good enough. Given where they are with their cap sheet and future assets, they need Randle. Without Randle there isn't enough shot creation and there isn't a guy who can take the load of Brunson. Bridges will go from being an elite #3 to a sub par #2.

With the first and second apron on the verge of being hit with extensions, it was the right decision to add Bridges now once he was available.

If iHart came back, the only real question the team would have is health, but that seems to be a theme for many teams.

We are all down because of iHart, but if the Knicks can get a legit center, like Kessler for Sims and picks, this is still a team that has a legit chance to win a title within 1-5 years.

I'll take it.

[3toheadmelo]

Just resign him now and not play games.

That's exactly what we did the first time

And it’s worked out great so far. Took a pay cut for the team and now we have a damn good squad

[R-DAWG]

In order for this Knicks team to hit their full potential, Mikal Bridges needs to be a #3 option - and he is one of the best #3 options in the league, and OG needs to be in the 3 and D roll/not a top 3 shot creator - a role at which he is one of the best. Additionally, the team needs a secondary shot creator to take pressure off Brunson - especially in the regular season. This team only has one option to fill that role right now and for the foreseeable future - and that is Julius Randle.

At worst, Randle is a middle of the rotation innings eater who can carry you through the regular season, but a guy who good teams can take out of playoff series. While that won't be good enough for the Knicks to win a championship or get to the finals, if you take regular season Randle off the roster the Knicks aren't in the conversation for top seed in the east. Randle knows this and will be getting paid because the Knicks can't afford to lose him.

I hated what the Knicks did this season because they locked themselves into this team, which I don't think is good enough. Given where they are with their cap sheet and future assets, they need Randle. Without Randle there isn't enough shot creation and there isn't a guy who can take the load of Brunson. Bridges will go from being an elite #3 to a sub par #2.

With the first and second apron on the verge of being hit with extensions, it was the right decision to add Bridges now once he was available.

If iHart came back, the only real question the team would have is health, but that seems to be a theme for many teams.

We are all down because of iHart, but if the Knicks can get a legit center, like Kessler for Sims and picks, this is still a team that has a legit chance to win a title within 1-5 years.

I'll take it.

The last sentence is why I was so against the Bridges trade. The Knicks don't have the picks to go out and get a player like Walker Kessler. Danny Ainge isn't trading Kessler for 2 heavily protected picks. He can get better offers elsewhere.

Again - the Bridges trade locked this team in. There are no more moves. And this team isn't good enough to win a championship - which means you shouldn't be signing up to be a 2nd apron team. Which speaks to a bigger issue of building an old CBA style team with expensive (and yes, high end) role players and not drafting and developing young, cost controlled, upside pieces to mix into the rotation.

And I understand the counter argument of the league being open and in transition now, having Brunson, so go all in while you can and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I just don't agree with the decision.

[Moose]

In order for this Knicks team to hit their full potential, Mikal Bridges needs to be a #3 option - and he is one of the best #3 options in the league, and OG needs to be in the 3 and D roll/not a top 3 shot creator - a role at which he is one of the best. Additionally, the team needs a secondary shot creator to take pressure off Brunson - especially in the regular season. This team only has one option to fill that role right now and for the foreseeable future - and that is Julius Randle.

At worst, Randle is a middle of the rotation innings eater who can carry you through the regular season, but a guy who good teams can take out of playoff series. While that won't be good enough for the Knicks to win a championship or get to the finals, if you take regular season Randle off the roster the Knicks aren't in the conversation for top seed in the east. Randle knows this and will be getting paid because the Knicks can't afford to lose him.

I hated what the Knicks did this season because they locked themselves into this team, which I don't think is good enough. Given where they are with their cap sheet and future assets, they need Randle. Without Randle there isn't enough shot creation and there isn't a guy who can take the load of Brunson. Bridges will go from being an elite #3 to a sub par #2.

With the first and second apron on the verge of being hit with extensions, it was the right decision to add Bridges now once he was available.

If iHart came back, the only real question the team would have is health, but that seems to be a theme for many teams.

We are all down because of iHart, but if the Knicks can get a legit center, like Kessler for Sims and picks, this is still a team that has a legit chance to win a title within 1-5 years.

I'll take it.

The last sentence is why I was so against the Bridges trade. The Knicks don't have the picks to go out and get a player like Walker Kessler. Danny Ainge isn't trading Kessler for 2 heavily protected picks. He can get better offers elsewhere.

Again - the Bridges trade locked this team in. There are no more moves. And this team isn't good enough to win a championship - which means you shouldn't be signing up to be a 2nd apron team. Which speaks to a bigger issue of building an old CBA style team with expensive (and yes, high end) role players and not drafting and developing young, cost controlled, upside pieces to mix into the rotation.

And I understand the counter argument of the league being open and in transition now, having Brunson, so go all in while you can and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I just don't agree with the decision.

Fair, even if I don't fully agree. I think the Detroit pick has some value. We also have second round picks and McBride, who we don't want to trade, but can. Either for picks or directly for a player.

And if we were able to re-sign iHart, I feel this wouldn't even be a discussion. Our team wouldn't have any obvious weaknesses outside of "will we stay healthy?/will everyone return to their usual selves (Mitch, randle, etc)?"

All things considered, I'm happy with where the team is at.

It's certainly a contender to make the Finals if healthy.

[kNicksGmen]

yea we still have the 2 protected firsts, a bunch of seconds and if it comes down to it deuce. with a possibility of moving mitch/randle also. "locked into this team" is only true if you're saying locked into the current group and wanting to add to it without giving anything up. doubt we would do it but Divo is a very valuable piece in a trade. hart also to an extent. not sure how things will go if we're in an apron situation or unable to aggregate salary in a trade - could complicate things.

[R-DAWG]

With the first and second apron on the verge of being hit with extensions, it was the right decision to add Bridges now once he was available.

If iHart came back, the only real question the team would have is health, but that seems to be a theme for many teams.

We are all down because of iHart, but if the Knicks can get a legit center, like Kessler for Sims and picks, this is still a team that has a legit chance to win a title within 1-5 years.

I'll take it.

The last sentence is why I was so against the Bridges trade. The Knicks don't have the picks to go out and get a player like Walker Kessler. Danny Ainge isn't trading Kessler for 2 heavily protected picks. He can get better offers elsewhere.

Again - the Bridges trade locked this team in. There are no more moves. And this team isn't good enough to win a championship - which means you shouldn't be signing up to be a 2nd apron team. Which speaks to a bigger issue of building an old CBA style team with expensive (and yes, high end) role players and not drafting and developing young, cost controlled, upside pieces to mix into the rotation.

And I understand the counter argument of the league being open and in transition now, having Brunson, so go all in while you can and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I just don't agree with the decision.

Fair, even if I don't fully agree. I think the Detroit pick has some value. We also have second round picks and McBride, who we don't want to trade, but can. Either for picks or directly for a player.

And if we were able to re-sign iHart, I feel this wouldn't even be a discussion. Our team wouldn't have any obvious weaknesses outside of "will we stay healthy?/will everyone return to their usual selves (Mitch, randle, etc)?"

All things considered, I'm happy with where the team is at.

It's certainly a contender to make the Finals if healthy.

We weren't able to sign I-Hart, and now we have an obvious weakness.

I think the lack of a second ballhandler/shot creator is a weakness that won't really matter until deep into the playoffs.

On the Detroit pick - I think it has a 60% chance of conveying, but that doesn't mean it has a ton of trade value.

[Moose]

The last sentence is why I was so against the Bridges trade. The Knicks don't have the picks to go out and get a player like Walker Kessler. Danny Ainge isn't trading Kessler for 2 heavily protected picks. He can get better offers elsewhere.

Again - the Bridges trade locked this team in. There are no more moves. And this team isn't good enough to win a championship - which means you shouldn't be signing up to be a 2nd apron team. Which speaks to a bigger issue of building an old CBA style team with expensive (and yes, high end) role players and not drafting and developing young, cost controlled, upside pieces to mix into the rotation.

And I understand the counter argument of the league being open and in transition now, having Brunson, so go all in while you can and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. I just don't agree with the decision.

Fair, even if I don't fully agree. I think the Detroit pick has some value. We also have second round picks and McBride, who we don't want to trade, but can. Either for picks or directly for a player.

And if we were able to re-sign iHart, I feel this wouldn't even be a discussion. Our team wouldn't have any obvious weaknesses outside of "will we stay healthy?/will everyone return to their usual selves (Mitch, randle, etc)?"

All things considered, I'm happy with where the team is at.

It's certainly a contender to make the Finals if healthy.

We weren't able to sign I-Hart, and now we have an obvious weakness.

I think the lack of a second ballhandler/shot creator is a weakness that won't really matter until deep into the playoffs.

On the Detroit pick - I think it has a 60% chance of conveying, but that doesn't mean it has a ton of trade value.

I would argue that Randle and Bridges can get their own shot.

And I think you could find flaws with just about every team. There might be 2-3 where you could call them a complete team.

Even Porzingis on the championship Celtics is out until December or so. Will he be the same when he returns?

If the Knicks didn't make the move for Bridges, what else is out there for them? Especially getting to the apron due to the extensions needed for Brunson and likely Randle, plus the OG contract.

The Thunder and Jazz also have a ton of picks to trade for a star. Plus the star has to become available and be the right fit.

I think they did the right thing going for Bridges.

It's just unfortunate that the Thunder offered iHart 30 mill per.

We'll see if the Knicks can find quality bigs via trade or a little luck.

[Iron Mantis]

We're waiting....

[BKlutch]

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Easy to see how KD can shoot 3's at a high level when surrounded by All-NBA players. He never was and never will be a leader. Flatso Irving will always be that talented guy who coulda been a contenda, "If I only had a brain."

[Clyde_Style]

I'll have to defer to Rob in this instance.

Whatever he says goes. Not sure where they stand on this, but I'm sure it's the right call

[BowlRips]

They should def not look to resign him now.
His salary slot is the last piece of flexibility they have.
Why not wait to see if - as Lebron would say - "fits in or fits out"
Regardless, they are in a pretty comfortable position.
The Rockets are the only cap space team that could make sense for him. (and I'm skeptical)
A sign and trade or a opt-in and trade are both fairly complex cause of the new CBA.
And again - the Knicks can offer him the most money if he balls out this season.

So, wait. See how it all plays out.

[NoStatsGuy]

glad to see the poll results. i already thought i need to go on an epic rant about how randle is bltantly mistreated. seems like most knicks fans come to their senses

[Iron Mantis]

I just hope he doesn't come in trying to do too much, playing for his next contract....

Especially if he is trying to prove that he is max-worthy.

Wish he was willing to accept a team friendly deal so they can just extend him now

[spree2kawhi]

For the record, I selected extend now - I wonder how he looks at it though.

[aggo]

randle may not want to be here